The Rift Will Cause a Player-base Wide Burnout
I feel that if the Rift grind isn't changed in some significant way by the time Tome II rolls out, we're going to experience burnout throughout a big chunk of the player-base (aside from complete casuals).
Maybe it's just me, but I've personally stopped caring about actually surviving the game/killing the survivors and just making the match go on long enough to obtain the max xp for the match. I've also seen a lot of other players having the same mentality as well (Killers afking, survivors hiding instead of doing generators at red ranks, etc).
Anyone else feeling the burn?
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Nope. Just playing like I usually do with some slight adjustments depending on if I'm doing a challenge or not.
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Dunno ive switched to the Switch since i like playing handheld but its not released yet so i can avoid the burnout. I guess its the silver lining with the Switch being the unwanted child of the franchise.
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Nah, I'm the complete casual. I just completed kick 2 gens and now I apparently have to safely rescue two ppl.
Having said that, I too am now planning on neglecting everything besides safely rescuing two people.
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I don't think so.. the challenges aren't that hard to complete. sure they will get harder but if you get burnt out, take a break and go back and try again later.
I already finished tome 1 and i'm not burnt out.
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Yup. I'll hit a couple survivors at the beginning of the match as 'proof of life,' then I go stand at a door and wait for them to finish gens and leave. I've already lost interest in playing the game.
I'm starting to think that I'm going to quit playing altogether once I earn all the serum vials on the Rift. If they bother to do a fun event in the future, I'll come back, but if every future event is like this Halloween one...
I am just so happy I didn't buy the premium battlepass. I'd be really pissed at myself if I had.
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I'm not talking about the challenges being difficult. Tome I was especially a joke, I'm talking about after finishing the Tome and only being able to grind further shards with ~500 XP a match (which is solely based on time).
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Am I the only one that gets the challenge and actually try for the challenge? I've had hate messages cause I stopped someone from a dull hex, telling me I should have left them, like hell no, I want to win, that's a free grab and if you're dumb enough to think I'm going to stop how I play for you, well, free kill for me, or a DC idc I got my kill, just annoying that it was for an easy reason
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It's in part 'cause you said "Archives" will cause a player-base wide burnout. I know you meant the Rift and the fact that it's 8k XP for each tier on it. But technically "Archives" refers to the challenges.
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Not entirely sure if I will buy it or not, but I'd only make the purchase if I maxed the entire rift first to guarantee getting my money back in Auric Cells.
It really is just an XP grind fest at this point. I feel that a quick fix they could do to SOMEWHAT remedy the mess they've created is significantly boost the XP you receive from emblems, forcing players to actually play the game to complete the rift instead of just match time.
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@TragicSolitude You're right, I did mix those up. Fixed :)
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My bad, I meant the Rift grind, not the Archives challenges themselves. Aka 8000 XP per tier when you're out of challenges to do.
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Teammates doing the gens very fast isn't exactly what you want with the Rift though. XP is solely based on how long the match goes on for, not how well you perform. The Archives challenges are great, the grind to get 8000 XP per tier through game play is not.
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It’s not that hard to gain xp and I feel that it gives people something to look forward to while leveling... which is a whole lot better than playing matches without much of a reward.
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Well the issue (for me at least) is that you aren't even rewarded for playing well, just for how long the match goes on. If they significantly boosted how much XP an emblem gave you, I'd care way more about how well I did in my matches and actually try to win. The way it's currently set up just has me auto piloting to get the max XP by not dying/ending the game too fast.
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Yeah, I'd have to max the entire Rift. Because if I buy it, I want the vial charm at the end. And given how ridiculously simple charms and recolors of cosmetics make up most of what's on the Rift... well, it's starting to look like one of those "grab bags" stores sell for cheap that have maybe a couple nifty things in them but mostly you're paying too much money just for trinkets that'll end up forgotten in a drawer. But at least you usually don't have to devote 4 to 6 hours of your life to earning each separate trinket in said grab bag.
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Honestly I couldn't have said it better myself haha. Some of the things in there are pretty neato, but most of it isn't worth the sheer amount of hours that need to be put in.
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The 3 days of doing challenges was fun. The other 11 days of having no challenges left and watching rift fragments and levels craaaaawl by is really bad.
Considering there's going to be basically 0-2 weeks downtime between tomes, they're basically expecting us to ALWAYS be playing DBD. It's pretty gross.
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Im with you. OP just play as you did before the rift of course you are going to burnout if your only goal its to min/max
Have fun!
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The way I used to play Dead by Daylight (aka playing a reasonable amount of hours) wouldn't be sufficient enough to unlock the entire Rift, so that isn't really an option. I would have significantly more fun if the way I performed impacted my XP gain (making emblems actually worth XP, etc). As it is now, all that matters is the match goes on for long enough but not too long as to waste time, performance is irrelevant.
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God, so much this. ^^^ It was nice to have something new to do with the challenges. This huge wait time between each Tome is just... it highlights how bad the grind is.
There's no reason to have the Tomes be released more than one week apart. Most games would just release them all at once and let players decide their own pace, because there's really no reason to time-gate everything. But two and even three weeks between Tomes? That gives players a lot of time... in which they can think about just how not fun needing 8k XP per Rift Fragment is. Oops.
Worse is that completing all the Tome challenges doesn't complete the Rift. It should've been designed so that if players completed every single challenge, it would complete the Rift, and earning Rift Fragments with XP is just there to help players when they're unable to complete some of the challenges. That would be more fun and more reasonable than what we got.
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Nah, i've had a burnout before, and this addition is having the opposite effect on me. 😊
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No i'm pretty sure it's just you also if someone is afking in lockers for no reason that's probably a personal issue perhaps not even boot the game up if that's your mentality. (And yes i've seen it happen but pretty rarely)
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Then dont bother with the rift if you are not having fun with it.
Performance being irrelevant means you dont need to be a meta slave and you can play however the frick you want.
Getting burnout its only going to bother you, I too want to complete the rift but its not on my mind at all on the trial except its a challenge.
Do you main survivor or killer?
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I mean it's not just me but sure I guess lol
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I can vouch did four hook saves started gen and did not pip because we did it all fast lol.
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I main survivor but also play killer when I feel like it (the queue times are definitely not making me want to though).
The rift (when there's no challenges to be done) blows but there are a few things in there that I actually want so I must unfortunately slave away at the grind of predatory game design.
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The addition initially had the opposite effect on me when there were still challenges to do. Now all I do is grind 8000 XP per tier to make sure I actually end up completing the Rift.
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Good that they weren't smart enough and didn't put anything interesting in it. I don't play as killer anymore, survivor cosmetics are meh and only for few ones. Charms? Lel no thanks.
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I feel the opposite, I finished my Archives and I want more challenges lol
The Rift though which I don't think you're talking about though is burning me out. I hate the grind for unlocking Perks on Killers and seeing 70 damn Tiers that take over an hour to complete each one is very daunting. I unlocked my first full outfit with Serum last night and maybe tonight I'll go up 1 more Tier. The Archive challenges from Tome 2 will help but we've all seen Tome 4 and that's not happening, grinding for the Rift is too much in my opinion.
But then again we won't know until Tome 2-4 come out, maybe someone will complete the entire damn Rift before they all come out. I am curious to see how far I can get in the Rift before Tome 2 comes but I know that real progress only comes from that so maybe not far.
I hate the grind, I took a 2 day break from this game a little while ago and that's not a good sign when you have rewards locked behind a grind that's time constricted.
6 months before everything goes into the store btw
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The main thing for a lot of people is how the putrid serum has been integrated in there, forcing you to grind if you really want any of the Halloween cosmetics (let alone all of them).
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Yeah I meant the Rift, not the Archives. I'm all for more challenges, I really enjoyed having to complete them. However, I do not enjoy slowly inching my way up the tiers with 8000 XP each.
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Well the reason it works for me is because i find it fun.
I responded that way because it's the subject, but the easiest way to avoid burnout is to have fun and put in some variation.
If that's all you're doing, yeah, you'll be done pretty soon mentally.
It's not wrong at all for you to have the goal of wanting to complete the Rift, but remember that this is planned to be a thing forever: Once this one's over, a new one arrives the day after the previous one's closure.
Choose a day or 2 in the week where you just have casual fun, but that's just my advice. ?
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Tbh I got the burnout when I beat all the challenges.
Cause since I am a team player, (as survivor) and a blood thirsty one (as Killer)
It's hard to do your main objective while doing all the challenges.
Which tbh burns you out on its own.
And 10 Fragments are waaaaay too much if you only get 1 for 800XP.
Like why not 2 for every 800XP or even 3.
That would make you be able to progress through tiers faster and wouldn't really burn you out much.
Just a thought.
@Peanits please tell me the devs are going to make it easier to progress through tiers...
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I like the challenges, but the rift isn't that big of a deal to me. Cosmetics are a nice reward, but I am not going to burn myself out to get them.
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Why play differently than you already were though? Playing rewards you with BP, profile XP and Rift XP. Why would you only focus on one of them?
I'm really confused. Honestly. Just because the rift is here now doesn't mean you still don't have other rewards for playing.
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Yeah, more than likely. Will see it more once the rift closes as many will be trying to grind out the last few levels.
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Maybe in the future they can work out length of tomes by difficulty. So maybe give us more time with the tomes as they get harder? Like from what I understand we will have the same amount of time with the fourth as with the first....but the first will never close, cause I'm sure you can go back and do them whenever.
Anyways...I just enjoyed the challenges as well...and now I'm just waiting
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I'm already feeling it, sometimes I just leave the game open in the background and not play it while I contemplate whether or not I want to play a match.
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Killer queue times give you plenty of time to do that ;)
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Oddly enough I don't have much time waiting for lobbies as Killer. Usually I get one every 1-3 minutes.
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Must be nice. I get like 20 minute queues. Not even worth it at that point.
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I mean the only games I will get are games with Object of Obsession users so it's not like it's all good either..
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It's the opposite for me.
The Rift update is giving me lots of DBD Downtime. Since the performance is terrible I feel like playing the game a lot less than I did before the patch.
I been playing a lot more Overwatch and Killing Floor instead. No way I'm getting burned out. I also finished everything I want to do in Level 1 in one day. Since the event is pretty much a non-event there's no real incentive to keep playing, the game is the same and there are no unique mechanics. So there's no need real incentive to play it as much as you can, while you can.
I hit Tier 23 on Day 1 of the patch. I don't feel pressured to play any further on Level 1 when we have 60 days left and 3 more levels to wait for. I am certain I can hit my goals when Level 2, 3 and 4 hit. I only need to reach Tier 43? Or whatever it was that has the last Putrid Serum. It looks extremely doable to me. I don't need to reach Tier 70.
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Did you play on the PTB beforehand? Because I've been no-lifing the game and just hit tier 25 today.
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I think the time between tome level 3 and level 4 is 3 weeks, and then the time in which to complete level 4 before the Rift closes is 2 and a half weeks. Makes no sense.
It'd just be so much better if they only had a week between each of the levels going up. That'd still space it out some without forcing players to try to rush through level 4. Yeah, you can complete the challenges whenever once they're up, but the Rift Fragments earned through them only count towards this Rift, so completing them after this Rift closes means you don't get the full benefit.
It was nice to have new stuff to do with the challenges. All this down time between level 1 and 2, just waiting for the next set of challenges... it's so boring.
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Not to mention Tome III and IV both release around Thanksgiving and Christmas lol. Lots of people won't even be able to hop on much.
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Is AFK as killer bannable?
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Probably, but I doubt anybody reports it. Free win and free bloodpoints. AFK reporting seems reserved for AFK survivors who throw the match.
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That's why i never AFK as survivors (not saying that i AFK before as killer)
AFK as survivor is worse than dc rightaway IMO
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If you do it (as killer) and occasionally sprinkle in real games you're probably fine but legally I have to say I am joking and that I don't encourage it. /s
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