Remove aura reading from BBQ. It's ridiculous at this stage in the game's life.
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It honestly depends on what killers you face and what rank they are I usually see legions run it(which I don't blame them as it works well with feral frenzy)
Like how many others said before it's mostly used for BP farming moreso the aura info
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Survivors can use Barbecue & Chili too, i.e. for rescues. I do not, as a general rule, jump into a locker when I know I'm far enough away to be revealed (unless I'm almost done with a Gen. and don't want it kicked). The point is that I know the Killer will be coming my way, I have all the head start I need, and I can choose my tiles. This will buy time for the rescuers and it will also bring the Killer to the part of the map that I want him to be on. I often, just as I do when I run Deliverance, start heading for the cleared, most distant part of the map when I see someone being picked up (and I suspect or know Barbecue & Chili is in play). I want the Killer to be as far out of position as possible, and I can make that happen simply by letting him "see" me.
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Except avoiding old DS can cost you the game as killer, but as survivor standing still, working on a generator, getting in a locker, etc. to avoid BBQ will not.
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I think this is the most ridiculous thing I have read so far. Only a newbie would say this.
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Imagine comparing a info/BP farming perk that's perfectly balanced to a get out of jail free perk that was used outside of its intended purpose
(Insert laughing gif here)
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I learned how to work around bbq just by reading the perk info on leatherface lmao and playing a few games with it
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Did you actually call that cherry picking?
You almost always see the auras of some survivors with BBQ. It's surprisingly rare when you don't, and when that happens, yes, it makes perfect sense to hang around the hook. Anything else would literally be handing the survivors an unhook.
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Killer hooks someone and immediately runs to my location on the other side of the map? I know he's running BBQ and jump into a locker every time someone gets down.
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Me expecting bbq and seeing a hook icon pop over a fellow survivors icon:
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OP's going to get their mind blown when they find out that Survivors have a perk that give them almost the exact same reward for completing their objective.
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This right here proves how entitled you are.
Also I hate to break it to ya bud, but using a perk is not cheating.
Git gud.
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Either, the killer gets info on where people are and leaves the hook, or he has no info of where to go and camps. Do survivors really want killers to camp more?
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Simple solution, just stop camping and go patrol gens like you're supposed to... I love how everyone here is so one track minded they can't even see how flawed their logic is... it's comical as hell how blind you all are.
Pun intended...
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This is legit suggesting that aura reading perks are too OP. ######### it let’s remove half the killers perks because you think aura reading is too much of a crutch even when it rewards killers for doing their main objective. If you think that something like bbq is crutch then i just know that you like to play immersed since getting chased by the killer is the only fun part about surv at this point.
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You really going to diss everyone like that when it’s so obvious that you don’t want to be found by the killer and sit on gens for 10 mins?
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Wow it is so clear how you play this game it’s hilarious. I just know that you were a person that cried on twitter that ds is getting nerfed
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Use their senses? What game have you been playing dude. What sense should a killer use to find a p3 claud sitting in a corner somewhere pretty much invisible. Have you ever played killer? I’m guessing if you have you probably played one match at rank 20 got a 4k and thought that you didn’t need perks to destroy everyone.
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Yea lmao let’s just start calling dark sense a crutch perk
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But but "I only use BBQ for the BP."
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BBQ is fine on most killer. but usually too good for killer that has speed or teleporting ex: freedy spirit billy. but not too much OP sometimes it fun to get killer chasing you
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You realise it give the opportunity to go for the hook save whilst he goes after someone.
The perk provides an incentive to leave the hook and hunt down other survivors, it rewards killers for their objective.
If you think its OP ,you are either bias or delusional.
It can be countered in various ways , perk called distortion, can be countered by going in a locker, hiding behind a gen, running one way then the opposite way. It has so many ways of playing around it.
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Plus, pretend you're going to one place, but got to other what. You will be deceiving the killer.
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It isn't that bad tho, it's very counterable. But I do admit that there should be some way to know if the killer has BBQ so you don't have to play paranoid all matches.
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The only work around DS is waiting 60 ######### seconds.
Oh and don't even use the "don't tunnel"excuse.
I got ds'd at the 59th second while they were working on a generator and I was in 2 other chases before that so I clearly wasn't tunneling
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You can’t call BBq a crutch since it requires the killer to actually down someone, ya know play the game? Its a reward for hooking survivors, wanna counter it? Dont get downed
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LMAO it is very funny post. HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED KILLER?
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thanks for being smart
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Oh that's a good one how about I give a solution to you
Ahem
How about you don't stay around one area and do gens or go save your teammates like you're supposed to do instead of crying over a balanced perk on the forums
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If BBQ is cheating, wouldn't kindred also be cheating because it gives even more information to all survivors?
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And you know what's funny it's how they defend ds one of the most crutch survivor perks to exist but cries and moans over a little aura revealing perk that rewards BP for hooking survivors like do they not see how hypocritical they are being?
It's very obvious that post saying they played during the beta and has tons of time as both killer and survivor is a blatant lie to try and sound like they know what they're doing when it's VERY clear that they don't they are probably the Claudette that hides in the corners of the map petrified of playing the game
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BBQ also helps when the last survivor is deep into immersion and just crouches behind a tree for 30 minutes, taking the game hostage.
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It's comments like these that make me realize everyone commenting on this thread has an I.Q. of zero... they did away with "hostage" crap when they allowed the killer to close the hatch. :/ Like seriously? All of you are grasping at straws to defend wallhacks and it's kind of pathetic really..
yeah alright whatever, the aura reading is fine, you all love cheating instead of patroling gens and using your headphones to listen for stuff... gotcha... moving on.
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how do people still think the aura reveal on BBQ was OP in 2021?
seriously, it has so much counterplay to it AND is only usable for the aura reading on a handfull of killers...
and it lures killers away from hooks i might add.
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That's right champ, it isn't you that's crazy, it is the rest of the world. They won't accept your reality. :) Oh wait, that doesn't make sense.... yeah it is you that is wrong/crazy.
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I bet you also complain about devour undying
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How the hell is BBQ "cheating"? Are you listening to yourself? What do you even mean by "patrolling gens and using headphones"? Do you even know how this perk works? It's not like it gives you wallhacks for a whole match, it literally gives you an idea where a survivor might be from a heck ton of meters away. You can EASILY hide or change your position as a survivor. I don't really get why are you crying so much about a perk that is so easy to counter. I bet you were the one who cried the most when they added undying. Stop complaining and just get better at the game, survivors have a lot of meta perks that I bet you use every match. The only one here with zero IQ is you, and that's pretty sad to see.
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You do realize insults aren't going to get you anywhere mister in game mechanics are cheats
How about you stop being a hypocrite with what perks are broken and abused and which aren't because bbq is perfectly fine now if you have a real complaint on another killer perk(because let's face it you think all the survivor perks are balanced and never abused) shoot because at this point I'm curious on all the broken perks there are also inb4 you suggest ruin and a majority of other aura revealing perks
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I think he doesn't know how to play well. Maybe low rank player.
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bbq has like 438 counters, stop crying
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Ok then, let's also remove aftercare, alert, babysitter, dark sense, kindred and object of obsession since you think wallhacks are OP. Everyone here can tell that you're an entitled surv main that can't run the killer for ######### and is crying about not being able to play immersed. You're saying that we are grasping at straws? You're not even making solid arguments on why BBQ should be nerfed you're just saying that wallhacks are op. Just because one entitled person thinks that aura reading is op doesn't mean that the devs will remove a whole aspect of the game. Good luck when ds and object gets nerfed!
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Ok buddy, you have 3500 hours on this game and you're saying that bbq is op? Thought that survs with a lot of hours could run the killer for more than two seconds for some reason.... Oh well you're the proof that not all ppl with a lot of hours on this game are actually good. If 4 seconds of aura reading for doing your objective op then why don't i see any discussions about dark sense needing a nerf? Oh yeah because it doesn't and neither does bbq. IF (and that's a big IF) you have 3500 hours on this game ten you should know that the killer can only chase one person at a time. During that chase the 2 other survs are free to do whatever they want. One usually goes for the save and one will be on a gen but wait! You want at least 4 people on gens constantly and the killer roaming around like a dumbass don't you? Ah well can't complain with that logic then :)
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This proves that you have never played killer at high ranks. When killers don't see someone with bbq they usually think everyone went into a locker (myself included) then they go back to patrolling gens or taking 10 ######### seconds to check around a bush or two. Your arguments are so weak but you're so entitled that you can't even grasp the fact that you're wrong. Play another game if you think that ######### is op dude.
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"LeT mE GiT tHiS sTRaIgHt"
Please. I'm so tired of half-wits conjuring up as much crap as they can to avoid admitting they use bbq to make hunting as easy as possible. Killers are not viable without it anymore.
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Same is true for you. Anyone over the age of 12 using "git gud" unironically should probably look for more social circles.
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Almost like DS no?
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Nah ds is perfectly balanced according to these guys how dare we call out an abused perk over a balanced perk that a bunch use for BP more than the aura reading
It's bbq that's the broken perk
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Yeah my bad man i can't believe that i dare insult how perfectly balanced ds is
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You can counter that by being stealthy if you don't like chases. I use kindred so I can see when a killer is coming my way. I wait 5 seconds, then I walk in a different direction, usually to the hooked person. It sounds weird but for me it's easier to not get seen when they use BBQ
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Bbq has a ton of replacements. Right off the bat: Thrilling Tremors, Surveillance, and Bitter Murmur.
Bbq is a perfectly balanced perk with a bunch of counter play. If you refuse to do it, then that's on you.
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Like there are better aura revealing perks legit it's balanced and the only reason why it's used over the other perks is because of how useful it is paired with the bp bonus
Hell I would still use it if was just a 2x-3x BP perk
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