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Better Perk: Whispers or Deerstalker?

What's good about Deerstalker is that it's good for slugging to prevent DS, so while you think that recently unhooked person has DS, you can leave them in the dying state, knowing where you left them. While you chase another survivor and just count in your head for the remainder of the DS ability and hope by the time you've caught the survivor you're chasing, the recently downed survivor's DS timer would've finished. That way you can run back to them and strategically avoid DS.

On the other hand, Whispers can give you a sound cue for when you're in a survivor's vicinity, giving you hints on where their whereabouts could be. Whispers can semi-counter immerse players and players running Urban Evasion. I see this perk popularly used on Huntress and Spirit, mainly because of their power, but I also see a lot of Huntress mains utilizing deerstalker, which brings me to this question:

In YOUR opinion, without leaving negative comments, which do you think is the best perk between Whispers and Deerstalker?

Comments

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,356

    I feel lost without Whispers. It lets me know when I'm in a dead zone, which is invaluable information. Knowing where not to look saves so much time.

    Deerstalker was great when I was doing the "Mori 4 survivors" achievement, since it requires slugging for the 4k. It's good if you specifically plan to slug, but otherwise I don't run it. I've used Whispers to find slugged survivors, too, it just requires more effort.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    In general, Whispers and it's not close.

  • Apple2o
    Apple2o Member Posts: 624

    I would not bother with deerstalker unless you are playing a very slug heavy killer, like infectious fright hillbilly / oni.

    Not sure why people are running whispers over monitor and abuse on spirit though. I don't think she needs help tracking with a 16m terror radius that lets you ambush people at gens almost as good as a stealth killer.

  • Cornpopers_Evan
    Cornpopers_Evan Member Posts: 2,428

    Yeah, I'm going with whispers on this one.

  • LOA
    LOA Member Posts: 235

    I don't like either, unless I am using a slug build, then I will use Deerstalker. I feel like Whispers has too big of a range. It would be better if it was a smaller radius.

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,327

    Whispers for me. So many uses, from finding someone quicker to finding the last survivor and everything inbetween. You can check entire sections of the map for survivors without actually entering them and wasting time looking around.

    Deerstalker is nice to have but unless you bring a proper slugging build it doesn't really shine, Whispers can fit into basically any loadout with one uncertain slot.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,556

    Whispers for sure. Its one of those perks where you might not understand how to use it right away, but with practice...you can pinpoint a survivor's exact location.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,556

    Just curious, but how much have you tried using whispers?

  • LemeTheMeme
    LemeTheMeme Member Posts: 403

    Whispers is hands down one of the best time management perks in the game. My favourite thing to do with Whispers is to know when or when not to kick a gen too. If no one is nearby, kicking the gen will provide so much pressure, since you know no one is returning soon. Love this perk on killers with bad tracking (especially Huntress and Nurse)

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Whispers is the best killer perk imo.

  • Witas
    Witas Member Posts: 477

    Yeah, as most people are saying, whispers seems objectively better, I like Deerstalker more though 😚

  • Marcus
    Marcus Member Posts: 2,047

    I would say that there are better perks to use than these 2, but Whispers is better than Deerstalker in most cases.

  • LOA
    LOA Member Posts: 235

    It has been a long while since I used Whispers. I used to use it a good bit when I first started playing almost 2 years ago. Maybe I should give it another shot.

  • BeanieBoyBob
    BeanieBoyBob Member Posts: 354

    Whispers. Survivors cannot play around it, and no amount of hiding will save them if you know how to eliminate all possible areas that they can hide using it.


    It's probably my go to Killer perk after Ruin.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,556

    Whispers is pretty good in pinpointing an exact location if you pay attention to WHEN it turns on, as well as keeping you from wasting time when the perk is off. If your not paying attention to it, look over and notice its on... then you run into your problem of the area is too big to find them.

  • WhTe_Tygre_DBD
    WhTe_Tygre_DBD Member Posts: 295

    Definately whispers

  • LOA
    LOA Member Posts: 235

    I get what you are saying, but even when it first turns on you are dealing with the maximum distance within a radius that the survivor can be in. I get how it may be useful for finding the first person, but it still feels like too big of a space for a person to be in. But, I also don't have much of a problem finding people to begin with. I will try it again though, maybe I can get some use for it on my slower killers.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,556

    Thats not entirely true though. When the light pops on, I know they are exactly 32 meters INFRONT of me, as opposed to behind me. I can also move left and right to narrow it down further on if theyre infront and to the left or infront and to the right. If you have a gen thats in that range... Thats why its important to see WHEN it pops on, not just note after the fact that your perk has been on for awhile. If I see WHEN it pops on...theyre 32 meters infront of me, not 15, not 22... If I only notice its on AFTER the fact, they could be anywhere.

  • LOA
    LOA Member Posts: 235

    I dig it. I am going to give it a shot on my Clown. He is one of the worst for me at hunting. I enjoy playing him, but haven't found a real winning build for him yet. Anything else run will with Whispers??

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,556

    Whispers is a pretty standalone perk, not something you need synergy with. Its just a matter of knowing how to use the basic info its giving you. Huntress is a common killer to see using it, but its good on Billy as well.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    Deerstalker is not worth a perk slot just for ds, unless you are running a slug build. If you are only running deerstalker the downed survivor most likely will get picked up anyway before ds timer is up. Whispers is a good tracking perk with nearly any build, not just to find a downed survivor but to find someone early game and start applying pressure.

  • The_Second_Coming
    The_Second_Coming Member Posts: 1,110

    Imagine thinking there's any comparison between Whispers and Deerstalker.

    Whispers all the way.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,953

    I'm in the deerstalker camp. That's a perk that says "I'm going for 4 kills". Whispers can be pretty misleading imho.

  • The_Second_Coming
    The_Second_Coming Member Posts: 1,110

    That just shows you don't actually know how to harness the endless power that is whispers.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,953

    "Endless power" is a bit much. I do know how to use whispers. A 32 meter radius is a pretty big area though. 3,215 square meters to be precise. In all reality it's larger than that since it's actually 3D. The volume of a 32 meter radius sphere is 137,189 cubic meters. There aren't too many maps where the 3rd dimension is too relevant though. Lab, Haddonfield and Game really.

  • The_Second_Coming
    The_Second_Coming Member Posts: 1,110

    It is a big area, but when comparing it to deer stalker, deer stalker only does one thing. Tells you when a survivor is in the dying state. If they are in the dying state and you can't find them in a 32 meter range, welp, I'd say your tracking skills need work, no offense.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,999

    i can't stand the noise effect when using whispers

  • creekwookie
    creekwookie Member Posts: 11

    Yup, that's what I was gonna post. I wear headphones when playing killer and rely heavily on my hearing to track survivors. The entity's whispers are a huge distraction

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,953

    The point of deerstalker (imho) is to get the 4 kill. You down the 2nd to last survivor and have absolute freedom to hunt the remaining survivor. You can use the downed survivor as bait and circle around looking for any ways to approach him/her. If the other survivor picks up the downed survivor, no biggie. You know exactly where that happened and can easily down the survivor again and know the last survivor is nearby.

    Whispers on the other hand is a poor substitute for this effect. You don't know which survivor is being "whispered" about. They have a far higher chance to actually recover in this situation. Now it's 2 against one and you have a good tracking perk. You'll still likely win. But I still feel if the goal is 4 kills then deerstalker is the better perk. I don't deny that whispers is more versatile. I just feel that with my goal in mind deerstalker is the better choice.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Whispers is more usefull overall but deerstalker is stronger when you put it in a specifik slugging build IMO

    I personly never really cared for whispers I always felt that it's only usefull at the start of the match and when you have already won

    I prefer discordance over whispers honestly

    Also a bit of an odd comparisson, other then that they are both tracking perks they are intended for 2 completly different things right?