Spine Chill is not that useful, change my mind.
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You're talking to me?
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There's plenty of corners to block vision and some maps are heaven for stealth killers. I get enough grabs in high ranks as Ghost Face to know it has huge snowball potential.
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Yes.
Also you can't see a smart Wraith on most maps, they use objects to block LOS. Honestly the more you talk the more I think you go against green rank killers that have no clue what they're doing.
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Im a red rank surv, bud, Try harder :)
You can see a wraith from the distance and as I mentioned there's a better counter, sprint burst, instead of using a perk that's situational and barely works against no-stealth killer, sprint burst is a counter to stealth killer and normal killers, and let's not mention the 99'ing, that's a very strong tactic.
Honestly the more you talk the more I think you're another braindead spine chill user.
And btw Im talking about solo survs, and if you play solo a wasted perk slot can basically kill you.
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Have you used them or had them use on you? Prolly not.
They are still very strong. Without Spine Chill you really have no way to know if she is coming for you or not. It's the same with Legion's Iri Button or Doc's fake heartbeat. Spine Chill tells you when it's fake.
This besides being an absolute hard counter to stealth killers. Like yea you can play on edge all the time and move if you hear the slightest thing but with Spine Chill you just wait for it to light up before you leave. You don't need to really even look around. It shuts down these killers so hard. Anything Oblivious/Undetectable is worthless against Spine Chill.
Plus it tells you what has the killer's attention. If you hear a heartbeat on a gen, but Spine Chill only flickers then killer is nearby but not focused on your gen. If it lights up then they are coming to your gen. If you are healing behind a wall and it lights up, killer has Nurse's. Knowing what the killer is focused on is a big deal.
Bashes Spine Chill.
Claims Vigil is good.
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Some maps?
You mean Hawkins, Lery's (which is getting reworked), the game, yamaoka..
4 maps..
The chance of going in those maps are low, so that's not an argument tbh.
And you most likely are going against braindead survivor, cause
- Grabs are bugged
- Any good survivor that has a good reaction-time will instantly move, which will cancel you're grab (cause as I mentioned grabs are bugged)
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Solo survivor:
Bond, Kindred, Sprint Burst and DS/BT
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Where did I say vigil is good?
Im saying it is a good combo combined with sprint burst, which most likely will get you 2 sprint burst in the same chase, and that's REALLY STRONG.
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You're making a lot of sweeping generalizations based on anecdotal evidence. Ghost face is played a lot, along with spirit, those are stealth killers. Pig also is played a fair amount. You clearly just posted this to hate on the perk. Idk why it means that much to you. But yeah, your mind is made up. Like i said, post is not credible. Just toxic. Don't find it useful? Don't run it. Simple. You're basically mad that other people value it. Definition of toxic.
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Mad?
Im giving my reasons of why I dont like spine chill, they're doing the same but saying why they do like it, we both are discussing why it is bad/good.
It looks like you dont know the definition of toxic.
Did I insult someone?
NO.
Ghostface is played a lot, yes, but spine chill isn't going to hard counter him, since he's main power is stalking, and he can stalk from the other side of the map.
Pig isn't played that much in rank 1, are we playing the same rank and game bruh?
And spirit isn't countered by spine chill, the real counter here is Iron Will, spine chill only was a help with old prayers beads.
And if my post isn't "credible"
Why do you keep discussing here?
You can easily close this discussion.
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You don't find it useful, so you make an entire thread to bash it. That's like me not liking whoppers, but pulling up to burger king to explain why i don't like whoppers. No one cares. It's not useful dialogue. Because you are not required to run it. Therefore you're just poop talking it. Which isn't positive, so yeah id say toxic. You literally said overrated. Meaning other's opinion on it is what you have issue with.
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And you did insult spine chill users, repeatedly. Lol. But I'll leave ya to it
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Im saying my POV in spine chill, and see how people try to convince me.
And yeah people do care, cause this thread already has 4 pages.
If you dont care about it, you could easily not comment.
Btw once again the definition of toxic, you need some education.
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Imagine thinking calling a perk trash an insult, lmao I just can't with you 🤣
Is like saying you're book is ugly, is that an insult to you?
No.
That's and insult to the book.
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You’re running bond and kindred, and telling us we’re wasting a slot on spine chill... thank you for ending my year with a laugh
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I'm legit rolling at this dude
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Bond is to when my teammates rarely get hook and I dont have a medkit, so I need a heal.
But im just trying it to see how it plays.
Cause as I said I used to run spine chill (just swap it to bond)
Im testing with perks -_-
And if you laugh about a opinion in internet, you seriously need some friends.
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Bond and kindred are good but spine chill is my baby
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It's S tier if you're a brainlet and you only know how to afk on gens because if the killer finds you, you're too bad to actually deal with them. Same type of people who cry about BBQ and Whispers, just overall bad players.
I'm not afraid of stealth killers because I have awareness prior to not knowing who the killer is.
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Yup, but im still swaping perks, rn im testing adrn to see how good it plays.
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Brainlet?
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Btw, thank you for being calm about this thread!
Lol, it's just awesome how people get mad and agitated by saying X perks is bad in OP's POV, this is a game damnnn, people get agitated over anything
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Testing 2 aura perks together is a noob strat. Just run DS and BT together. Or try something fun like Alert, small game, or unbreakable.
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Actually Unbreakable is my main perk, but as I said Im testing perk rn.
And it isn't, it can be life saver in some scenarios like:
You are injured and need to be healed
No one go down, which means kindred isn't working
You get a heal thanks to bond and a possible good chase thanks to it.
So no, it isn't a noob strat.
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You're wasting a perk slot for a very niche situation where bringing/finding a medkit is a much better option. Definitely not a noob strat.
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Personally, certain perks just aren’t for everyone and that’s ok. :)
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I think you're the only one agitated. Maybe because you're denying the fact Spine Chill is undeniably much better than you make it out to be?
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You say you’re insulting the perk, not the people, but your earlier posts suggest otherwise.
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Im not gonna keep discussing with you, cause we are not going to make it anywhere and this is just a toxic discussion.
Just a tip: Dont get agitated about someone saying you're favorite perk is trash.
Look at @GrootDude He said spine chill is he's fav perk, and he didn't get mad agitated about me saying it is bad.
Bye bye, happy 2020.
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Going against stealth killers is rare at rank 1 (at least on my region) so we can apply you're same logic to spine chill.
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If saying X perk is trash is an insult to you, that's ok.
Mature dude, this is a game, dont get agitated about things like this lmao, you are funny, you make me laugh (maybe this is my last laugh from 2019) so thanks :)
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We already explained Spine Chill has many more uses than just stealth killers
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Again, stop basing your comments about stealth killers being weak and being able to see them coming a mile away on your games against lame killers. It’s clear to see what happens, streamers start using Wraith so everyone copies it except they play it wrong. They don’t sneak using line of sight blockers, they run straight across open ground so of course you see them coming.
Play against a good killer using wraith or pig and let me know that they never get the jump on your from around a corner.
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Good killers are really weird to see, and it is impossible cause right now matchmaking is broken.
And as I said im getting out of this discussion, I have better things to do, (wait for the new year)
So byee
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And I already explained you why that's not true.
Once again, bye have a great 2020 and dont get agitated over a game.
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Haha now I don't have to keep wondering why killer mains are agitated by survivor mains. This mans won't admit he's wrong and tryna dip. How cute.
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Titles a thread “change my mind,” and then makes it clearly from post one that there is literally ZERO way to change his mind.
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I dont think im a survivor main:(
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Why not
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Both rank 1 achievements, and most of my achievements are for killers, so that means I play both sides, typical argument from someone that can elaborate a valid one.
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Survivors are learning.
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There are more achievements for killer I thought?
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Well, that means that I play killer more than survivor, so your argument is invalid.
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No I mean to unlock
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Well, most of my killers achievement are adept, and getting an adept killer at R1 is hard asf
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Personally I use spine chill because I have a slight amount of hearing loss and I'm r/g colorblind. Gens just make things too loud for me to hear subtler sounds and maps like yamoaka kill my ability to see. (side note can we please get some colorblindness settings?)
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I run spinechill due to the fact that LOS isnt always guaranteed. If Im working on the gen in the school on Badham for example and the killer is nearby, Spinechill lets me know when hes ACTUALLY coming to me. Ill gladly work on said gen with him nearby, but I dont want my first indication that I should be running be when hes walking down the stairs.
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That's kinda like my set. I use spine chill, tenacity, small game, and lythe
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Lol, right?
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Yeah, spine chill is not that great
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