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Everyone should be "able" to win, whatever that means. I'm really tired of this repetitive, performaitve argument we keep having. My stats are the same when I solo or party up. When my altruistic, team-minded ER is higher than you're self-centered rat one I'll let you know. You don't have much of an argument until then.

Who says the nerfs are unnecessary?

Of course you'd bring that up because that would work great for you.

Pretty much the reverse order. They nerf the hell out of survivor things in compensation for prospective nerfs to tunnelling/slugging/camping, and then they chicken out of the T/S/C nerfs and keep the survivor nerfs.

Best thing we can do is like I said just stop playing Survivor once more and more people stop playing Survivor and express frustration on why they have stopped playing like camping tunneling and slugging and Killer queue times are back to 30 mins then they'll have to do something.

Swf is not as strong as you have been led to believe and they were always expected to use comms. Tools like discord and teamspeak have been used in gaming since long before dbd. The devs would have been aware of this. I would bet the main reason we don't have in game voice is voice chat not being a feature the devs want to implement and maintain and they know people can just use one of these other tools. It nerfs oblivious/undetectable perks but those are not typically considered strong in the first place. If these tools effect kill rates then they effect the data used for balancing and are therefore taken into account.

High MMR four mans had an escape rate of 48% when we got stats for it (approaching a year outdated). That is losing more than they win (if only by a little), its better than solo queue but it is not even approaching nurse and blight level until you get up to actual comp squads. That is the double standard, you are treating every swf as a comp squad and every survivor as god tier while downplaying everything about willies streak, who isn't even a comp player. I have seen very average killers achieve 50 game win streaks. I've also seen willie try to swf streak, they don't even reach 20.

Dash would mean he is no longer The Trapper, that is the main reason I think it would be sad to see.

Pig games can be super lame since her buff. Not even defending this instance specifically in the Otz clip. But often Pig players will just run some broken Penti/Thrill hex build against a solo Q team that has no means of coordinating efficiently, and it is extremely boring to play against. Once they inevitably down and trap a couple weak links on the team, you can't finish the gens and if you try to get rid of totems you just get downed. So you just end up either playing for hatch, or if you're the one that's been trapped, you just run around to the boxes until you run out of time. "low tier" really doesn't make much a difference in Solo Q where your teammates are often "low tier" and competent killers can make the so-called "low tier" killers perform very well.

Sounds more like they got the right Ghoul.

As time goes on and more killers get added and more tier lists are being made, their is one constant and that Trapper is always at the bottom of the hierarchy. Its no secret to those with functioning eyes and working thumbs that Trapper is god awful to play and even unplayable on certain maps, if you spawn on a map like Crotus Pren you basically just gotta accept that you have to shed three pounds in sweat to win or just accept that you will just lose and thier is nothing you can do about it. His need to pick up his power and the fact he has no movement means that he will always not be in the higher tiers but is that hard to just give him one more round of buffs to at least make him c tier? Whats even funnier is that BHVR once said that Trappers kill rate was good enough to not warrent a buff, but the problem with that is most of those kills come from new survivors who just got out of the worst tutorial on planet earth and are thrown into the deep end of the pool and are not told a thing about what killers do and how to counter them. If the DBD tutorial got updated and actually told you how to play against killers then Trappers killrate would drop to horrid levels. BHVR it's amazing to me that the poster boy of your most successful game is stuck at the bottom and you are for some reason just ok with letting him be known as the killer who will always known as a d tier killer.