Deathslinger too good for solo Q players??
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I'm just gonna be short & sweet: No. I play solo a lot at rank 1, & Deathslinger is one of the few killers I don't really fear. Weaving is a great tactic against him. Find objects to put between him, his shot, and yourself. Any skill that gives a burst of movement to put distance between you really puts the sting on him.
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You may have no problems, that doesn't mean everybody hasn't. i get your point, but it's really situational and 75% times in its favour.
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Oh no, I agree its subjective. For instance, Ghost Face has made me jump out of my seat more times than I care to admit, lol. Who we're good or bad against depends on our skills. That's why I gave my advice on how I handle him, because to me he seems pretty simple. I'd have to argue about how many people I see lose to him though. It's not a small amount but I'd say he probably averages 2 kills.
Tbh I dread when I go to learn him. I might actually be good at him because I can handle him so well, but I think it's just because he's mid-tier.
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i'm gonna be spit for what i'm saying but i love playing against nurse and spirit.. and i'm not afraid or have any problem with any killer but with ds.. This doesn't mean i NEVER die, it's the opposite, i die very often BUT that's because i'm bad, not because the killer is too strong. I know where my mistakes are and i'm trying to work on them, but with ds i really don't feel the same... like if i had a video of me playing any killer vs me playing ds, you'd really see the difference. Like i tried every tip people gave me, but it always end up the same: I try to wiggle> get hit> i waste a pallet get brute forced and get downed... This is why i believe it's not entirely my fault, but it comes a little bit from him too
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Yeah Spirit is a problem zone for me, because it feels like nothing but a guessing game, but I love a good Nurse. When you die to Nurse, you know it's just because she's a damn good Nurse! Takes a lot of practice that one.
Perhaps that's something you could do though. Post some videos and ask for advice about what you're doing wrong. You could try some of the Twitch streamer's Discord servers. People are usually happy to give pointers.
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I follow True, and i seriously think that i'm just bad against ds :'D you know, my weak spot, so i'll just accept the loss i guess..
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Oh man, here we go again.
So next time if I have trouble with a low tier killer, i`ll go into the forums and cry for a nerv, too.
Just imagine if you face him again and cant 99 a gate or get killed by EGC because he camps two doors right next to each other, because it starts right after completing the last gen. :)
But no problem for you, as you said survivor is easy mode. xD
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Reported for toxic behaviour, just saying
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Reported for toxic behaviour and ot spam, just saying
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Oh no, devs please nerf reports :O
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As long as your team holds M1 and they aren't overly altruistic against a 8 STBFL stacks Deathslinger, then you should still be able to escape against him in solo.
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Something that doesn't happen every time, it's pretty much the opposite. Always high stacks, always full of dead zones and no gens done. I understand this is the worst case scenario, but its really common and it's kinda boring
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If no gens get done against a 110% speed killer with no mobility, then that's your team's fault, not the killer's.
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Indeed, but i said that is too strong chase wise. It's not a m1 killer like clown, he can quickscop you from the far and thats the real point of the discussion
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If you are challenging yourself you cant complain when it gets too hard because you put yourself in that situation. Also complaining about a low tier when you are the only person to blame for your own bad time. Ga m er momento
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Killer beats solo queue
SWF beats killer
Killers get buffed to deal with SWF
Killers get even stronger against Solo Queue
Nothing happens to solo queue
See the problem?
It doesn't really matter what killer it is, 9/10 times killer will destroy a lobby full of solo queue players.
Feels balancing man.
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No, because if you say that i need something to play good against a killer for me it's equal as saying that you need to break something to get rid of anger and i have to do the same, same mentality. If i see something that it's not working with my method, at first i try various things that could fit myself, but when i see that my methods doesn't work and the only answer is: Play lamer, then i understand that something is wrong and i start trying to change things to be more challenging instead of just being lame. Same as i don't play mori or noed as killer because again it's just the way of playing lame of the game. you may win games, but it's not because you are good, it's just because you are actually subtracting parts of the game that otherwise you should face, same as insta kill addons like the huntress or clown etc.
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can I get that in short concise english
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Deathslinger will still fail against solos who do gens. He has strong chase, but he still has to take time to reel survivors in for the hit and reload after every shot which takes up time. On top of that he's 110 movement and can't really pressure the map.
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Not true, because you could always just fix the SWF scenario, instead of changing the entire survivor thing. And if people starts crying about these changes, they are just revealing their true identities: Unskilled kiddos that gets their strenght from the group and abusing weaknesses at their advantage. And i'd honestly prefer lose such players to get better ones who actually play this game for actual fun and challenge instead of just bothering the others.
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Its english and there's written everything needed to explain what i mean. If you don't get it, it's not my problem :)
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And we all agree with you, but with the non existent TR and the quickscop, he kinda just hops on gens and insta downs you and all the surroundings since he always run with STBFL so i honestly believe that gettin rid of quick scop could actually be a thing already
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Just a reminder that a Deathslinger on PC is far more deadly than on console. Some of these comments are probably from console players that have not considered this.
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I’m utterly tired of hearing “BT/DS/Adrenaline wahhhh” that has to come from 6-12 mo of playtime killers. I can’t fathom someone with experience griping about those perks still. And if you think I’m a survivor main, you’re 100% incorrect
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Wait, i didn't consider that either! Not because i didn't know about the platform players, but because i didn't know about the platform players actually posting here too! i thought it was just ps players here :O
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These are perks needed to make this game healthy... I never get in the fog without DS, it's just as it is. There are too many killers that are frustrated and tunnel or they just use it as a "tactic". Both ways DS is needed, same as borrowed. But i do believe that adrenaline becomes lame when there are SWF abusing it to gen rush when wounded. Also in general, i do believe that the problem is abusing this perks like hoobombing with Borrowed, gen rushing when wounded etc..
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I mean if you want to act like you said something smart you could at least make it legible so other people can read it. Part of writing something smart is to make it legible to your audience.
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Part of being smart is being able to understand everything even tho you can't read it. It's named guess and you can really guess what i said from what i wrote, even tho it's literally written in english. But, this doesn't happen if you don't want to understand it at all :)
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Heres a tip for you to write something that is also easy to read without
try reading out loud to yourself to catch simple mistakes while making it legible
"It's named guess and you can really guess"
Just write in small simple words to get points across clearly, it doesn't make someone stupid for not being able to read your chicken scratch it just makes you look like a goob when you point it out.
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So you want a mostly mid tier killer to get nerfed?
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deathslinger is unfun to go agaisnt yes, but he is not "very powerfull", he lacks in map pressure reason why he is getting demolished against rushing SWF, also dead hard gets him good.
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"DEATHSLINGER TOO GOOD FOR SOLO Q PLAYERS??"
This is the title of this discussion, if you dont have anything constructive to say towards it, you just don't. Forums rules
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i want a "mostly mid tier killer" to be more balanced since it is clearly too strong in chases. It could be easier to get chased, but harder in other terms. They could actually buff something else. Things are not just black or whites, there are actually greys in the middle. Just you have to look for them
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And this is why i clearly wrote in the title "too strong for solo q". Saying that he is weak against SWF is like saying nothing at all. Every killer is weak against SWF, it's just SWF that is trash atm. Dead hard is not a thing since there are VPN killers that just steal your dead hard consistently until the next latency update apparently
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SWF scenarios won't get fixed my man, just not realistic.
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So you want to make him bad against solo q and unplayable against swf?
So if picking him after nerv you either have a bad time with him or get completely stomped? Just listen to yourself.
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Yeah he’s awful. Most take M&A which is completely broken on him, and as people have learned him it seems now that no matter what loop you’re at or obstacles you’re near he’s able to easily pull you around it and get the hit.
Add to that his slow speed and lack of map pressure and everygame against him just becomes a camp/tunnel fest against a killer who can camp the hook from a distance and has litte counterplay
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I love playing with The Deathslinger!
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I think he is fine where he is. Making him 115% would make him insane. I think its more like the upper tier killer need to be toned down a notch, so we can get proper nerfs to survivors. A thing that will never happen unless killers get nerfed first. Most killers can still function fairly well if not outright great. But The top 5 killers just outright destroy most survivors. The best of the best survivors arent even statistically relevant. Those are outliers, and beyond sweaty 4man SWF its gonna happen once or twice in 100 games or so.
But if killers get good with those top 5, some being easier than others to learn, most survivors are gonna get stomped. Spirit, Freddy, Nurse, and to a lesser degree, Billy and Oni. If killers know how to play those and try to win. Then they will win a lot more than they will lose.
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As someone who always plays solo when playing survivor, I've personally never had a problem with deathslinger.
While yes his terror radius is low, he's one of the tallest killers and very easy to see from a distance, with the exception of indoor maps. I dont really see how this makes it much different from Myers or ghostface. Adding a humming, a windup or cool down would solidify him being a bad version of huntress.
He gets beaten easily if a survivor keeps out of his LOS as much as possible keeps gaining as much distance as they can and if they prematurely throw a pallet down. He's very good at injuring survivors, downing them he will struggle against survivors who are observant to him.
If you get put with potatoes then any killer can look amazing, it's just knowing how to waste as much time as possible for the killer in chase regardless of wether you escape them or get downed and taking their strengths and weaknesses into account, which deathslinger has many of them
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You could make the same argument for any stealth killer. Just because his TR when combined with monitor is small, doesnt mean its a problem. He still requires LOS on you to shoot you and hes rather large. If he has LOS on you to make the shot, you clearly have LOS on him too. Frankly if you get shot at 18 meters because you didnt see him, you deserve to be shot. Just means you werent paying attention.
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No Freddy was even more insane with the old ruin since he had that and his own slow down build. The games would never end. If you consider nurse to be A- then I fear you have never played a good nurse. Unless you are in a 4man swf there is no hope. Same, but to a lesser degree goes spirit. In regards to Billy, I underestimated how hard they were gonna hit him (one of the reasons I asked people to wait for ptb, was to know how and what we should complain about) and he is at best B tier on the ptb.
In regard to the gens being done too fast. I dont disagree but if they nerf the gens or add more necessary objectives for survivors then, yes vs most killers its gonna be an ok change, but vs those top 5 (as they are right now) then its gonna be a slaughter.
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I don’t get why this thread is just about Mr. YeeHaw. Aren’t a lot of killers ‘too good’ in solo lobbies? I feel like Ghostface, M&A Miguel etc can easily tear through a lot of solo lobbies because of their element of surprise. It doesn’t mean they have to be changed. I’ve gone against a lot of the killers mentioned above when I’m playing by myself and they can be easy to avoid. Spine Chill can pretty much take away all of their power and I feel like almost every lobby I get now has AT LEAST 2 survivors running it.
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Time to nurse death slinger.
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I want him to be balanced :'D And as it is, is not
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it's the opposite. You have to nerf survivors first and then killers xD killers have to make 12 hooks, hit you twice and bring you to the hook (and i'm skipping the hide & seek part) Survivor only has to rush 5 gens and open a door with an entire map of favourable loops and millions of pallets to use and abuse since there is no real slow vault or entity block on it
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With the difference that myers and ghostface have no long-range quickscop mechanic to grab you in after the first easy no tr hit xD
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I played against good nurse and i NEVER feared any of them. Even tho the game was easily won or easily lost i never felt like the game was no-fun or non-challenging instead for me it was the complete opposite. She has normal TR, very long charge on his blinks and very long fatigue after blinking or hitting plus 100% speed. It's the perfect mindgame character that i like to play against. But DS is simply the opposite. You have no fun playing against him and you have no challenge. He comes with no TR -> first hit -> pointblank shot -> down. 10 second chase. Pile this with Pop, M&A and STBFL and you are seriously impossible to play against.
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No because they are all normal M1 killers with no uncounterable ranged attacks. The only way they become op in solo Q is by playing lame and using noed/mori and thats it.
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