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This is the Anti Vault back protection Kaneki and Wesker have this cause Survivors can slide into there hitbox while they are scampering to immediately vault back before the Killer can hit them so they added this damage state to prevent survivors from doing that.

However this never really happens on Weskers because his scamper is pretty slow and sure can just make distance while he's doing that.

Ghouls however is a major problem since he can keep you in place and Scamper 2x faster then Wesker not only that but also apply a 50% hinder debuff on the survivor and if the ping is bad your just always going to get hit by this move. This needs to be fixed.

Still curious what you meant by that comment regarding last year. You weren't even on the Forums, nor do I recall the specific incident you are talking about. I'd appreciate some insight.

Likewise, I'd love to get you in a game sometime. I'm sure we're in different time zones, but it'd be fun to see how effective it really is.

As an aside, you kinda talk like how I remember @Prometheus1092 talking. I just think it's kind of funny how there's so many different people who all talk differently, but we end up getting some rare cases where it matches up lol.

I bring gen perks and a toolbox. It's not uncommon for me to touch all 5 gens that get done. I usually do one or two just by myself. So you'd be wrong there. But I also trade, heal, take protection hits, bodyblock, give free downs to stop tunneling, and participate in end game saves.

I love how you call them my rules all while simultaneously having multiple people expressing the same view to you in this very thread as though I cannot read.

Someone thanked you once. Amazing. Now tell me how many people have said less pleasant things as well. But this very specific scenario is different than the majority of what you say. I bring hatch offerings to my matches and we will also leave if someone is near shack and unreachable. That's completely different then just running out without a thought for the rest of your team, which is exactly what you did in the one and only match you've shared.

How the killer got to that 3k matters. If you had zero hooks all match but it ended at one gen up that could have been a team win.

Again, I have to tell you that you are arguing against your own best interests here too. Avoiding tunnelers and getting hatch only works because 3/4 players are affected by it.

Hopefully this gets fixed, coz it happens when against Wesker too.

I mean Devs tried when we said Camping, Tunneling and slugging and when they tried to push changes for those it all got scrapped.

Can't really fault the devs on this one when the killer side and content creators all threaten to quit whenever survivor receives help

PPL that I play with only DC when the killer is tunneling, proxi camping, all for that precious mori. When a new killer is released that is all we get because that is all they want to do. Not worth playing it isnt even a match. For us we do not DC because things do not go our way it is because they do and the killer cant handle it so they slug and or tunnel. Which we can take chase but when you are the only one not being slugged it doesnt last forever. No one wants to lay on the ground forever while three ppl are on hook, not being able to take their chances to get off hook , because ya know why would we be able to, going next. There will never be a game balance they change things way too much and do not include all the changes in the patch notes. Like why do surv only get a slight decrease hook offering now, why did they just nerf anti-tunnel perks for an anti slug move that they tabled again. But did they reverse the perks they nerfed for it nope. The game is the game. One person mentioned play with bots. We as surv (not all I am sure) would love to be able to just play with a bot killer with different levels of skill, as I am sure killers do not care either if they have bots or not. I am not saying anyone is right or wrong I am just saying it is the game, it is a toxic game in nature. It has become my not so played game, easier to just walk away than get pelted down with nasty comments or lame game play (by either side).

i dont see this anywhere. If I take a look at the same old killer mains they´ll do pretty well as always. Maybe take a look at your own gameplay?

Why do we have to control the chain that spawns out the gate way? It’s way too wonky to use on console. Especially when it gives little to no benefit on most loops because it’s so easily broken! The Cenobite should just be able to open a gateway and the chains automatically spawn. This would encourage more Cenobite players to play with his power rather than to rely on box logic (which is just boring imo).

How have camping and tunneling been punished? With ptbs that never made it to live?