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Unpopular Opinion: Tunnelling
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I didn't know that you could cancel it in that way. And people tend to hate Self-Care. For a time one of my builds was Balanced Landing, Self-Care, Botany Knowledge and Decisive Strike so that I could run and heal back up after. It was pretty effectively actually.
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Okay, but quite often these days anything the killer does ruins the "survivor experience". And almost no one has even bothered to wonder how they determine whether it's to ruin "their experience" on purpose or not. The very idea of the "killer" ruins the survivor experience, because no matter what actions killers take someone always finds a way to blame killers for it.
I just had a game where another person unhooked me in front of the killer, they got downed and I made it to the top of the basement stairs before getting downed again. This player blamed the KILLER for tunneling...... Really? Their bad decision to unhook me which cost both of us is the killers fault? The killer made the best choice possible in that situation. They got 2 people hooked in the basement at the same time.
If I played killer, you can bet your ass I'm going after the injured guy before the idiot who saved him in front of me. Why wouldn't I? You're supposed to help your team, and that means when it's SAFE to make a save and when it's a stupid idea that'll get the person hooked either killed or hooked again. I'm not saying tunneling doesn't exist, or that killers are beyond complaint. But, why is it survivors always want killers punished for their mistakes? By playing the game as survivor you accept the fact the killer is going to try and kill you by ANY means necessary, and not going to cater to your sense of fun.
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Yes it is. It got a really bad reputation after the healing nerf and now many are screaming at selfcare users for no reason. I keep going back to selfcare + botany, because i genuinely find it strong. Inner strength + sprint burst is the sweaty contender.
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Agreed, as I only play solo queue self-care is mandatory.
I run Self-Care/Kindred/WGLF/Botany Knowledge or Dead Hard
If you don't need BP you can switch WGLF with something else. It makes it so I don't have to rely on my team, but I can also support them if needed.
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Tunneling is the hallmark of insecurity and lack of skill
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When I play killer I never tunnel, if all I found was the unhooked guy I may smack him and leave them slugged but won't pick them up (usually only if I have STBFL to get a free stack). I'll always go for the rescuer because in most cases it's a stack of bbq I haven't gotten yet.
As survivor even in red ranks I'd say a good majority of killers don't tunnel, they may smack and slug and go for the rescuer right away and leave you alone both sides know it's not fun for either. That being said I've had games where I'm found first, sandbagged, and hooked to death and back to waiting 5-10 minutes for another game that took 1 minute. If I'm genuinely getting tunneled a lot I will throw on DS for a bit but if I haven't gotten tunneled I'll take it off again. I hate running DS but I also hate getting deleted out of the game with no chance to have fun or get points.
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Yep have the same build but with iron will over wglf. Kindred gives all the info solo queuers need and botany turns you into a healer, generating free value whenever you heal. Very handy and lazy build
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- I heard some Killers tunneling 1 to dead as soon as possible, then play with other 3 for good BP
- That is EQUAL to Survivors rush 5 Gen and have Gates ready then they fool around Killer for some more BP before open the Gate and escape.
Both wants to have easier game while still keep high BP and pip.
I had a match where I got like 3-4 hooks then all Gen are done (as Trapper in MacMillan realm with a big tree in the middle). The funny thing is Survivors ran around taking hits here and there, then I got another hook. 1 took a hit and run away to lure me to go away from hook, just in result other 2 trapped at the same time near the hooked one, I went back and down both.
1 on hook, 2 down, 1 injured. I chased the injured, luckily other 2 down didnt have Unbreakable. I had 4k. The fact all of them could just open the Gate and escape.
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Yeah there are douchebags on both sides for sure. They take the game way too serious or something, as killer I normally play sub optimal killers and don't play like a dick. I usually kill 3-4 but not always. If they want to get cocky and in my face and try to bully me, I start playing like a dick. As survivor I don't play toxic, I always bring hunch and do all the totems so they aren't getting hardcore gen rushed. But like My group had a legion against us today that was so bad we knew they were sort of new, all 5 gens done with no hooks. We felt bad so we led him to a hook and we were all pointing telling him to hook us so he could get some bps. He tried to down us all, and the guy he got on the hook he facecamped. We couldn't believe it. At any rate we all escaped and he was a rank 16. We decided we were never going to be nice like that again. Too many jerkoffs play this game.
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I clarified in a later comment that I wasn't saying tunnelling was immoral - all I said was that one scenario is slightly less morally justifiable than the other. Kind of like how my grandparents are both old, but one is slightly less old than the other.
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@joker7997 my game wasnt toxic, but its understandable that people want and easy game and still able to win with more BP. Its a normal thing for me as Trapper main that once all traps are done, its mostly 3-4 Gen done. Combined with what I said "Gen rush then fool around".
Balance the game isnt enough, people will always find a way to exploit it and make the game easier. Gen rush & Tunneling are examples. There must be a way to totally remove Gen rush & tunneling, camping. I do have ideas for those, and I believe its fair, but unlikely to happens.
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They won't get changed too much. All are strategies and the devs had said so themselves. If someone chooses to play that way there isn't really anything you can do to force them to stop. You just have to find the counterplay for that strategy. It might not be fun to play against, but one side shouldn't have to play a certain way just so others can have fun
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@CrazeCrame because both way (both side) are to seek easier game with good reward. It will happens all the time. Fair Survivors will have fair chance vs fair Killer and vice versa. Gen rush Survivors will always crush fair Killer. Tunneler will always crush fair Survivors. Playing fair doesnt reward players.
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agreed but comparing morality to a killer is useless its like trying to apply age to someone who is ageless/immortal
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Lore wise the killer isn't meant to tunnel. The entity feeds on hope that's why extending the match is how you pip and earn more blood points. Tunneling a survivor off the hook wouldn't give them hope of survival.
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I was expecting another survivor rant about being tunneled. However after reading your descriptions of when it is logical for the killer to tunnel and when it is not, I agree.
There are plenty of reasons why tunneling works in the killers favor but there are some situations where it is abused.
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Agreed. I do not support/condone the tunnelling of one person off the hook to the point where you even refuse to hit people bodyblocking for them or passing a gen where you can clearly see another survivor (that most of the time is injured)
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