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Regarding the Ghost Face Nerfs
For those who don't know who I am, I am reputed to be quite critical of BHVR at times, and am incontrovertibly a Killer main. On the PTB, I was equally outraged at the egregious lack of strength Ghost Face initially had. Lastly, I agreed that Ghost Face did not need any nerfs.
With all of that said, a Killer's power should NOT derive from the impossibility of utilizing their counterplay, such as staring at Ghost Face doing absolutely nothing when it's intended to work. Ignoring the shifts in power and buffs, these were the negative changes:
· Pallet stuns will now break Ghost Face out of stealth.
· Marked Survivors may no longer be stalked.
· Detection area of screen slightly increased for Survivors attempting to reveal Ghost Face.
- Pallet stuns are indicative of the Survivor's knowledge that you're there, and this is frankly a rare occurrence anyhow. This change is no cause for widespread outrage.
- This was an unintended mechanic to artificially inflate the Exposed duration, would only work on Survivors whom don't simply look at you to boot you out of your power, and was almost certainly an oversight.
- This is a 4% increase to the size; there are times a survivor can be staring directly at you out in the open and it won't kick you out. We'll see if it's too large when it hits live, but at first glance this seems fine.
I'll end with this before I'm accused of being an apologist; all of these changes promote healthy gameplay, but the somber reality is that Ghost Face will NOT be viable, but it isn't because his power sucks or is poorly designed, it's because the context of the game is completely skewed. Map design and the Emblem System will be the death of Ghost Face, and it's important that we not see the forest for the trees.
Killers shouldn't need to be as strong as Nurse or Hillbilly to be viable, they should have ample counterplay and still be strong. The complaints we should be making are that mid tier killers aren't viable, not that killers aren't designed to be top tier.
Proof Devs A DO NOT LISTEN
You release this killer on PTB and he's utter GARBAGE. You give just enough before release to get people interested, then NERF!
You sent Freddy to the abyss like this before!
You did this to Pig with EGC.
You BURIED Legion.
You sent PLAGUE to the depths of Atlantis.
Now... You nerf ghostface! I won't be buying him. We knew you'd do this YET AGAIN and you proved us right. You listened to NOTHING and went ahead with your NERFS anyways! This is messed up. It's a shame you're so scared to introduce a killer that's actually a threat!
KaoMinerva
Feedback : going against Ghostface
From what I've seen he seems very strong and super fun to go against!
Its actually a challenge: once he marked you and he is chasing you , you have to run for your life!
You can't easily loop him cause he can mindgame too,but thats ok ,I actually like these type of mindgames.
Looking forward to level him up,Im excited to play as him :3
Great job,Behaviour ,I couldn't be happier for a new killer !
MODS, YOU ARE THE OG'S
- Mettle of Man: We have changed the condition for getting tokens. It is no longer for being hit by a Killer's basic attack. Instead earn tokens by taking "Protection Hits". It still requires 3 tokens to activate. Survivors will still need to be injured in order to trigger the Endurance effect and avoid being put into the dying state. This means that Mettle of Man will require more work from the Survivor to trigger Mettle of Man's Endurance status effect.
THAT WAS BASICALLY MY IDEA :D. IT'S ONLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
@Peanits I think you passed it on, so thanks :)
Poweas
Why? Why nerf Ghostface?
It's not exactly why you nerfed him, it's that you decided to. The man really doesn't have that much going for him. His stalk is only reliable when survivors aren't expecting it, and even then he struggles. The man is a basic M1 with almost zero counterplay to loops. His shroud only will help on tall walls, but the cooldown is too harsh to reliably use.
The guy will probably remain mid-tier until survivors become even more use to him. With one single pallet, you can run to the opposite side of the map as long as you are efficient and not running sideways much. The man can't do anything.
Is Ghostface out on Steam?
It said on the release information that for now it will be purchasable with Auric cells, and on 12:00 PM EST it will be available for purchase with Steam.
Exa1ib3r
Developers, please do not do this...
Don't nerf it!!!!
BALANCE
The Ghost Face:
· Stalk rate add-ons (Telephoto Lens, Night Vision Monocular) are slightly reduced.
· Pallet stuns will now break Ghost Face out of stealth.
· Marked Survivors may no longer be stalked.
· Detection area of screen slightly increased for Survivors attempting to reveal Ghost Face.
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