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Spirit is the line in the sand..
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LOL. That's not what I'm implying at all. And that wasn't an answer to my question.
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It never gets better
She will get nerfed unfortunately
I dont play her(legion for life) but it never makes the game healthier for both parties . Just one side. Let's be honest, majority of peole who ask for nerfs dont want anything in this game balanced. They want something they can laugh and tbag at;at the exit gates or hit on hook and spin around at.
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I can tell them that because its according to THEIR numbers..so one of their numbers is a lie
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Seems like more interaction than running in circles
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Sadly
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Agree from my view all "Updated" killers (except freddy) are really unfun and feel clunky and sluggish. Nurse and Legion, these both killers are atm "Updated" and both are unfun and one of the least played killers atm. I honestly just saw 1 nurse in this entire event xD. I am scared what happens to spirit because I really enjoy her... if they are gonna destroy her too, well maybe I am forced to stop playing then becuase they already took out my main (legion) if spirit will get again a brainless nerf I am pretty sure that this will be the end of dbd. Since noone wants to play killer anymore because almost everyone is playing spirit atm.
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They should be waiting and seeing how the survivor buff goes..but they're too eager to please the dcers..whom sadly they take their wants over the players whom actually play and learn a thing or two
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Welp in the end she still gets nerfed. Bhvr sees her as overperforming so what I'd like to see happen is this. What we get we will never know and it isn't interaction when you have no idea what they're doing. They just show up somewhere and you win or lose a coin flip with nothing to help guide you if you're observant. So yes she needs a Nerf.
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Lol the coin flip thing? People need to stop being sheep..that whole thing is a load of rubbish..and interestingly enough..by their own argument it makes spirit the most balanced thing in dbd XDD so obviously I dont take it even slightly seriously
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I'm confused on what you meant by their number is a lie.
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Behavior has the DATA to know what needs adjustments. You guys complaining about the impending spirit adjustment are wasting your time.
It's been over talked about at this point, so instead of just complaining make valid suggestions on how she can be adjusted and still feel good to play.
The forum is not the majority - it's not even the target market.
BHVR knows that it's not good to have a killer that requires low skill to get 3 and 4 kills and high skill to counter.
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Lol this made me giggle
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Yet it's ok for the other side..? So forgive me if I dont buy into that
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How can she have a 3 kill average..but..other killers with lower kill ratings according to their stats they showed us have higher kill ratings than her..so one of those is a lie..which is it though?
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I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Maybe it's because she has always been consistent of getting 3 kills each match. For example, pewdiepie has the most subscribe YouTubers with over millions of views everyday, but you don't always see him on trending. It's the same for spirit.
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Hh..dont worry about it
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...ok..
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Their is no interaction while she's phasing besides bumping into her and that's an instant lose if you bump into her. There is no hope as a survivor because you have no info. I'm not saying give the survivors all the info but she needs to show more. Because again the spirit is over performing. When it's constant 3ks and 4ks it's over performing. The ideal is constant 2ks. Remember you can still win as a killer even if people escape it's a casual game. (I count a win as long as it's a pip.)
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He's saying they do it for killers, but not for the survivors, and he's right you know. I've yet to see BHVR nerf something on the survivor side, or adjust gens or something, since there are killers complaining about the Gen rush meta.
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That's because the Survivor side is way simpler and adjustments there need to be way more subtle. And they have, over time. The game is in the best health it's been in since I've been playing.
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And there lies the issue , your expecting a hard cap on killer ability only..but I made a post explaining my idea for the ideal solution that's actually fair and increases her skill requirement some without pandering ^^ I do encourage you to look at it , good day
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I agree but now we are going backwards suddenly and I think everyone would want to avoid that
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Good luck pipping if people constantly escape.
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I think you're jumping to a lot of conclusions. Spirit is way way too easy to 4k. BHVR will have player attrition if they don't fix it. Nurse is legit hard to play, so the reward for being good at her is more kills, but not being good at her is like no kills... That's not true of spirit.
It's bad design, but just one of many. They should buff up all the lower tier killers. I simply don't agree with their "not all killers are meant to be equal" line. Sure, it's hard to balance them all, but they shouldn't be this varied in success rate.
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They significantly nerfed healing in an attempt to make gens take longer. This backfired and resulted in the no heal meta.
They nerfed insta heals.
They nerfed exhaustion.
Hatch closing and EGC.
I'm not saying a lot of those changes werent needed but to claim they never change anything survivor sided is just a lie.
Its a lot harder to change anything survivor sided also as any change effects every survivor - they're just skins. Killers can be individually tweaked without changing all killers.
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Source?
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Indeed I agree on the last bit at least..but they're setting the bar quite low..and it's ironic how survivor being easy but powerful is expected yet spirit being perceived to be easy isnt ok..its a joke
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But it affects all killer players all the same
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Whom are you speaking to? If me then what are you asking ?
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It would really only effect those without the skill to play well with any other killer but you do you I guess
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See now your just being shallow by implying only non skillful players play spirit..I think we are done here
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I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you can only play well as a killer by playing only one killer then that should be telling, even to you...
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But you know that's implying everyone agrees spirit is easy which many do not and rightly so
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Compared to the other killers? Who is she more difficult than? Nurse? Huntress? Clown?
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Certainly harder than clown is though clown is just weak by design atm, just because she can use sound to locate survivors doesnt mean that's all there is..because if you just run at survivors you'll end up eating splinters just as much as any killer
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You seem to agree on everything I have said. If any killer just runs at survivors they will eat splinters (but luckily one of her perks helps counter this)... Thats not exclusive to the spirit. And the clown is weaker than the spirit and is obviously more difficult than the spirit to achieve the same outcome as her.
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Thsts due to his weakness..not due to his mechanical requirement
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Regardless, its still more difficult to achieve the same outcome with him as it is with the Spirit.
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Yet the reason matters...
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So you want to make her weaker in a different way than a way we dont know?
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I'd rather her change feel fair..I made a post on it actually
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They havent stated what the change will be - how do you know it wont be fair? It could just be a change to prayer beads for all we know at this point!
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Because of track record and we are fresh off of nurse's latest "tweak" which was only revealed as their idea the day before testing..up till that point they only mentioned the addon change
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and even if they say they'll change something by doing x,y and z they could end up doing a, b and c instead. The point is we dont know. By all means say what you would like to see but dont just complain about something we dont know for the sake of complaining.
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Your right they dont usually end up doing what we think..the reality is always worse..legion, nurse, even ghost face got hit hard enough that his primary playstyle is a liability over a benafit..look you've kept a pretty reasonable discussion but I dont really trust the devs not to ruin the best parts of characters anymore..not even doc and he should be buffed without question...
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I understand what you mean... Any faith I had in the devs has diminished severely since I saw the grind involved in the Rift and the difficulty of the Tier 4 challenges. I just have to hope they realise how bad some decisions can be for the game as a whole...
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For me it was gf..because I'd never seen the community come together both wanting 1 thing so badly before or since
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What do you mean? I can pip with only killing 2 people. The game doesn't count kills it counts how many hooks you can get.
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