Before we blatantly punish players for dcing let’s address why they are dcing
I could see why they are adding a dc penalty system because disconnects are getting worse and worse but let’s ask “ why do they dc “ well here are a few reasons bugs , bad teammates, BM , not having fun, and really dcing because they want to get out of that match. There’s a leave button for a reason, if dcs were really issue then they could remove the leave match icon and instead force players to pull the plug and wait the loading screen and boot up process.
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Ahaha no.
Get banned for DC.
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I mean last time i played nobody could heal me
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It's my game crashing for me. Sometimes I consult my teammates about a Killer that "dc"d only to find out the match was still going and I was gone.
Edit: Oh and Bloody Party Streamers seem to guarantee a DC. Great work.
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Ive been saying remove the leave match button since i started playing this game. That being said, there are people who DC for legitimate reasons like connection or real world emergencies. Those people will not be affected by a DC punishment because they won't be doing it frequently.
Its the people that DC on first down, or because of a map, or killer or whatever. Those people it will affect.
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I think the majority of DCs on both sides are from players just not having their way, and I believe they should be punished for quitting.
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If you want to pretend that most DCs are not solely because the match just isn't going the way someone wanted it to then go ahead. But these penalties are needed in just about every online multiplayer game and I can think of no game that needed it more than this one.
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NO... its a multiplayer game if you dc you screw all the remaining players... feel free to dc but deal with the penalty...
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Screw players who DC for illegitimate reasons.
Not having fun because you're being tunneled etc or anything related to how other people play is NOT a reason. Fun is COMPLETELY subjective.
The ONLY things that need to be adjusted for this system are fixing of game bugs that literally force DC's.
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If you DC cause you have to close the game than the penality is not a problem, go to sleep and tomorrow you will be fine :)
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bans should be more strict.
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My only problem is for "DC" caused by the game crashing during the loading screen, those should not be counted, since some ppl can have more than 1 or 2 for game session
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They should have fixed the matchmaker first.
Tbh I don't think these DC punishments are very fair to killer, as they won't discourage punishing people with DCs since they are so light and won't have to DC to do that very often, they can just hook suicide to get out of a game other times. They have full control still.
Killers are just stuck in an unpleasant match all game, they can't DC, they can't AFK, they can't forfeit and die on a hook, but when it's a rank 14 going against a full sweat red rank SWF they should be allowed to just afk or let them go, at least until matchmaking/ranking is fixed it's only fair.
Unfortunately most of the community is unsympathetic to other's misery though, so someone is probably going to ree at me for even suggesting that.
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the penalty should be on bloodpoints, not in game time, not in a game that I PAID and has a lobby simulator in...
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Oh please. It’s FAR worse for survivors.
Killers are in control. They can make the game really unfun for survivors if they want.
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It's not worse for either side. It's equal.
#BalancedThinking
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Lol there it is.
And you can't, they claim to punish/ban for that. Supposedly anyways, I have not AFK'd enough to actually test that out. If however, they don't actually ban for a killer AFK ing in a match, then yeah forget what I said entirely, it's fine, I agree. (Other than the killers being in control but but w/e that is a whole other discussion).
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The only valid excuses for DC's are when the game is laggy or when the players are hacking, otherwise DC's are the result of entitled attitudes. "omg slugging" get good and loop. Run Unbreakable and No Mither if you must "omg bad teammates" just keep pushing the gens out by yourself. If you get left to die on hook oh well, don't ruin the killers' experience because of how you feel. "omg sandbagging" just quickly react, sandbagging is extremely rare anyway. "omg tunneling" run DS and get good at looping. "omg camping" can't be camped if you can't get caught, learn to loop kid.
Survivor experience is already easy enough as is. If people feel the need to DC as survivor then they're trash at the game. Sure there's times where moments are frustrating but ffs, don't consistently DC. And before anyone tries to say this (because people have actually said this) no, survivor has never been, currently isn't, and never will be 'stressful'.
Same for killers. If you DC because of your feelings, then you should get punished as well. Just play the game.
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You didn’t call anything. The killer can make the game far less enjoyable for survivors than the other way around, just pick Ghostface, then tbag until bleedout for example and the survivors have to sit and do nothing for 4 minutes.
They dont ban for afk wraith unless someone submits a report and video evidence.....which nobody does because nobody cares.
Also you get trolled as survivor by other survivors, killers that remember you from previous games and mori spam. As survivor you’re expected to sit and watch while all this trolling goes on.
Killer has the option to do something in every situation. If someone is being toxic you just tunnel the living daylights out of them if you wanted to make them miserable.
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Then it is is still a threat and still a problem and my point stands.
Also you are literally just doing what I said someone was going to come in and do, so yeah I called that fairly well. You go ahead and do you though.
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Well we all PAID the game and most of us don't want to play with someone who will DC.
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I DC for the following reasons
- tunelling
- camping the ruin totem
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if you want a punish, Do the penalty on bloodpoints 70% or 80% or even 90% less bloodpoints to the ona that DC for the next "x" games (3, 5, 10, 15, etc)
or better, give more bloodpoints to the 3 other survivors for doing objectives if 1 survivors DCs.
Without the DC penalty i always wait more than 5 mins, even to 10 mins ( i PAID a game not a lobby simulator ) now with the penalty imagine the wait time...
Devs are killing the game for not thinking well the penalty...
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really? Why wouldn't you just do gens if the killer is camping ruin?
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Too many people with too many hours in this game to care about blood points. If they are habitual offenders they obviously are not too concerned with bps to begin with.
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Put the people dat DC togheter in another "server"
put a qualify system that every time you finish the game other players can rate you...put bad rates together and good rates together...o wait... i forgot this way needs devs that actually work not only in skins haha
Ban the bloodpoints...true fact is, you CANT tell me how or when to play... we all PAID a GAME...and we should be able to play how the F()!"=· we want...
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bruh what? ruin is pretty easy to work through now . especially if they're camping the totem
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if you break the rules you get a punishment , that's how life works. if you dont want to sit in a lobby longer than you have to then dont DC.
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Nobody is saying you can't play how the F()!= you want. We are talking about DCing. DCing is not playing. It's quitting.
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Put the people dat DC togheter in another "server"
put a rate system that every time you finish the game other players can rate you...put bad rates together and good rates together...o wait... i forgot this way needs devs that actually work not only in skins haha
now we all can enjoy the best lobby simulator ever! (before this i wait 5-10 mins to find a game...imagine now)
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The people that DC often and frequently are usually just salt lords. Those people should seek professional help, it's not the devs jobs to handle that LMAO.
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Players can rate you? Are you fairly new to the game? You want players of this game to rate you afterwards?
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its a right to quit every time i want...or no? o you wanna force me to play with (for ex) 1 afk and a lag s"% server?
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It is your right to quit. Nobody is taking that right away from you.
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You didn't pay for the game, you paid for allowing to play it. And with that payment you also had to agree to terms that allow them to ban you if you don't follow the rules
Always love those players that think the devs own them something cause they bought their product
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Valid. My killer rank is 17 (I only play for the challenges lol), and I was against 4 red ranks :((((( the matchmaking is........ bad
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bugs
There are and always will be bugs. I don't find survivors DCing because they hit a bug. They DC because they get hit. Killers DC because survivors outplayed them.
bad teammates
not an excuse.
BM
grow a spine or stop playing
not having fun
Welcome to DBD. Fun is very subjective and some only have fun when they are winning.
and really dcing because they want to get out of that match.
Only true statement said.
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Lol what?
You just said “Fun is COMPLETELY subjective” yet consider DC for not having fun as an “illegitimate reason.”
Pick a side. If someone doesn’t want to play in match because they’re frustrated or blatantly not having fun, they have the right to leave. Leaving for any reason is subjective to the person leaving. I would love to see the queue times post DC penalty on Console (Xbox). Talk about a Nuclear Bomb. If I don’t play with friends I get at least 1-2 DC’s a game as killer or survivor.
I played survivor with friends last night, group of 3, played 3 games in an hour. Implement a DC penalty and you affect MM yet again. What happens when you penalize a player for a time-limit for DC’ing? They play another game or don’t want to play that particular game anymore because if they’re not having fun, they get penalized for leaving.
Good luck penalizing players for leaving out of misery. Make your game more enjoyable and people wouldn’t feel the need to DC.
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Fun is subjective. But DCing because something is happening in game that you don't like is not a reason to DC. Take the L and move on, don't ruin it for everyone.
What were you trying to get at here? Cause it didn't work.
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i have a receipt, so I PAID for the game... not for the right to play it...
The thing that you said is microsoft store bruh
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Reason for Disconnecting is also subjective to the person.
So??? Your argument please?
Someone might think murder is fun = subjective
Someone might disconnect because they are having a bad time = subjective
When you DC, you technically are “taking the L and moving on.” These posts are literally people whining about someone else’s choice. They DC, so you accept and move on just like you’re telling them to take the L and move on. But this is all subjective because it’s literally opinionated.
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Nobody is making you play the game either. I'm having a hard time following your argument so I don't know what to tell you.
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why not? if you are a toxic, camping, tunneling killer you are gonna get matched with better players...if your are a scum survivor dat DC you are gonna get matched with better killers (to the point that you cant even play)...
but hey, you're right, that method needs work and a dev team that actually work in the game (not only in ######### skins )
Overwatch was a cancer comunity game and have this sistem...all toxic players were matched togheter and all fair players too... the more toxic you are the more toxic are your parthners. but im dreaming comparing blizzard with a low budget company.
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You know there should only be one excuse for a dc, a gamebreaking bug, which hinders you to play or real life stuff (in that case dc dont matter anyway) everything else should be punished. I do not care why people dc.
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No it's not. Valid reasons for disconnecting are dictated by the devs and are in no way subjective.
/discussion
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in the digital world, you pay for a license to use/play whatever product you buy. That’s why Xbox/PlayStation cannot be sued for banning a user from their system.
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You know what else overwatch does? It has time penalties for dcing.
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well dud, prepare yourself for lobby simulator, or even better, afk players in the hooks
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survivor just with friends 4 group. q times are already ######### anyway.
killer, pisses me off to see somebody dc and get a free win or having to farm.
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I’m sorry, you’re still not proving a point about it not being subjective. Regardless of what these Devs try to enforce, the concept is still subjective. These developers, I apologize if this offends your shrine, are not God Almighty. They have no say so on what someone feels is a reason to disconnect from a game. Start banning people from an already awful experience and you’ll just hurt your own player-base. I play because I enjoy it, but I leave/get off once I stop enjoying it. You’re not going to force me by “rules” on why I have to reside in a game that can be toxic or dragged out by better players when there are plenty of other games or life activities to participate in.
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Overwatch also has a huge player-base in comparison. Last I played, there were also casual lobbies and competitive lobbies (which casual didn’t have a DC penalty).
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