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Help me want to vs an swf group?

Rebel_Raven
Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
in Feedback and Suggestions

What I'd like to see is the game keep tabs on how large the swf group is, then add a bonus to me according to how many are in swf.

Blood points, xp, kept addons, kept offerings, stat boosts? One, some, or all?

I've been playing a few weeks and already i want to dodge swf groups. I've almost not played killer outside of doing rituals.

Never seems to fail. 3, or 4 people pop in at the same time, and they're all suspiciously well organized, and i barely have time to hook someone. If i do, it's a struggle to make a sacrifice. It's just not worth it.

I know swf isn't going anywhere, and i don't want it to.
I know third party chat isn't going anywhere and frankly it won't go anywhere even if i did want it gone.

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  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    What I'd like to see is the game keep tabs on how large the swf group is, then add a bonus to me according to how many are in swf.

    Blood points, xp, kept addons, kept offerings, stat boosts? One, some, or all?

    I've been playing a few weeks and already i want to dodge swf groups. I've almost not played killer outside of doing rituals.

    Never seems to fail. 3, or 4 people pop in at the same time, and they're all suspiciously well organized, and i barely have time to hook someone. If i do, it's a struggle to make a sacrifice. It's just not worth it.

    I know swf isn't going anywhere, and i don't want it to.
    I know third party chat isn't going anywhere and frankly it won't go anywhere even if i did want it gone.

    so give the killer even more BP since killers usually get more than survivors since BBQ is usually a must need perk but even without it you get more then survivors or at least 3 of the survivors

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    edited October 2018

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    What I'd like to see is the game keep tabs on how large the swf group is, then add a bonus to me according to how many are in swf.

    Blood points, xp, kept addons, kept offerings, stat boosts? One, some, or all?

    I've been playing a few weeks and already i want to dodge swf groups. I've almost not played killer outside of doing rituals.

    Never seems to fail. 3, or 4 people pop in at the same time, and they're all suspiciously well organized, and i barely have time to hook someone. If i do, it's a struggle to make a sacrifice. It's just not worth it.

    I know swf isn't going anywhere, and i don't want it to.
    I know third party chat isn't going anywhere and frankly it won't go anywhere even if i did want it gone.

    so give the killer even more BP since killers usually get more than survivors since BBQ is usually a must need perk but even without it you get more then survivors or at least 3 of the survivors

    Not every killer has it. I certainly don't. It's going to be random if i ever get it.

    I don't know if you understand how much of an up hill battle it is against 3 or 4 swf, especially in try hard mode, and not having a perfect loadout.

    Also, bbq and chili seems pretty useless if they have 4 or 5 genrators done in a few minutes, by the time you hook one pereon as opposed to a more normal, longer lasting game.

    Post edited by Rebel_Raven on
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    My advise is you to get better and learn from them (i totally mean this in a good way)
    I like to face swf because i usually get more bps from them than from solos.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited October 2018

    Keeping offerings and add-ons might be a good idea. Although nobody wants to be bullied by SWF, if you don't lose any offerings or add-ons when it happens, it might make Killers less inclined to dodge - there are no stakes.

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    What I'd like to see is the game keep tabs on how large the swf group is, then add a bonus to me according to how many are in swf.

    Blood points, xp, kept addons, kept offerings, stat boosts? One, some, or all?

    I've been playing a few weeks and already i want to dodge swf groups. I've almost not played killer outside of doing rituals.

    Never seems to fail. 3, or 4 people pop in at the same time, and they're all suspiciously well organized, and i barely have time to hook someone. If i do, it's a struggle to make a sacrifice. It's just not worth it.

    I know swf isn't going anywhere, and i don't want it to.
    I know third party chat isn't going anywhere and frankly it won't go anywhere even if i did want it gone.

    so give the killer even more BP since killers usually get more than survivors since BBQ is usually a must need perk but even without it you get more then survivors or at least 3 of the survivors

    Yes.
    Not every killer has bbq. I don't have leatherface, so at best i have a random chance at it.

    Against people who know what they're doing, a coordinated swf, the game won't last long enough to hook that many people, usually.

    Why the hell would i want to gamble on the off chance an swf isn't super coordinated?

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    @Vietfox said:
    My advise is you to get better and learn from them (i totally mean this in a good way)
    I like to face swf because i usually get more bps from them than from solos.

    There's not much to learn or get better from in a match going by as fast as possible.

    A gen rush even by 3 people and a decoy, especially if they know where the gens are will not teach much, and inrisk that every swf group.

    How do you get that much bps from games like that?

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:
    My advise is you to get better and learn from them (i totally mean this in a good way)
    I like to face swf because i usually get more bps from them than from solos.

    There's not much to learn or get better from in a match going by as fast as possible.

    A gen rush even by 3 people and a decoy, especially if they know where the gens are will not teach much, and inrisk that every swf group.

    How do you get that much bps from games like that?

    Swf tend to be altruist, use it on your own benefit
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    @Vietfox said:
    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:

    My advise is you to get better and learn from them (i totally mean this in a good way)

    I like to face swf because i usually get more bps from them than from solos.

    There's not much to learn or get better from in a match going by as fast as possible.

    A gen rush even by 3 people and a decoy, especially if they know where the gens are will not teach much, and inrisk that every swf group.

    How do you get that much bps from games like that?

    Swf tend to be altruist, use it on your own benefit

    Not really.
    Hook swarms that just lead to people switching places, and maybe one of them sacrifices themselves while the rest make a break for it realizing the hook will be watched.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:

    My advise is you to get better and learn from them (i totally mean this in a good way)

    I like to face swf because i usually get more bps from them than from solos.

    There's not much to learn or get better from in a match going by as fast as possible.

    A gen rush even by 3 people and a decoy, especially if they know where the gens are will not teach much, and inrisk that every swf group.

    How do you get that much bps from games like that?

    Swf tend to be altruist, use it on your own benefit

    Not really.
    Hook swarms that just lead to people switching places, and maybe one of them sacrifices themselves while the rest make a break for it realizing the hook will be watched.

    Force them to do specific gens so the remaining ones will be close to each other, then they'll have nowhere else to go. Just keep the pressure.
    Btw, what killer do u main?
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    @Vietfox said:
    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:

My advise is you to get better and learn from them (i totally mean this in a good way)

I like to face swf because i usually get more bps from them than from solos.



There's not much to learn or get better from in a match going by as fast as possible.

A gen rush even by 3 people and a decoy, especially if they know where the gens are will not teach much, and inrisk that every swf group.

How do you get that much bps from games like that?

    Swf tend to be altruist, use it on your own benefit

    Not really.

    Hook swarms that just lead to people switching places, and maybe one of them sacrifices themselves while the rest make a break for it realizing the hook will be watched.

    Force them to do specific gens so the remaining ones will be close to each other, then they'll have nowhere else to go. Just keep the pressure.
    Btw, what killer do u main?

    There's not much forcing them when they're done by the time you find, and catch someone after a brief chase.

    I'm pretty low level all around. Usually pig, huntress, or hag.

    Not really wanting to end up playing someone because i absolutely have to to get something done.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Huntress and hag are awesome, i main them both in pc and ps4. Believe me, u can do better with those killers, just get used to them.
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    edited October 2018

    @Vietfox said:
    Huntress and hag are awesome, i main them both in pc and ps4. Believe me, u can do better with those killers, just get used to them.

    Let me paint a picture.

    The new japan map. Me as pig vs a 3-4 swf.

    I crouch, and find a survivor in about a minute. I chase them half way across the thinner area of the map. Down. Trap. Hook.
    4 generators are done.
    There isn't much exaggeration in that. And other swfs run about the same depending on map size.

    Most swfs i run into are hyper efficient, try hards, or both.

    I played a lvl 1 nurse for a ritual and a pro decoy/runner was acting like I had nurses calling when my only perk was thantaphobia(sp?).
    I knew this because she stopped to heal herself like obvious bait, and wouldn't fully heal.

    Glad you're having better luck.

    P.s. when i play hag, or trapper, they generally know where I'm at it seems and either disable or pop traps when I'm too far to do anything about them, and seem to know where they all are.
    They try to use them as distractions.

    I was lucky to get the bear trap ritual done.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Huntress and hag are awesome, i main them both in pc and ps4. Believe me, u can do better with those killers, just get used to them.

    Let me paint a picture.

    The new japan map. Me as pig vs a 3-4 swf.

    I crouch, and find a survivor in about a minute. I chase them half way across the thinner area of the map. Down. Trap. Hook.
    4 generators are done.
    There isn't much exaggeration in that. And other swfs run about the same depending on map size.

    Most swfs i run into are hyper efficient, try hards, or both.

    I played a lvl 1 nurse for a ritual and a pro decoy/runner was acting like I had nurses calling when my only perk was thantaphobia(sp?).
    I knew this because she stopped to heal herself like obvious bait, and wouldn't fully heal.

    Glad you're having better luck.

    P.s. when i play hag, or trapper, they generally know where I'm at it seems and either disable or pop traps when I'm too far to do anything about them, and seem to know where they all are.
    They try to use them as distractions.

    I was lucky to get the bear trap ritual done.

    As a hag:
    Try to protect the closest 3 gens to each other,  so they are forced to do the ones on the other side of the map, and trap the area. Where? 2 at the shack (outter window and outter door with the pallet), in one side of the pallets, by the gens, etc... Ofc all this while getting a hook or 2. Ruin will help u to slow them down.
    Once they find out the remaining gens are close to each other it's when u already manage the situation.
    Loop around the shack or pallets are gone. Are they smart enough to not drop the pallet after triggering your trap? Let them turn back and down them without teleporting.
    And btw, use Make Your Choice with the hag, it's a wonderful perk for her.