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So I tried out Breakout... here are the suggested changes

I thought this was a funny combo with Sabotage + Bond but I was wrong, the Haste status is pretty much unnecessary and the 6 metres of action is ridiculously low, you gotta be technically kissing the killer to make its 20% wiggle up speed magic, so this is how it is now:

and this is how it should be, since Haste is so unnecessary and the metres is the fundamental part:

Support?

Comments

  • Cheers
    Cheers Member Posts: 3,426

    I'm fine with the haste staus effect imo. Can help when going for body blocks.

  • 5thPerkSlot
    5thPerkSlot Member Posts: 395

    Haste is ridiculous because you are so close at 6 meters that is like going to receive a hit for sure? and the 1% scale up makes no difference

    Yui deserves something better for a lv40+ teachable perk, and increasing metres to take the 20% of wiggle speed is the right way

  • Accullla
    Accullla Member Posts: 984

    The speed haste status and 6 meters range feel perfect to me. It gives you the opportunity to run in and out of the killer's range really quickly, so unless they're really smart and know exactly what you're doing you can actually force them to swing multiple times for what otherwise would be guaranteed hits. It's a really fun interaction for me as survivor and really annoying one as killer if I don't catch on quick enough that they are actually running significantly faster than me. As survivor you can't always get your teammate to wiggle off, but wen you do it feels soo satisfying.

    Another thing that's worth mentioning is that breakout actually doesn't combo well with sabotage unless you're running a sabo toolbox with strong addons. To sabo a hook you need to be there before the killer. This pretty much defeats the purpose of breakout, which requires you to be running around the killer forcing them to swing at you. Mettle of man and styptic agent are much stronger combos for breakout.

    In summary: the perk is really fun to use.. if it were any stronger it'd feel quite cheesy to use; it does not combo with sabotage; it does combo with perks/addons that allow you to take hits such as styptic, mettle of man and potentially adrenaline

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,357

    The fact that the perk is a risk/reward type of thing is what prevents it becoming too overpowered imo. If the distance was increased, there would be absolutely no risk to running it because you wouldn't get hit and the survivor would be pretty much guaranteed a wiggle free, which is not what the intention is - its to give a chance to wiggle free, not a guarantee of it.

    The haste status effect is imo necessary, it helps to counter Agitation and it also helps to be able to run around the killer and try to avoid the hit for a s long as possible.

  • Taiga
    Taiga Member Posts: 368

    I would prefer if it also increases your own wiggle speed.

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    Dude, the haste is fantastic for baiting hits I would be upset if that was removed. Numbers probably do need to be tweaked but the haste has been great for me when I use it.

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    Haste exists to make you be able to catch up to the killer to body block the hook and to bait out hits.

    They could increase it a bit (meters and % wise) but i think this is a pretty good perk.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Haste is good for body blocking and baiting out swings. No good reason to remove it.

  • 5thPerkSlot
    5thPerkSlot Member Posts: 395
    edited May 2020

    I only play as Sabotager build, 1k hours, so I am pretty sure this perk is too weak since the time you are inflicting the +20% wiggle to the carried surv is not remarkable since you must be too close to the killer.. consider the 6 metres in game feels like 3 or so. Not to mention, an +1% of extra speed to 7% does not even let you maneuver around the killer as you guys depict.

    Yui's top tier perk (level 40) needs a rework, otherwise is so under powered and wont be equipped, just check the official stats of perks usage.

    We are talking about fun, and this perk so far does not compliments Sabotage properly. I am not even asking to increase the wiggle buff more than a 20% or a 15/20/25%, that is fine, balanced, what I suggest is the radius of action to be more than 6 ridiculous metres.

  • 5thPerkSlot
    5thPerkSlot Member Posts: 395

    Wait what? This perk isn't even active while in dying status... It is worse than I thought

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    Because it's not supposed to compliment Sabotage. More of Mettle of Man.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    I think the perk is ok as it is. The haste effect is very good for bodyblocking and to avoid hits, and since the killer doesn't have a lunge and can't close the distance 6 meters are actually a lot.