Deliverance rework

Laurie_Struddle
Laurie_Struddle Member Posts: 16
edited February 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

Okay, don't get me wrong, I love Deliverance, but I hate it some times too.

As someone who (has to) play solo 95% of the time (Rank 1 surv), Deliverance is by far one of my favorite perks those times because of how it allows you to not care about how dumb or selfish your teammates are, you just get hooked, and get off right away, plus, it gives you points, and with DS, it's very juicy

But. There are frustrating things in DBD for sure, but playing as a P3 Claudette, hiding and not doing a gen until someone is found (to get Deliverance on), and still being found first and having absolutely no value out of the perk sometimes is kinda disgusting. Self care does not require to heal someone else to heal yourself after that, neither does Prove thyself require you to get a gen done to activate.

Today Deliverance having that condition is beyond stupity, if I could resume it it would be : Unlucky = F*ck your perk

Remove that condition. I dont even care if to be balanced we need to change the broken state to like 120 seconds, as long as I can use the perk I brought because I would like to be able to use it

Comments

  • FilthyLegionMain
    FilthyLegionMain Member Posts: 1,148

    I agree. even though i do like how it promotes altruism. Maybe the perk could replace struggle for only attempting to escape.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Deliverance would be more OP then original pre-rework DS if it didn't have that condition. There would have to be incredibly hude disadvantage to balance it out, much much bigger then 120s of broken which is nothing compared to free self unhook every match.

    Don't change deliverance at all, it's in a perfect spot of having very strong effect with reasonable activation condition keeping it in check.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167

    No offense but if you stay around hiding without doing a gen waiting for someone to go down so you can use Deliverance you deserve nothing but to get found first.

  • Trashmaster
    Trashmaster Member Posts: 357

    Deliverance has a perfect activation mechanism, though I think it applying broken is most of the time just pointless and should be replaced with a different debuff/status

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    Deliverance is perfect just how it is. It is a prime example of how balanced the other second chance perks should be.

    It can be very strong, but it comes with a risk and a requirement for such a strong effect. None of which are requirements that any of the other second chance perks have but should.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    hiding and not doing a gen until someone is found (to get Deliverance on), and still being found first and having absolutely no value out of the perk sometimes is kinda disgusting

    Why are you hiding and not doing a gen until someone is found? You are an active disservice to your team.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Equipping such a strong perk doesn't mean you should get to use it. Right now, Deliverence is probably the most balanced second chance perk thanks almost entirely to its activation requirement, although it's synergy with DS is extremely questionable.

  • Laurie_Struddle
    Laurie_Struddle Member Posts: 16

    No offense but if you run Deliverance and directly get on a gen only to be suprised to get found first and not being able to use Deliverance you only deserve to be found first

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    If you choose to slow down your team for such a selfish reason, it is you who deserves to be found first.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167

    One thing is being stealthy and avoid danger and another is doing nothing until someone goes down. I try to not get spotted the first and Im always the first one abandoning the gen when Spine Chill activates but I dont stay doing nothing until someone gets down.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,511

    Deliverance needs a condition, because if all 4 survivors could run Deliverance it would impossible for killers to create pressure in the early game as every survivor would get off their first hook. This would only create a situation where killers are forced to proxy camp so they can down the deliveranced survivor.

    Deliverance in it's current state is fine. It has a good reward for it's activation condition and there's always the risk you don't get a chance to use it. If you want a more reliable way to unhook yourself without running deliverance then you might be interested in running Slippery Meat instead.

  • Laurie_Struddle
    Laurie_Struddle Member Posts: 16

    No of course i'll just wait until I can clearly see that someone has been hit to get on a gen or if I can see in the distance someone being chased, but if I have no clue about where the killer is and is he busy, sorry but I'm hiding. After all dont forget what I said, if you're doing that for mates that werent gonna come and save you if you didnt have Deliverance, well I dont care about them and I can let them get found