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dawg even the forums gonna be flooded at this rate

i just played against a bubba whos ping avg 400-700ms and legit chainsawing us through walls LMAOO this is a joke bro bhvr can u fix the damn netcode the hits should be fqing server side validated not based on the killers ping this is actually stupid asf

My point is that people were not complaining about Spirit Fury.

People are complaining about cheaters, about server issues, about Killers like Ghoul, about Killers like Trapper (for entirely different reasons, tbf) and we get vintage BHVR, changing something nobody was complaining about.

He is bad in the sense that people are mostly bad with him, its similar to Nurse or Pyramid head, if you spam and miss a lot yeah, he sucks, but if you learn to play boring, aka bait power, zone, not spam power 24/7 and be very patient then he is really strong, its kind of like hillbilly syndrome where no one thinks he is S tier because no one outside of the top 2% of billy mains is that good. In the right hands though, very strong.

i think bringing up something a survivor as yourself would be bothered by something i am not.

Of course you're not bothered by ratting, you're the one doing it hahahahaha. I'm sure tunnelers are perfectly happy with their own tunneling. Using something you do that you know is considered bad form as an example of something that doesnt bother you is truly a peak moment. Which circles us back to this "I'm forced to tunnel" crap which you know quite well is bs. You do it because you want to, not because you have to. You do it because someone tbagged you at the gates once or said mean things in the chat, because you have no empathy and don't care about other people's experiences. You've said all these things before. That's exactly why tunneling is often toxic—it's used as pre-retribition against random strangers for past tilt formed from a poor ability to manage emotions in a video game. That's exactly what you're saying here:

survivors know their actions bother other people yet they still do it

"Some people act bad so I will treat everyone poorly too."

They done the PTB to try and reduce the effectiveness instead of pushing survivors to actually learn how to loop, to teach them to stop unhooking too soon in the killers face.

Why are we using baby player actions like unhooking in the killer's face as a basis of discussion?

"dont tunnel, play properly, leave me alone to do gens" "dont gen rush, do a few gens then wait for me to get a kill"

There is a huge difference between "leave me alone to do gens" (which no one has ever said in seriousness) and "please don't shove me out of the match with 5k points and ruin it for the other three survivors." The gen rush = tunneling comparsion doesn't hold water, as much as everyone so desperately tries to make them equal. Simply doing gens with no gen perks and taking the full 90s because the killer overcommitted isn't gen rushing. You're supposed to keep them off the gens and busy. This is what I mean by not learning the game.

Weird to mention sabo squads since that's not what almost everyone is complaining about with slugging. Might as well include people lurking with a flashlight in that case. Both of those are generally considered "reasonable reasons to leave someone on the ground for a short period" while you go chase the other person. Neither is a reason to leave someone intentionally slugged for 4 minutes to bleed out.

The other two, though, are self-fulfilling prophecies.

If you hard tunnel one person and leave the other 3 alone, they will do gens. Survivors respond to things the killer does or brings to the match, and do gens by default. But if I reword your complaint to "you know what, if you want to do gens I'm going to leave you alone and let you do gens" doesn't sound nearly as victimizing as you'd like.

Camping because of "swarming the hook" can also be self fulfilling. If you stand around the hook long enough you actually get both "gen rushing" and eventually someone will have to try and unhook "swarm the hook".

It can promote a discussion sure. However it's pretty rare for that discussion to be at all productive.

Bottom line is killers piss and moan if they can't have a smooth sailing 4k. God forbid one or 2 survs get out from time to time. If you lose most games as a killer these days, then you are the problem. Stop asking for more hand-holding and nut up.

Vecna has a lot to his kit, plus secondary objectives, kind of.

Onryo also has secondary objectives that are not optional. She's also pseudo-stealth, which is a problem for anyone without good headphones/hard of hearing.

Freddy also has stealth and hindered. Plus, he was changed semi-recently with the new blood exploding pallets, which honestly, I don't even really understand either tbh

Cool story bro