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November Update: Spirit Review

NMCKE
NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
in Feedback and Suggestions
Prologue: Was the nerf warranted?

Hello, I seen the recent Developer Update and it's pretty interesting to see what they changed with the Spirit. Therefore, this thread will cover the following:

  • Spirit's core problems.
  • Did the nerf fixed her core problems?
  • What the developers could've done differently.


Remember, this is my opinion — always take multiple options to get the bigger picture! 🤗😁


Spirit's Core Problem

Her main problem was the lack of feedback she gave to the survivor, and how much more information she had than the survivor. This led to "unfun" situations where the survivor feel like they were downed because they were simply not given enough information to make a counterplay, but rather, a guess.


Did the nerf fixed her core problems?

The developers changed a few things that left survivors completely in the dark such as Prayer Beads and Spirit's vaulting animation.

However, while she is standing still, the survivor still doesn't know when she is using her power. Therefore, the survivor has to pretend she is phasing and faking her phase, but that's just too much for the survivor when they don't have any feedback.


Overall, the developers didn't solve her core problems completely, but did what they could within their strict time limit. 😁


What the developers could've done differently.

I think she should suffer from the Undetectable status effect while she is phasing. This makes her TR non-existent and thus, the chased survivor gets the opportunity to make a play. Spirit should also have a secondary TR that matches her primary TR, but her secondary TR is completely silent and is unaffected by Undetectable. Any survivors who walks into her secondary TR while she is phasing will get the vacuum audible notification.


To compensate, her cool-down is decreased to 10 seconds and can now see survivor auras during her phase.


Epilogue: Spirit Changes Rating

On a 3-point scale, here's how the developers did on this update:

✅ Developers obviously put effort into this change.

-Some of the add-ons were changed and made to be more unique such as Yakuyoke Amulet and Prayer Beads.

☑ Developers solved Spirit's core problems with this change.

-Although they changed some of her core problems, they didn't finish the job.

✅ Developers gave reasoning to the community on why they made specific changes.

-They gave reasoning on why they think Prayer Beads needed a nerf, why Yakuyoke Amulet needed a nerf, why her collision needed to be removed, and so on.

Bonus Point:

✅ Developers took community suggestions

-One of the community suggestions was to remove her phase collision, and the developers did just that!


I think they ran out of time towards the end, but they definitely did what they could at the moment. To give credit where it's due, they made great changes with their limited amount of time, nicely done BHVR! 😁🤗

Feedback about my opinion is greatly appreciated!

Comments

  • RainbowPatooie
    RainbowPatooie Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2019

    It's refreshing to see someone have a positive take on this game. Forums are so negative and toxic lately. The devs don't deserve all the hate they are getting.

  • RainbowPatooie
    RainbowPatooie Member Posts: 322

    Also you made all your points clear and neat, and I was able to easily understand them.

  • PolarBear
    PolarBear Member Posts: 1,899

    Agree with pretty much everything here. Good analysis 👍

  • GoatyTCO
    GoatyTCO Member Posts: 64

    @NMCKE

    This is coming from someone who mainly plays survivor, with the occasion of some random killers, (depends on my mood).

    They somewhat nerfed her into the ground, and like you said, they didn't fix the real problems, (besides those two very rare add-ons, THANK YOU BHVR GODS)..

    Some changes were a bit blind, like giving her a vaulting animation, I think adding SOME form of feedback would've been better. Preferably a visual feedback, like making her hands visibly move to the survivors.

    Also, the school girl skins' heads.. -_-

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,254
    edited November 2019

    Two points you get slightly wrong

    1. Spirit in phase can not see auras because those are tied to the models she cannot see. You litterally cannot give her aura reading unless she is able to see survivors.
    2. The "core problem" is her ability's core design of being a mindgame. It'd be better to straightup rework her than to staple on some "she's phasing now" indicator.

    But yes, the devs have been reasonable i guess. I wonder how he speed curve change will play ou.

  • Wesker
    Wesker Member Posts: 339

    the devs are well known for being graduateed in removing good features from the game, they don't stop giving free breast milk to baby survivors which are too cute to play against the old Spirit

  • Wesker
    Wesker Member Posts: 339

    will come one day where nurse, billy, spirit, hag and huntress will be removed from the game in order to improve hardcore skills for Rank 1 bald Dwights

  • AkiTheKitten
    AkiTheKitten Member Posts: 670

    Honestly, Spirit doesn't have a problem as her whole thing is being good in chases like that

  • PigNRun
    PigNRun Member Posts: 2,428

    Maybe her "core problem" isnt a problem at all?

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