Devs, regarding the future Clown change.
Please don't change the solvent jug - it's a very good addon even if you make it purple just don't remove it. Thanks :)
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Clown doesn’t need it or the pinky finger. I main him and an exhaustion addon is not nessacary on a killer who already dominates chases.
its not like it’s hard to gas survivors so having such a powerful status effect for little effort on the killers part is just not good for the game.
if you were absolutely intent on keeping it it would have to be on direct bottles only and last max 10 seconds
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He does, otherwise he wouldn't be one of the weaker killers.
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It is a gas though, imo exhausted or blinded should just be a part of it no addon necessary. So just asking to not remove the addon is the lesser evil here lol
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+1 here, If you remove it it's just a gas that slows down a little - freddy can do this already a lot more often, more effectively aswell as teleport - clown neds something to make him not so alike to other killers
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By experience I'd say clown's "weakness" comes from the fact that when people play clown they completely shut down their brain, just toss bottles everywhere and then chase without an ability. On red ranks you can sometimes actually see people using the clown very effectively to ruin loops and complete chases fast (or at least chew through every single pallet in an area). Clown does lack mobility though, but certainly isn't the only killer that has to walk around
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Those with weaker powers are right at the bottom - clowns is good in chase but all you have to do is pre-drop pallets, nothing much he can do, just like wraith, trapper etc.
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If he needs exhaustion to be good that’s a sign it needs to be removed so he can be buffed properly
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If he's buffed properly and doesn't need it then fine - currently I think he needs it.
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Exhaustion Add Ons are outdated and should be removed.
Direct Bottle Hits are not hard to get, especially not since Clown does not get any Slowdown after throwing anymore. And well, a maximum of 10 seconds would still mean that the Survivor is exhausted for the whole chase. It does not really matter if Exhaustion Add Ons make someone exhausted for 10 seconds or 10 minutes, since the Timer does not go down while being chased/running.
And in regards to pinky Finger, yes. Since Clown does not slow down anymore after a throw, it is really easy to get direct Hits, so I think the only reason why not many people complained so far is because they dont see Clowns on a regular basis.
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Exhaustion addons are not outdated at all, they're very useful to this day.
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They were created in a time where Exhaustion went down while running. This is not the case anymore, making Exhaustion Add Ons way stronger than before. You should not be able to negate entire Perks for just 3-5k BPs.
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I think keeping Solvent Jug as an Exhaustion-inflicter would be fine if they raise its rarity (to green or purple) and SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE its duration. 30 seconds is a drastic amount of Exhaustion to be easily inflicted on a whim. It should be decreased to cause around 5-10 seconds of Exhaustion max.
Same thing should happen with Huntress's Venomous Concoction; drop its duration to 5-10 seconds (because holy cow is 90 seconds ridiculous) and retire/replace the Berus Toxin.
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I don't want them to buff him because I still don't know how to loop him. I need to learn before his buff.
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Exhaustion add ons don't have a place in the game anymore, when Huntress's and Clown's exhaustion add ons were introduced, exhaustion recovered while running. It no longer does and so exhaustion perks can only be used once per chase when previously, they could be used multiple times per chase. So now what exhaustion add ons do is completely remove a perk all game for a survivor (unless it's Sprint Burst), which isn't very healthy for the game.
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I think they're still needed and not outdated, considering the strength of exhaustion perks, one dead head can recover a failed mistake and drag on chases an extra 30 + seconds. They're strong addons, should be purple, 10-15 seconds.
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That's more an issue of exhaustion perks per se. And they aren't all that strong or problematic. DH is also seeing a recoding as far as we know. It doesn't really fix the issues because it only does something in very specific circumstances etc.
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That addon is gone for sure. All the addon that hinder survivors second chances are gone.
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You absolutely should. Everything should have a hard counter.
I'd be all for Clown having a baseline ability that creates exhaustion.
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Outdated Addon's Design. Needs to be 5-10 seconds max.
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the list goes on but sure.
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I’d be very surprised if they did remove Solvent Jug without giving Clown additional means of pressure. Exhaustion perks hurt Clown more than other killers simply because his only means of pressure IS THE CHASE. Without fast downs he simply cannot create alternative types of pressure for the survivors to keep those out of a chase occupied with things other than gens, except of course helping those that were downed or hooked.
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You can’t loop him.
Just run, or play stealthy to avoid a chase in the first place.
You can only loop potato Clowns that waste bottles in stupid places.
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Unfortunately it’s probably going to be removed. Too many Survivors rely on them for crutches. It sucks seeing a Survivor that keeps vaulting at the wrong time get saved because of Lithe. No skill there whatsoever, just a bad play being covered up by an Exhaustion perk. Doctor already lost his (although he gained a LOT in return), and Clown and Huntress will likely join him.
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He’s already great in chase so they should probably buff his other aspects instead of having another deathslinger situation
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He's not great in chase, stop spreading misinformation.
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I’ve maimed him since I got the game last year so I think I know what I’m talking about. Even without add ons he can render loops like shack, cow tree and other map specific loops useless. He can also zone survivors out of loops and force them into bad areas.
just because most clowns mindlessly spam bottles at people doesn’t mean he’s bad
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I'm a rank 1 killer, have been for a while. I play every killer but mainly projectile killers I.E clown/huntress. Clown is not great in chase. Yes he can slow survivors down at loops but a survivor can still get 1 loop out of it and pre-drop the pallet. This is why most clowns run brutal.
He's much better with addons I.E Flask of Bleach + Solvent Jug. I'd say they're needed.
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Add ons are great on him yes especially bleach but people really underestimate the slowdown and how long he can keep survivors slowed. I agree he is weaker than a lot of killers but he definitely isn’t bad
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