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1. It's the killer who chooses to go after the unhooked, who did nothing wrong, instead of the stupid unhooker. Killers are also capable of making choices.

2. Going after the unhooked is punishing the wrong person. No one learns something from someone else being punished. When they lose the match, they dont go "it's because I unhooked too early." The game isn't teaching them that's an issue.

3. Killers can swerve mid-chase and zoom back to the hook to tunnel even if you do everything right.

We could do something like putting slow downs on teaming up on a single objective (multiple survivors on a gen)

We could make it so the survivors have to spread out (can't just focus on one gen)

We could make it so accomplishing part of their objective makes the next stage harder (each gen completed giving the killer less gens to defend vs an elimination making the killer side easier)

We could even put unnecessary objective for the survivors, and give them strategic reasons to do them or not (say 7 gens but require 5 to be done, and make them decide whether better to spread out or focus)

Basically - we do that already. Punishing the survivors for doing their objectives, giving them pros and cons to various approaches, is already baked into the game.

Again, they're saying that it's at the intended point, but they're not saying it's balanced.

They release killers like vecna instead, also i never said they were right about all there decisions because they have all the data.

To have a discussion, you don't get to be selective about that. If you're going to argue that BHVR reached a decision based on data or their experience than that has to apply to discussion of all game elements, not just the ones where you happen to agree with them.

they said that killers having 60% kr across all MMR largely falls within their "killer balance" so 40% should be applied to all MMRs and group sizes.

Those last two words 'group sizes' are something you just tacked on. You can believe that, I don't think its feasible, but its not something BHVR has ever said.

Balance is subjective, 60/40 to the dev team is balanced. It was literally word for word stated.

This depends on what you mean by the word balance. Many people, most I think, use it in a non-subjective way

Balance can also be used with attached conditions, such as BHVR does, but that does not mean the game is balanced in the sense of being 'even'.

There's no point in being delusional about words this is literally stating 60% KR is intended

It's not news to anyone that 60% KR is what they go for.

Which is why these builds are broken in the hands of SWFs, having coms, changes the game. Communication in Dbd against a killer opens up so many doors and opportunities.

SWFs having the possibility of being stronger is again not news to anyone.

Whether they were coordinating quick heals, deliverance plays, pick ups, background player, sabo, etc. all of those are going to be stronger in the hands of a high MMR SWF with good coordination. It doesn't however address any of the points about the downsides of going all out on gen rush in comparison to the alternatives.

Hi, hope everyone is doing fine!

I was watching a video discussing how many killers could have basekit addons and it came to my mind on how so many characters on the killer roster are still dependent on addons and how some of them are weak as hell.

Would really "break" the game if Trapper could start all of his trap, Ghostface had more 6 addons as basekit, Pig had her dash addons basekit and so on? I've been playing Dracula (and some Ghoul eventually) recently and the difference between him an other lower killers is night and day. Even against toolboxes and BNPs i feel i have a chance when the Dark Lord is my choice, different from other who i really like as Legion or Wraith.

I know SoloQ has some issues but buffing weaker killers would really ""break"" DBD?

Below a tierlist from a Brazilian content creator i really like, to foster discussion:

(EDIT: This tierlist was made during the Stranger Things Vecna PTB)

Thanks for the attention!!

I know he is short in the lobby but the fact that he isn’t in an actual match is just disappointing for me. I know I’m probably complaining about nothing here, but this is genuinely feels like false advertising. Give us our short king.

It just needs to go back to the way it was. Pointless nerf, imo.

I do miss old Distortion. I hate that BHVR basically decided that all survivors must play a certain playstyle and stealth isn’t allowed anymore. The hide-and-seek aspect of the game is what made me love the game in the first place and then BHVR decided to nuke it for whatever reason. The biggest problem with Distortion was rat players, but BHVR decided to take the easy way out and punish everyone instead of actually coming up with an MMR system that makes sense. If you’re ratting, your MMR score should reflect the fact that you do nothing but hide in matches and punish you with worse and worse teammates in your next matches. Instead, MMR rewards rat players who end up escaping. Fixing the MMR scoring system is the solution but for years now BHVR has refused to do this.

They shouldn't be looking at data alone? When 99% of the user base hates going against the killer they should take that into consideration