Jesus Christ will you people calm the hell down for 5 minutes
look, I get it, New UI isn't great and is scattershot as hell, the new animations are stiff and if I can go one game without some sort of random hitbox tomfoolery whether it be killers with extendo-arms or weapons phasing through survivors I would buy a lottery ticket, but all I've seen on the forums is 2 groups of people angrily yelling at each other like they're planning to go to war.
Just.. take a deep breath and calm down, make a cup of coffee, put on some low-fi jazz, and argue with actual discussion instead on yelling like a group of drunken frat boys arguing over which girl is prettier
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I disagree. Devs need to see the rage, or they’ll never understand how big they messed up.
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I'm pretty calm about the changes now tbh. Started playing some functional games, and decided to take a break from DbD and just watch the train wreck until BHVR finally decide to get a grip and listen to their community.
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How some dumbasses go dress themselves up as legion. Crash into the office and go nuts on everyone, mori them. Some people are so crazy they can go to such lengths anyway.
(I was being sarcastic, don't do that and hurt innocent lives)
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I agree with this too, if the devs don't see how badly the ######### up with this update then nothing will change but it is pretty tedious seeing the entire front page of the forum being the same thing "update bad please revert" but with different names
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No, people need to stop acting like a snotty ungrateful 8 year old who didn’t get the super nice expensive toy that they wanted for Christmas. It’s safe to assume most people here on the forums are over 18+ years of age yet they’re still acting like a 8 year old over a HUD system.
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If colorblind people calmed down, they would've got nothing from this company.
BHVR's track record shows us that calming down is definitely not the way to go.
If you want to be passive and submissive, that's your call.
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I agree with you as well, but the devs didn´t even saw there mistakes in the past.
I just can hope they will someday wkae up
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Yeah so what? They changed the bones of the game they loved for the past 4-5 years, and you think they are wrong to be whining on a childish level? That will never be as childish as the devs intended deafness in releasing this distasterpiece. Honestly I’m being childish too, I don’t care how people behave, I just want the game I bought 5 times back.
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Ok, to make it clear:
Devs changed something which nobody asked about. They bring a PTB for Feedback. 90% dont like it. They STILL bring it to live.
Explanation: They want to see what Console players think so that everyone can test out the new UI. Meanwhile: They say that there is no going back.
And you really cannot get why the Community is pissed?
This is basically: We change something. You dont like it, we still change it. We pretend that we listen for the feedback later, but in fact, we cannot do anything about it anyway.
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You missed the god pallet issue on the game map btw, about 90% of pallets are safe on that map (can be reacted to just by waiting at the pallet, no baits etc required)
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While true, simply yelling into the ether doesn't solve anything, and that's all the last day on the forums has been, yelling into the ether and offering no fixes or anything, screaming at the devs solves nothing, making it clear the devs made massive blunders and offering ways to fix it is
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I’ve never had the devs back or side in the updates they’ve threw at us because something bad always happens. But at this rate, and with all the whining, the devs are more mature than the player base at this moment. I used to have the mindset that they were immature when it came to the core of Dead By Daylight but it’s now the opposite. Yeah no one asked for this but they didn’t ask you or anyone else if they’re allowed to because you know what? , It’s THEIR game NOT YOURS and they have a right to do things the way they want when they want.
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They want us to stop! If we stop then they'll think we're now fine with it!
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this rage happens with literally every single update. it's common place now
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I mean technically seeing as majority bought the toy to begin with and then their parents smashed it to bits, I'd say rage, anger, disbelief are all fair.
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Oh of course they can do whatever they want. They also have the right to play the game with the 5 people who will be left if they don’t do anything, of course.
Just a note: it’s also my game, I paid for it, they ruined it, and I have the right to be pissed off :)
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Its different tho.
Most of the time, discussions come up with Balance Decisions. And this is just logical, the side which gets nerfed wants not to be weaker while the other side is fine with it and vice-versa.
However, when you have something which is not a Balance Decision and there is that much negative feedback, Devs should hear the alarm bells.
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The yelling is a natural consequence of the talking (ptb feedback) falling upon deaf ears. If you can't be heard speaking normally, then you need to take it up a notch.
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First time?
Usually when a patch comes out this type of backlash is typical its the way that most players critique new updates.
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Nope, can’t let the devs do dumb stuff
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I wouldn't be calling people "snotty ungrateful 8 year old brats" for not liking the HUD. During the PTB (Which is to test things and GIVE FEEDBACK on the changes before they go live) multiple people (Streamers, Fog Whisperers, and regular players) were saying the changes were unnecessary (so when the changes went live people weren't going to like the changes), and some made better versions of the HUD system.
I guess all the people who didn't like the update where they updated auras were also "snotty ungrateful 8 year old brats".
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Yeah but that’s the thing, sure, people didn’t ask for the new HUD and they don’t like it but it’s THEIR game. They make the final decision not us. We’re not their parents, they don’t need to be asking us for permission for every little thing. You can’t get upset over things like this when there are games that do things much worse than this. I’ll compare DBD to my 2nd favorite game, Mortal Kombat 11. Boy, oh boy was I pissed when I found out they randomly nerfed my favorite character mileena when she needed buffs and no one complained about her. Mind you, there’s no PTB for this and this was set in stone without warning. People are just ungrateful and that’s matter of the fact.
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keep calm so the dev get some slack for the horrible decision they make for 4+ patch....yea no i will keep the pressure on
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it really isn't.
@tippy2k2 put it best
Everything has always been the worst thing that has ever happened and everyone is quitting the game in protest every week. The DBD Forum in a nutshell (hell, I've been guilty myself of an angry post or 10 about wanting to quit forever after a bunch of awful games).
nothing that is happening here is unnusual
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omg the toxic milenna community is coming to dbd, i need to leave asap
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I entirely get why the community is pissed about this update, here's the problem though, that's all the last day has been focused on, the UI and Animations
Lets compare them
UI: Complaints about it take up literally the entire first page
Animations: Complained about just as much if not slightly less
Hitboxes: Surprisingly not mentioned as often as i was expecting
The fact that The Game spontaneously generated a extra 4 god pallets?: almost non existent
Random structures on Crotus not having hitboxes?: nothing
bugged emblems?: might as well not exist
I'm just a bit sick of hearing people scream about the same 2 things when there's a myriad of other things to complain about you know?
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We also have the right, as consumers of a product, to share disdain for decisions and withhold money going forward. When you create a service and charge people for it then you deserve to be held accountable for those decisions.
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People have a right to be angry/upset. This was something no one asked for. Instead of actual fixes, they pushed an update out that had overwhelming negative feedback on it, ignoring the community. People have sunk hundreds and thousands of hours into this game. No one should be sugarcoating/walking on eggshells. Clearly a lot of us are very upset with the devs and the team behind this game. Letting them know, regardless of how many threads, is the right answer.
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Yeah, it is THEIR game but the players fill THEIR pockets. DBD is the first game ever which managed to give me a headache yesterday evening with the new UI. I will 100% play less, because I simply cannot stand to sit in front of the PC feeling sick just because I am playing a game which I actually like a lot.
And the big thing is, DBD has no real competition, so saying that other games do worse does not really make sense. What do I care if a Figher game does something worse when the only Asymmetrical Multiplayer Horrorgame does something?
And since you mention a PTB - what was the PTB for? Obviously not for feedback, it was to hype the new content. There is no point for the PTB if the Devs ignore the feedback after 90% said that they hate the new UI.
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You tried this whole “ungrateful” thing in your post. It was panned there as it will be here. The game was not given to us, we paid for it. No matter how many times you try this line of thought, it won’t make any more sense than the last time to tried it.
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People didnt ask for that change, you are right. But they kept asking for things that might make this change nessessary. A LOT of people want to buff solo survivors to swf level informationwise. So the hud needed to change. Maybe not in the way they choose, but you cant display additional information by leaving everything like it was.
It is just that people dont know what it takes to deliver the things they demand. More information, but dont change the ui? show me how its done.
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Then it would be a big communication-problem. Because from what they added, they would not need to change anything from the old UI.
If they have things which make it 100% mandatory to change the HUD, they should show them. But currently, we only have a lie from the Devs - either they are lying that they want to have feedback from the community when it is live or they are lying that they cannot change it back.
EDIT: In general, if you want to change something you show all the cool stuff you want to add. And not just a re-distribution of the already existing content.
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Well, a user in another thread said they have announced this was the first step to add further informations. But i haven´t seen anyone else commenting on that or anything from the devs about that matter, so i cant confirm it. But i still think this is because they going into that direction.
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They didn't mess up big, though. The state of the Binding of Kin DLC at launch? That was a big mess up. This is a purely cosmetic issue that is more of a matter of personal taste than anything else. I don't love the HUD, but it's fine. You'd think the devs murdered everyone's dogs with how the reaction has been on the forum. This is the forum crying wolf about the devs destroying their game and I feel it's just giving them less reason to take feedback seriously when something really is broken.
People notoriously hate any UI changes, regardless of whether or not they're good or bad, until they get used to them. That's worth considering when considering lots of day 1 hate for a new HUD.
If people would actually frame their arguments well and stay civil instead of just angrily spamming about things that would be a lot more constructive and helpful for the developers.
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And no matter what you say I’m still not going to change my mind. What are you trying to prove? Ya know there’s other people who are fine with the update. Quit trying to bash on others for liking the hud and giving their reasoning as to why it shouldn’t be complained about.
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the forum gave them constructive feedback on what to do and even made some mock interfaces to show what we want. all was ignored.
All that is left is to rage at them.
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Exactly. I'm more pissed about the blatant lying then I am the patch itself.
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Like how you're bashing people for not liking this update?
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The ones that are bashing are the people who don’t like this update which is almost everybody. They’re bashing the devs and being rude to people who are okay with it. Funny thing is, people tend to get mad and react when they hear the truth. Do you think I’m shocked people are hating on me cause I speak the truth?
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Nobody was bashing on anyone until you joined and called everyone ungrateful children. Devs unfortunately are a large company and will get backlash
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Have you even seen the 4.5.0 PTB feedback section?
There was a TON of good feedback why this new UI is bad,but BHVR choosed to ignore it,said they want to also gather feedback from the console players,but then suddenly told us that it's apparently not possible to revert the changes??
I'm sorry but BHVR doesn't care about the feedback from its playerbase and that's why people are so insanely angry right now.
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I've never been hysterical about the HUD. I've always pointed out how it is objectively a bad design, along with some snark. But I'm not going to lose my mind or insult them, that just defeats my argument and makes it easy to ignore.
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Yeah I called people ungrateful children do you want to know why? Because people need to learn to be appreciative of what they have. Be happy you’re still here another day, be happy you food to eat, be happy you have a roof under your head etc. just like with DBD, be happy you still have a game to play to get stuff off your mind or whether you play it just for fun. Some people can’t even afford this game. I cannot begin to imagine people who are at an adult age who act like this when they don’t get something they want. That being said, I was getting called names such as. “Dick rider” on my thread. Oh wait, you don’t care about what names people are called unless it’s yourself or the people your siding with.
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I'm not referring to the other thread, because it's no better of you to be called those things and then come to this thread and do the exact same thing. People have spent 100s of dollars on this game, and as a consumer they have the right to be furious
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I've only played 12 games (4 survivor/8 killer).
I am pretty indifferent about the UI.
I am pretty indifferent about the locomotion (more positive than negative though)
The hit boxes on both sides have been a bit wonky, but more killer favored for sure.
The game is very much playable. Adjust your play. Don't greed pallets.
Honestly, it's no surprise that an extremely toxic player base is acting toxic toward the developers. None of these changes are game breaking or even close to game breaking.
If you feel that it is, find something new to play for a while. A healthy break from a game doesn't hurt anyway.
So much complaining about the most mundane #########. I feel like I'm living on a different planet than most of you.
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Quit trying to defend them like the community is being privileged. We don't WANT anything but a successful game. They are fixing stuff that was never broke. The old HUD was the one good thing they nailed. Now? Unplayable I refuse to play this game til they wake up. Hope plenty do the same. They can fail and be stubborn or actually listen to people spending 1000s of hours knowing what they are talking about.
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I think people are behaving appropriately over the situation. I'm drinking my coffee calmly as I read what everyone is still saying about the update, hoping the devs will fix it or at least respond. :)
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I haven't seen anyone bash people for liking it. I've asked multiple people why they like it and all of them have not given an actual argument, or one that even works, for this specific HUD. It is objectively bad game design and I want to know why people like it and I want a good argument to support it because, as it stands, saying it is "fine" or "you'll get used to it" isn't enough and doesn't excuse the poor choices made for the new HUD. It's fine if you like it, but why do you like it. I want to know.
Also, you don't speak the truth. Sorry for speaking the truth.
@OniWantsYourMacaroni Replying to notstarboard is a waste of time. They are a contrarian and (possibly) a troll.
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