"Soul guard" is another broken second chance perk. Nice.
"gives you endurance after being healed or after recovering from the dying state"
Right, cause second chances perk aren't plenty enough. This is busted as #########.
Next MoM in the making, calling it.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. Please let us know what you think after playing with/against it a bit.
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Yeah, honestly, I don't feel like we needed another, "Just do ######### in the killers face because he can't punish it." perk.
I suppose that the meta of, "Screw everything else, don't even bother hiding or using perks that do anything else, just do gens and let the killer smack you because who cares." is never going to change, so we might as well get used to it.
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I view it as more of an anti-slugging/anti-tunneling perk. Chances are if someone's left on the ground for extended periods of time, it's either the last 2 people alive, or the killer is waiting out a D-strike they think might be coming. You can avoid this perk entirely if you just hook the person instead of slugging them, and if they have D-strike, it really is best to burn that sooner rather than later.
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This has to be bait
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Im sorry @Peanits while i do think we should wait and see how it plays. There are way too many second chance perks as it is and i think we might just see it as part of the meta :/
DS, Adrenaline, BT and Soul Guard? I hope killers are getting a perk that can help with this stuff. 🙁
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Where can I find the new perks?
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It ensures that someone who is healed from the Dying State has a chance to get away instead of simply being smacked down again.
Sounds fair. Will probably not be used anyway.
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the PTB is live rn. You could also watch the 4 year anniversary stream, where to go over it briefly. Its around the 1 hour 20 minute mark or so.
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Survivors aren't getting an extra perk slot. This is just another perk in the pool, it's not a survivor buff.
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Killers are getting a bunch of niche stealth perks.
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If I’m not mistaken - the killer can teleport people to hooks and Mori them in his base-kit - no?
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This perk sounds really OP for a EGC situation.. If the survivor is running DS and Unbreakable with this perk there's nothing you can really do
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BUT WE GOT PYRAMID HEAD!!! IT'S AWESOME!!!
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Oh so you're giving the same treatment you gave MoM.
Fine by me. As long as it gets "fixed" later like MoM did.
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This is a 3 Perk-Combo for a really niche scenario...
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it's something like that, and it's base-kit, yeah
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Oof. I'm going to despise this perk as killer. I swear survivors get stronger perks than killers. More god mode for survivors to be cancer with, ugh.
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No, it doesn't. You want someone to not go down right after being picked up? Don't pick them up in the Killer's face.
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“while cursed by a hex you can fully recover from the dying state”. Damn
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The " recover fully from the dying state when cursed by a hex" part sounds more overpowered to me than the endurance effect.
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What. 2 of this perks are already meta. The next one just puts the final nail in the coffin for invisibility.
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I’ve just started to watch the stream so I’m still not at that bit -
personally im more concerned about the graphic update and cross play when so many issues already exist in the current game lol
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Sometimes there is no other option. But hey, lets dismiss it again as "reckless Survivors doing stupid stuff" instead of just seeing valid arguments, eh?
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Yeah, but that's the game we've got right now.
It's funny, the "casual" game and the "high-end" game are drastically different things. People walk into the game thinking that survivors should be hiding, should be careful, should be trying to not get injured and whatnot...
Then the high-end game is, "Just get hit, it doesn't matter, the killer is going to have to slap you 7 times for a single hook anyway. Go do the gens fast and get to EGC where the perks get REALLY crazy."
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This mentality is amazing. First we get told "just slug the DS" now we can't even do that anymore. Good job.
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There is always another option. It's called not being stupid. Unless you're the only non-slugged Survivor, in which case you've lost anyway, there will always be something to divert the Killer.
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Fun Fact: If you don't immediately go after people who were just unhooked or picked up off the ground, you end up making their DS, BT, and SG completely useless! It's like you get to delete a perk slot from the survivor!
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Chances are - people won’t waste two perk slots on second chance perks like that.
you can also see when a survivor wants to be downed because there’s a difference between how they play. Idk, IMO, read how the survivor plays to understand and predict what they might be doing
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If it was a killer perk I'd expect massive changes before release. It's a survivor perk though so rolling unbreakable and alternative borrowed time into one perk is probably here to stay. Ugh
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Fun fact: if you suicide on hook the killer can't use their mori!
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Dont forget For tge People, it could synergize REALLY well with that
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You can always tell the people who have no idea how high end SWF groups play, because they say stuff like this.
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Oh look, another perk that can be countered by just picking up the survivors.
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Regardless of what you do it'll make things more difficult for survivors. Let's say you've got a match where everyone is still alive. Someone goes for the unhook. You down the person who was unhooked, and chase after the rescuer. That means unless the survivor is cursed or they have no mither or unbreakable, someone will have to come rescue them. That means out of 4 people, only one person is working on a generator. And if they want to heal them to full, that's more time where those two still aren't working on a generator. That's not a bad position to be in.
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Oh no the devs are finally making a possibly viable survivor perk that might shake up the meta, time to bash them!
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DS, Borrowed time and now this
good thing pyramid heads power can just yeet em onto a hook
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Missed the stream but it sounds like a one time use though it is just another perk to synergize with unbreakable just like Tenacity. Though depending on the timer before getting healed and hit it could easily be abused near endgame.
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Yeah, this is gonna be broken as hell with Unbreakable.
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But you dont go against tryhard SWFs every match. Thats just a meme pushed by killers that dont want any perk remotely powerful added into the game.
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It's a slugging counter perk and very situational. Relax ffs.
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The Endurance effect only last it looks like 8 seconds at tier 3. That's basically a Styptic.
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“while cursed by a hex you can fully recover from the dying state”
Why this part exist when the endurance effect part are already strong itself
I'm calling it
They will nerf Pyramid Head later but completely ignore the Soul Guard perk
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It doesn’t seem that broken though? It’s only active if a killer is using a hex and the survivor is affected by it. Seems more like a counter to end-game killers with things like NOED.
not too bad - not that good either.
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While I like survivor build diversity possibilities when I play survivor both effects soul guard is simply put unneeded at this point.
Lets get the elephant in the room out of the way: Its hex hate part shouldn't exist as nearly all hexes are already bad perk and making it so they can literally empower the survivors makes the weakest perk category even weaker.
For soul guard's main effect its simply put way too long(Should be at longest 5 seconds) for what it en-tales sense slugging is expose to be the counter to 2nd chance perks and this is a major infinite use counter to slugging with no draw backs.
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It lasts 8 seconds, it's nothing. It will be useful only in very very niche scenarios or with a whole dedicated build.
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- It doesn't nerf hexes because it encourages you keep them active
- 8 seconds is half of BT, which is already easy to work around. This effect is only useful in niche endgame scenarios or if the killer chooses to let it activate.
- I agree it should have a requirement or limitation to make it less of a catch all perk.
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This perk's stupid as hell. It rewards stupid plays and destroys most Hexes. Looks like it's going to need some nerfs.
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This is an astounding bad second chance perk that will only be used in meme builds. I can't believe anyone would give a rat's *ss about it.
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So you can't slug with Third Seal against a squad with this perk. Uff.
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If you 99 a medkit and go from injured to heal during a chase, you basically get 3 health bars(If you use when they killer is about to hit you). 4 with dead hard.
Also if you are cursed (noed,ruin, third seal,etc) you can recover from dying state in front of killer and get endurance. Goes perfectly well with decisive.
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