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Remove Selfcare

Instead of Nerfing the perk, remove it and make it a survivor passive since the devs have shown that they will never nerf it due to the feared backlash.

Why make it passive? Because 99% of survivors who have it will use it anyways even in tier1, the perk is so essential that there's no point in making it a perk, that's like giving the survivors the a perk with the ability to run for 75/85/100% movement speed at this point.

The perk now being passive crank up the time it takes to heal yourself to 35-40 seconds and make the Selfcare Perk increase healing speed with medkits up to 25% in addition to using less charges.

There, survivors have another slot to play around with while selfcare has become more balanced.

Comments

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    What would we put in its place though?

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    The new selfcare being basically the old one on steroids - the heal ofc.

    "Increases efficiency of Medkits by 25/50/75%, additionally healing yourself with a medkit is 15/20/25% faster"

    That way medkits become really really good, selfhealing is reserved for relaxed situations but your medkit will keep you toppfed off.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

    R15+ killers get almost instalobbies tho, source: account of GF.

    They could also remove ranked, it serves no purpose but to divide the playerbase. Buffing survivors is out of the question but by your logic we should consider that to increase their numbers.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

    R15+ killers get almost instalobbies tho, source: account of GF.

    They could also remove ranked, it serves no purpose but to divide the playerbase. Buffing survivors is out of the question but by your logic we should consider that to increase their numbers.

    No simply buff survivors point gain

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758
    edited September 2018

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

    R15+ killers get almost instalobbies tho, source: account of GF.

    They could also remove ranked, it serves no purpose but to divide the playerbase. Buffing survivors is out of the question but by your logic we should consider that to increase their numbers.

    No simply buff survivors point gain

    As surv you already get more points/hour if you equip WGLF, remember that the killer has to sit through the whole match.

    Let's not forget that you keep addons and items if u win

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    But then sloppy butcher won’t feel good to use in my opinion.... I really wish it damaged their bleedout bar though when they’re injured. :(
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

    R15+ killers get almost instalobbies tho, source: account of GF.

    They could also remove ranked, it serves no purpose but to divide the playerbase. Buffing survivors is out of the question but by your logic we should consider that to increase their numbers.

    No simply buff survivors point gain

    As surv you already get more points/hour if you equip WGLF, remember that the killer has to sit through the whole match.

    Killer has BBQ. And survivors points are greatly lower if they don’t escape. Tokens for WGLF are WAY harder to get than BBQ. Also, if you don’t get over 20k as killer, you’re doing something wrong. While survivors get 20k if they min maxed and tried their very hardest.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

    R15+ killers get almost instalobbies tho, source: account of GF.

    They could also remove ranked, it serves no purpose but to divide the playerbase. Buffing survivors is out of the question but by your logic we should consider that to increase their numbers.

    No simply buff survivors point gain

    As surv you already get more points/hour if you equip WGLF, remember that the killer has to sit through the whole match.

    Killer has BBQ. And survivors points are greatly lower if they don’t escape. Tokens for WGLF are WAY harder to get than BBQ. Also, if you don’t get over 20k as killer, you’re doing something wrong. While survivors get 20k if they min maxed and tried their very hardest.

    That’s the point. It’s harder because you have 3 other people helping you out. It shouldn’t be as easy as BBQ
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    There’s currently a shortage of survivors as it is

    Source?

    Playing the damn game as a killer

    Because that lobby bug never existed, because survivors queuing with e.g lowrank survivors totally not make r1 seem having more killers. No that's not an indicator.

    Though I’ve been at rank 1, I’m currently rank 11. Besides, over 30,000 people are bitching about matchmaking for killer. That’s out of 56k on PlayStation. Source: the DbD community for PS4 I mod

    R15+ killers get almost instalobbies tho, source: account of GF.

    They could also remove ranked, it serves no purpose but to divide the playerbase. Buffing survivors is out of the question but by your logic we should consider that to increase their numbers.

    No simply buff survivors point gain

    As surv you already get more points/hour if you equip WGLF, remember that the killer has to sit through the whole match.

    Killer has BBQ. And survivors points are greatly lower if they don’t escape. Tokens for WGLF are WAY harder to get than BBQ. Also, if you don’t get over 20k as killer, you’re doing something wrong. While survivors get 20k if they min maxed and tried their very hardest.

    That’s the point. It’s harder because you have 3 other people helping you out. It shouldn’t be as easy as BBQ

    And that’s why matchmaking is bad. I don’t care about what you think should or shouldn’t be. It’s results that matter. And clearly it being way weaker than BBQ is hurting survivors AND KILLERS

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    Love how you just ignore the fact that survivors keep their addons AND items if they escape making them get up to 15k+ BP in a match

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:
    Love how you just ignore the fact that survivors keep their addons AND items if they escape making them get up to 15k+ BP in a match

    Except that point is eliminated in that killers share points with survivors, and neither need to use either

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

    Again, source?

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

    Again, source?

    1) Press play as killer. 2) wait. Wait forever

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

    Again, source?

    1) Press play as killer. 2) wait. Wait forever

    And that has nothing to do with R1 survivors SWFing with R15-20s and overloading R10+ killers I guess. Oh wait it does because as said on my GF's acc there's no queue, it's about 20secs of waiting.

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

    Again, source?

    1) Press play as killer. 2) wait. Wait forever

    And that has nothing to do with R1 survivors SWFing with R15-20s and overloading R10+ killers I guess. Oh wait it does because as said on my GF's acc there's no queue, it's about 20secs of waiting.

    Luck. There is SOME survivors playing. Some lucky killer has to be the one getting em

  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

    Again, source?

    1) Press play as killer. 2) wait. Wait forever

    And that has nothing to do with R1 survivors SWFing with R15-20s and overloading R10+ killers I guess. Oh wait it does because as said on my GF's acc there's no queue, it's about 20secs of waiting.

    Luck. There is SOME survivors playing. Some lucky killer has to be the one getting em

    Buffing WGLF is still not the answer, esp not by giving survivors auraperks that they don't need, they could make WGLF stack up on getting hit when near another survivor (15-20 metres)

  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,918

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    im really not gonna argue with you if you don't see that. Yes, a few survivors stopped playing this game after the latest nerfs to exhaustion but a ton more ppl started playing the game, the numbers only went up not down. And I don't think people care about BPs THIS much as survivor since you can just focus on your favourite skin and still have all playstyles available to you instead of killers who have to level up each killer to get different playstyles out of this game.

    On PS4, there’s supposed to be about 3x more survivors for matchmaking to work. There’s currently more killers. That is insane.

    Again, source?

    1) Press play as killer. 2) wait. Wait forever

    And that has nothing to do with R1 survivors SWFing with R15-20s and overloading R10+ killers I guess. Oh wait it does because as said on my GF's acc there's no queue, it's about 20secs of waiting.

    Luck. There is SOME survivors playing. Some lucky killer has to be the one getting em

    Buffing WGLF is still not the answer, esp not by giving survivors auraperks that they don't need, they could make WGLF stack up on getting hit when near another survivor (15-20 metres)

    That’s what Ive been saying. Give it another effect for tokens (tokens way to annoying to get) and increase survivor point gain as a whole too