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Does Killer Adept need nerfing?

Antrapace
Antrapace Member Posts: 253
edited November 2020 in Feedback and Suggestions

So the survivor adepts are all simple enough to complete at ANY rank, the killer ones however are stupidly hard once you’re ranked high given the fact it requires a merciless victory.

Can someone explain how you’re supposed to pull it off against red rank SWF’s or even solo queuing players when most killers don’t even have any gen slow down perks?

I think brutal killer or just a 4K with each killer rather than merciless would be sufficient.

Post edited by Gay Myers (Luzi) on

Comments

  • DeliciousFood
    DeliciousFood Member Posts: 464

    Vestige of a time where Merciless Victory meant 4K by any means, even if you barely black pipped. It does need a change but it's been adamant for a while now. It really makes getting adept on killers like Clown an absolute nightmare if you're in red ranks.

  • Nosferatu3145
    Nosferatu3145 Member Posts: 542

    Yeah, i got adept with all my killers basically cheating. I kill the first two survivors ASAP and farmed with the other two. But they have to be potatoes to work, so...

  • Antrapace
    Antrapace Member Posts: 253

    I don’t want to use words like that, but yes that’s what I’m thinking along the lines of, either that or don’t play killer for 4 months until I lose my rank from the natural rank reset each month!

  • Antrapace
    Antrapace Member Posts: 253

    I hear what you’re saying, I’ll be able to do clown because of pop and bamboozle plus good add ons, deathslinger and demogorgan however...

  • Pennywise
    Pennywise Member Posts: 257

    The problem with making it 4k instead of merciless is you would just take an ebony mori, so it would be too easy. I agree though that merciless is also too difficult on some killers in red ranks when you compare it to what survivors have to do, which is simply survive the game.

  • Antrapace
    Antrapace Member Posts: 253

    Good point, just a downgrade to brutal killer is good enough. All the survivor ones are as easy as hell, unlimited ways to do them. You could even play horrible and then find or get given the hatch!

  • Kolonite
    Kolonite Member Posts: 1,346

    Yes it needs to be changed, but they aren't going to change it sadly.

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    They could just make it a 4k with the 3 killer specific perks and no offerings for it to work.

  • Pennywise
    Pennywise Member Posts: 257

    Then you are back to it being very difficult at red ranks.

  • Heartbound
    Heartbound Member Posts: 3,255

    Back in yonder day to get killer Adepts you just had to level up and get your 3 perks, and then unlock them as teachables in the bloodweb.

    Just saying.

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452

    The only way of making it easier is to change the definition of Merciless. They won't change the requirement itself i.e. getting a Merciless in order to get Adept, due to constraints on consoles (specifically, because of Sony) which are resistant to allow thropy changes unless they become technically impossible to achieve.

    Notice, though, that funnily enough Adept requires a Merciless Victory, which is indeed not a thing anymore. We can only get Merciless Killer, currently. So, in theory we already would have a technically impossible achievement, if it was coded according to the wording.

  • MeneLaw
    MeneLaw Member Posts: 341

    Killers adept stay the same. Survivor adept will be escape with x survivor on x map, only with his perks.

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,442

    Yes, Killer adept Achievements are unfairly complicated. BHVR KNOWS THIS.

    But BHVR knows it will require a lot of work with providers of Achievement Systems, Sony, Steam, Windows.

    So they hesitate to improve the game here, They absolutely should do it, but its hard.

    We need to push a lot harder on this to make them do it for the good of the game.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,376

    They changed it before so I don't understand why they can't just change it back. I got adept Freddy with 4 DCs and a Brutal Killer victory back in the day.

  • IMhereRUN
    IMhereRUN Member Posts: 606

    Most of the adepts I have were achieved at red ranks. Some more difficult than others...but all very achievable. Here’s some tips to help.

    1. Goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway: map awareness! Know where to be, what gens to protect, which chases to commit/ignore. Super vital as many killers won’t be able to use perks to carry them.
    2. Bring add-ons/offerings. Self-explanatory. Examples would be a bell for the Wraith or a Hawkins map for Pig, etc. Bring the add-ons that best strengthen the killers’ powers but also works with your playstyle.
    3. Dodge lobbies. Don’t be afraid to know when to fold. If you’re going for Adept Hag, ya might wanna dodge a lobby with 3 flashlights unless you’re Legendary God status at M1 killers that have no power moving at 100% speed instead of 115%.
    4. Aim for lots of hits. If survivors are bodyblocking giving a free hit...take it! Never say no to free momentum. You also need to aim for 8 hooks in the match.
    5. Lastly, don’t be afraid to play “dirty”. Sometimes slugging or tunneling will be necessary. Removing a survivor from the match making it a 3v1 greatly influences your chances of winning.
  • valvarez4
    valvarez4 Member Posts: 868

    I told in another post. Survs have easy adepts, pips,.. only because they die a lot, so devs need to give them something so they don't think about that. Do you prefer as killer to pip easily and have 1,5 kills on average? This is what survs have.

  • xenofon13
    xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241
    edited November 2020

    Yesterday late late night i got the adept Myers and Evil Incarnate after 9-10 games in total. Rank 5.

    I was so happy. I went to the bathroom after, and my eyes were red 😂

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,442

    Because its hard to do cause you need to involve all those parties again.

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,339

    It should just be 4k independent of emblems if you ask me. Make it require 4 sacrifices (with DCs counting) if they absolutely want to avoid people using moris to make it "too easy".

    But unless they change the entire end game result (brutal killer, merciless killer and all of that) to be independent of pips and emblems it's probably not gonna happen. As the screenshot above talks about, changing achievements that aren't completely broken and impossible to achieve is a mess especially on consoles.

  • Dabihwow
    Dabihwow Member Posts: 3,409