Make Your Mind Up Survivors
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As someone already mentioned you had to pressure survivors as well; resting on your laurels was never gonna work unless against potatoes. OK transfered so many times was maybe ott but ruin is near dead. All I'm saying is take away tools and killers will resort to camping and/or tunnelling. Then in a few months we'll see even more posts about camping and tunnelling on the forum. I stand by what I said if in the hands of a competent killer ruin undying was good for the game
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Exactly my thoughts. It was healthy in the game by giving killers tools to combat gen rushing. Take that away and as mentioned killers will result to other methods
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If survivors are getting all the gens done in 2-3 minutes you're probably a terrible killer.
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It wasn't healthy for solo players :)
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Have you ever played killer in red ranks vs a swf on comms?
Trust me, no matter how good you are as killer, might even be the best in the world, gens still can go within 3 minutes while 1 of them is getting chased.
I had a game and found a survivor 20 seconds after I could move, downed him in about 15s.
By the time I hooked him 3 gens popped, so that's about a minute after I could move.
How does that makes me a bad killer than?
If they didn't F up the rest of the match the game would be over in 3 minutes after start.
I have to agree to disagree with you on that.
I always play solo and never had any problems with it.
On very, very, very rare occasions you had to cleanse all 5 totems, but the average was 3 totems max.
And as I said earlier if they took away the aura reading, the change would be fine.
But i didn't even bother about the aura reading as I used it at my advantage to distract the killer.
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Look there's someone who understands.
It's hard for some people to face the ugly truth about gen speeds.
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The killer needed a single down and an entire generator would completely regress. That's not healthy.
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Agree, but I'm pretty sure you've seen people talk that that is not possible or doesn't happen.
And if it does happen than that is on you, because you didn't pressure enough.
I usually get games as killer to take up to around 15 minutes, but sometimes you are completely powerless and you get rushed like a mother F
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If that gen fully regress, than that is on you and your team.
A gen doesn't fully regress from downing 1 survivor.
If 1 survivor got chased of of it, than immediately go on it and continue.
Or just go do another gen when that is not possible, it is completely on you.
He keeps chasing him?
Than you have plenty of time to find the hexes
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Yeah, for those who claim that losing gens that quickly only happens to bad killers, Otz has the following video where the first gen was completed in *27 seconds* on him, one of the top-tier players.
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Ya dont get it.
Their point isn't to have a fair and balanced game, their point is to make sure the killer is as powerless as possible to do anything that would get in their way. The last thing they want is to have to adapt to the killer, they just want to do some simple looping for a bit, then get back to the gen.
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The idea is that most survivor just want to play against an NPC or have a single human they can bully.
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Yeah, it's so much healthier what we have now. Where killers get 3 hooks by the time survivors complete 4 gens.
/s
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Hahaha I was not attacking you mate, if any I was agreeing with you.
So calm down 😉
I play every single killer and for me 15 minutes are more common than the 2 to 7 minutes games.
And i play as a rank 1 killer.
Might be my playstyle that can keep it up this long in combo with certain perks and add ons maybe.
Sure sometimes it is hard to get it to there.
I even went against a deathsquad I believe they call it?
They rushed the 4 gens in not time, so i was about to give up.
But they came to the gen where I just stopped.
I was wraith btw.
So i just what the heck why not and went full try hard on them.
Got them all down but yeah what are you gonna do against 4x ub?
Managed to stretch it to 10 minutes for the last gen to be finished
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Ah ok, sorry it looked like you got mad at me for saying it or something.
But that's the thing about text, you can't always feel the emotion behind it.
But yeah i agree, it is a excuse some people will throw at you without any knowledge.
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I've seen gen rush been thrown about like its not the only focus of survivors, not every game has a full swf genrushing a lot of the time it's a bunch of solo survs that got lucky with each other. I have seen a bunch of posts of people complaining that gens get done too fast but the majority of solo survivor games i get put in i either have to try do 3 gens by myself at least while people are contently been hooked or hiding.
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Yeah and on the flip end you have matches that last three to four minutes because you absolutely decimated. I got a one minute forty three second match yesterday (I counted when watching it back) as wraith without ruin or undying or pop.
I'm not saying you aren't right but I think you're being a bit extreme
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have you ever considered you suck at the game? 4 man sfw sweat team is hard, but 1/100 games you get one. I hate the mentality you should be fed a win. Pick a top tier and actually TRY and you will win 80%-90% of your games. even with low tier killers you can still win most of the time you just have to play SMART, and not just w+m1 at all survivors. I hate how people just blame their lack of skill on the game, you're just garbage get better and stop complaining.
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Lotta people in this thread bad at math.
Losing 3 gens in 5 minutes does not make you a bad Killer. It means the Survivors are coordinated as heck, and probably watching one of their teammates waste your time while they do it.
No Killer has the power to be in two places at once. You can only ever chase one Survivor at a time. It is not possible to pressure all five generators AND still have chases on Survivors that result in downs. Any competent Survivor team will prove that.
Any game that ends with 4K and all 5 gens up means the Survivors botched HARD.
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And yet that's not how it plays out in reality unless it's a full SWF team than can tell each other these things.
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Survivors crying nerfs? I think you're mistaken.. Killers are the Kings of begging for nerfs.
Survivor Nerfs: Exhaustion -> Insta Heals -> Borrowed Time -> Balanced Landing -> Infinites -> Gen Speeds (Repair times, Toolboxes & Addons) -> Hook Saboing -> More Map Nerfs -> Decisive Strike (x50) -> Object of Obsession -> And now they're going after Dead Hard.
Killer Nerfs: Ruin, PGTW(15 seconds is hardly a nerf), Mori's, Undying (Even though it's now stronger with Huntress Lullaby and Devour Hope)
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Really I can't get my teammates in solo queue to do gens so idk what y'all talking about with gen rushing.
Also ruin + undying was nerfed cause having instances where it had to be cleansed multiple times made it too strong with ruin but weak with other hexes and not very consistent.
New undying is still good but at least consistent and not as oppressive as before and still see plenty of killers using it, heck i'm seeing more undying + devour, been using it myself lately
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Do you even solo survivor at red ranks? You have no idea what you are talking about if you think killers are so hard after those so called "nerfs" while acting like survivors never got any nerfs and everyone is on comms with a full stack of sweaty SWF
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Then either you only see what you want to see or you just don't pay that much attention.
Cause if you have a little bit of situational awareness you see and know what is going on around you.
I always play solo and never had any issues with the combo.
If it bothered that much than there are several perks to find the hexes easily, or bring a map.
Or do like me and memorise where the totems spawn, its not that hard.
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Nice how you put perks on the survivor nerf list, that got buffed several times.
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What perks on the survivor list got buffed several times? They literally ALL got nerfed.
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This was my last game from yesterday and they were flying trough the gens.
About the old ruin undying combo,
It was extremely rare you had to cleanse more than 3 totems, if you had to do 4 or 5 totems than you just got unlucky.
But that is only about maybe once every 50 or so games where that happens.
I personally never found it extremely strong tbh
Imo if they took away the aura reading from the perk than it would be in a good place, that was the only thing they had to do to balance it in the right spot.
I honestly see little of that combo in my matches, but maybe it will come later maybe or it is more of a platform specific atm
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The problem with Undying was that it didn't led to killers playing more "fair"
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Insta heals are still the same only in a different perspective.
Old insta heal, you use it and got fully healed.
So you needed to get hit twice to down 3 if you did it during a chase.
New insta heals, you use it and after a few seconds you are fully healed.
Getting hit during the time yku get the deep wound applied.
In other words, you still need to get hit twice to get downed
Again like the old, 3 times when you use it during a chase.
BNP was a good nerf cause especially in a swf they could do a gen in 17s when they brought it.
Hook sabo isn't nerfed cause it is made faster to do unlike the old one.
So now there is no need to 99 the hook as it takes about the same time when you use a toolbox.
Ds is barely nerfed, instead is was buffed for everyone now, and the coming changes are necessary and good so it can't be abused anymore.
OoO was a necessary change if they are gonna go trough with it.
The old version (before this current one) was more balanced, so in a way it was actually buffed the way it is right now.
And let's not talk about the beginning where survivors always fast vaulted, had hundreds of pallets with most of them safe,to name a few 😉
So yeah some things were definitely necessary to get nerfed
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BT, DS and Hook Sabotage got buffed. Being stronger than they were before the "nerf".
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