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So no DS nerf until xmas at earliest

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  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    @IronWolf115 said:
    I have to admit I am curious what the " Results were not satisfying " means.

    Same. More info on that would have been really nice since this is a change many have been waiting to happen for a very long time.

  • IronWolf115
    IronWolf115 Member Posts: 672

    @MojoTheFabulous said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    I have to admit I am curious what the " Results were not satisfying " means.

    Same. More info on that would have been really nice since this is a change many have been waiting to happen for a very long time.

    Yeah I mainly just want to know whether they felt it hit DS too hard, or not enough.

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @IronWolf115 said:
    I have to admit I am curious what the " Results were not satisfying " means.

    Survivors were not satisfied with the DS nerf

  • jiminie
    jiminie Member Posts: 200

    They know the world is goin' to end if they do it, you want the world to end ?

  • HP150
    HP150 Member Posts: 455

    Guess the same can be said of the Freddy rework...

  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    If no results are satisfying after months of being looked at, a rework is no longer viable and scrapping the perk entirely, making a whole new concept to a whole new perk for Laurie, would suit the games balance.

    They are literally failing to balance it, why keep it?

    Anyway this PTB isn't exciting and it's just minor changes. Meh.

  • Dehitay
    Dehitay Member Posts: 1,726
    edited October 2018

    @fcc2014 said:
    They shrunk 2 of the worse maps

    >

    I somehow didn't catch this part in the notes. Which 2 maps did they shrink? Please tell me Azarov's Resting Place is one of them. That map is so ridiculous, I just choose whichever side has the most generators in close proximity and refuse to go to the other side.

  • Cetren
    Cetren Member Posts: 985
    edited October 2018
    There are plenty of nice changes rolling out. As long as they keep them up, I think DS can wait.
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @fcc2014 said:
    @SenzuDuck I don't get it. Increased healing time, adjusted pallets again, changed spawn of totem on hills, adjusted moonlight offerings, made NOED viable at all 3 tiers, Buffed the killer emblem while adding a nerf to chaser if you camp, added some asked changes to the Spirit. and to 2 terrible maps for Killers and made them smaller. Like what the hell more do you want per patch.

    BUT MUH DS.

    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves down ranks.

    Not every killer at rank 1 should be there. Some just got to that point from so many matches others earned it and are crazy skilled. Not everyone needs a trophy you can't overcome lack of experience.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @SenzuDuck
    We know who you are talking about, lol.

    idk what you mean, people wouldn't be so silly as to admit they derank on a forum and then complain about how hard it is at their newly earned rank 15.

    Yeah that would make no sense but.....

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    This would make DS tolerable in my humble opinion. If you agree, be sure to tag the devs in the comments! https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/16907/the-change-to-balance-all-levels-of-play-dying-state-2-0#latest
  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?
    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?
    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.
    This just shows you on which side they are.

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489
    edited October 2018

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:
    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?
    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?
    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.
    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch
    they didn't buff the spirit even more
    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least
    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks
    they didn't speed up hooking survivors
    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Yeah they made another change just to make the game least the right amount ~10mins not 5 this patch- which doesnt impact the game against somewhat decent survivors.
    they did buff an underpowered killer just to make her somewhat competitive (not all killers should be viable -M cote lmao)
    they did fix another issue just to make it somewhat fair on long term chases
    You're right on this one. fair point
    they did save 0.5 seconds you're right WOAW
    Again fair point, now flashlight saves arent free escape anymore
    damn you really need to think before typing dude.
    I dont understand how can you defend such a stupid perk in the first place, maybe you need it so thats why otherwise no idea.

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  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    @fcc2014 said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    You know no matter what you say they will believe they are right and the injured party.

    Seems like you described the survivors atitude perfectly
    take a star

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:
    Yeah they made another change just to make the game least the right amount ~10mins not 5 this patch- which doesnt impact the game against somewhat decent survivors.
    they did buff an underpowered killer just to make her somewhat competitive (not all killers should be viable -M cote lmao)
    they did fix another issue just to make it somewhat fair on long term chases
    You're right on this one. fair point
    they did save 0.5 seconds you're right WOAW
    Again fair point, now flashlight saves arent free escape anymore
    damn you really need to think before typing dude.
    I dont understand how can you defend such a stupid perk in the first place, maybe you need it so thats why otherwise no idea.

    Lol, killers complain about how fast matches go, they make healing slower, which means saves wont come in as quick and WE still complaining,Y I K E S.

    Underpowered Killer? God damn, she isn't that hard to play, you all need some heavy heavy practice, seriously.

    Oh, they changed pallet spawns but that doesn't matter or count because it just makes it fairer, right gotcha.

    obviously I'm right

    Oh no, killers always complain about how long it takes to do things, they make it faster but that doesn't matter because the survivors aren't hooking themselves for you

    again, another buff for killers that you shrug off because you still want to complain about flashlights.

    "Damn, you really need to think before you type" & "I dont understand how can you defend such a stupid perk in the first place, maybe you need it so thats why otherwise no idea" makes me laugh my ass off.

    ONCE AGAIN, i disagree on some thing which means I support d strike, not once in my reply to you did i mention dstrike but clearly I like it because I argue the fact that they always make changes in favour of the killer.

    Maybe you should learn to read, check my first comment in this thread

    BUT MUH DS.
    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need >a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves >down ranks.

    yea dude, by this comment you can really tell I support DS.

    I could go ahead and write all the things that survivors have over killers but that would take too long and i dont feel like wasting time.
    Just cause they add 4 seconds more to heal that doesnt mean good survivors will be affected, unless they play like braindeads which 95% of the swf teams tend to do. i'm right, wont impact the game to heavly against good survivors.

    -she was and still is mid and very addon dependend, have you played her naked? with 0 addons you barely can go 30meters away and wait 15 seconds to do that again.
    110% mv speed BTW, let that sink in for a moment.

    i'm confused on what are you trying to say here, i guess you do miss double pallets, yeah 10 pallets in 20 meters were fair right.

    -

    besides the animation pick up, i dont think anyone said anything about hooking ( 0.5 seconds wins game OMEGALUL)

    you're right flashlights saves do need some skill right now i dont see the problem and why are you making a big problem from this, i guess you cant ez save your friends now. RIP

    Yeah i dont want to read the entire thread just to answer you, my time is limited you know.
    They are making killer easier against decent/bad survivors, against survivors that know how to play its still impossible to win unless billy/nurse is on the wheel.

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    @fcc2014 said:
    @switch kind of think you are the injured party. How a DS change which we don't even know what the end result of that change is , was somehow go to change the game entirely. I have a feeling it wasn't going to help you all that much. They continue to rework things and people still are not happy on both sides. Maybe just play the game or play something else. I mean you do like to quote Cote. Didn't he recommend that. Maybe this isn't the game for you.

    wanna bet 100$ that they will scrap dstrike idea forever?
    I play this game since beta, you probably werent here when they tested 1 heal only ptb and scraped that like was nothing.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192
    edited October 2018

    @SenzuDuck said:
    BUT MUH DS.
    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need >a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves >down ranks.

    yea dude, by this comment you can really tell I support DS.

    I honestly thought selective reading was the main staple that upheld most of these arguments.

    The amount of times I have seen someone accused of the exact opposite of what they actually said, makes me think some people are literally clapping their hands over their eyes "Lalala i can't see it so it isn't real" just to try and get the last word in.

    I personally don't really give a cats fart in a tin whistle about DS, I found it to be an underwhelming perk as a survivor, and i honestly don't see it as much as i expected as a killer (maybe a ps4 thing)

    I mean people can play verbal tennis all they want i guess, but ignoring the truth just to get a dig in seems daft.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @SoylentPixie said:

    I personally don't really give a cats fart in a tin whistle about DS, I found it to be an underwhelming perk as a survivor, and i honestly don't see it as much as i expected as a killer (maybe a ps4 thing)

    You find it with certain squads in the red ranks on PS4, but it isn't every match. Not sure if it is at the higher ranks.

  • KingB
    KingB Member Posts: 747
    If they increased the base heal time does that mean self-care takes longer?
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @KingB said:
    If they increased the base heal time does that mean self-care takes longer?

    Yes and if they have sloppy butcher it increases it more like before. It applies to all healing actions.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @KingB said:
    If they increased the base heal time does that mean self-care takes longer?

    Absolutely, healing on the floor takes longer, healing team mates takes longer, healing yourself takes longer.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @SoylentPixie said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    BUT MUH DS.
    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need >a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves >down ranks.

    yea dude, by this comment you can really tell I support DS.

    I honestly thought selective reading was the main staple that upheld most of these arguments.

    The amount of times I have seen someone accused of the exact opposite of what they actually said, makes me think some people are literally clapping their hands over their eyes "Lalala i can't see it so it isn't real" just to try and get the last word in.

    I personally don't really give a cats fart in a tin whistle about DS, I found it to be an underwhelming perk as a survivor, and i honestly don't see it as much as i expected as a killer (maybe a ps4 thing)

    I mean people can play verbal tennis all they want i guess, but ignoring the truth just to get a dig in seems daft.

    It's so often that I say something contradictory to what someone says and they immediately accuse me of supporting something because I've said I don't agree with certain things they've stated, it's ridiculous.

    you'll see it a lot on this forum, people ignore half the the thread, start talking crap to you - then when they say something stupid they're like "well i wasn't going to read the thread now was I" how about don't partake if you're not going to read the entire thread.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    @SenzuDuck said:
    you'll see it a lot on this forum, people ignore half the the thread, start talking crap to you - then when they say something stupid they're like "well i wasn't going to read the thread now was I" how about don't partake if you're not going to read the entire thread.

    See that would just provoke the imp in me to start hiding random weird stuff in the midst of posts, but i'm just odd i guess.

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:
    I could go ahead and write all the things that survivors have over killers but that would take too long and i dont feel like wasting time.

    Yea, sure dude, there's so many things survivor can do that killers can't counter, not at all.

    Just cause they add 4 seconds more to heal that doesnt mean good survivors will be affected, unless they play like braindeads which 95% of the swf teams tend to do. i'm right, wont impact the game to heavly against good survivors.

    Yea, I heard the rumour too that good survivor can bend time and mitigate the addition of the 4 seconds, this means you have an additional four seconds as a killer before injured people can even try and help/bodyblock, if you don't see the benefit of that and can't capitalize on it you're probably very bad at this game.

    -she was and still is mid and very addon dependend, have you played her naked? with 0 addons you barely can go 30meters away and wait 15 seconds to do that again.
    110% mv speed BTW, let that sink in for a moment.

    This one makes me laugh, as survivor get better (higher rank apparently) of course you're going to need addons, at rank one killers shouldn't be 4King every match without addons, that's stupid.

    i'm confused on what are you trying to say here, i guess you do miss double pallets, yeah 10 pallets in 20 meters were fair right.

    I mean, the PTBs been out for like 10 seconds and haven't really tested it which is why I'm not crying on the forums about being bad, but I play killer just as much as I do survivor, but yes - because I'm not blind and can see that killers have had buffs I must be a serious survivor main, right?

    besides the animation pick up, i dont think anyone said anything about hooking ( 0.5 seconds wins game OMEGALUL)

    Al;right, lets make it 0.5 seconds longer and pretend it doesn't matter, again survivor who body block at the hook have less time to get away, obviously a good killer would see that and capitalize but you're clearly bind to minor changes that can help a lot.

    you're right flashlights saves do need some skill right now i dont see the problem and why are you making a big problem from this, i guess you cant ez save your friends now. RIP

    I don't really bring items into the game tbh unless I'm asked by viewers on my stream or I'm testing the changes out.

    Yeah i dont want to read the entire thread just to answer you, my time is limited you know.

    So don't make assumptions about a perk that I never even mentioned just because I'm not blind to the things they've added for killer.

    They are making killer easier against decent/bad survivors, against survivors that know how to play its still impossible to win unless billy/nurse is on the wheel.

    Well if survivor are good, maybe you should become a better killer.

    Read your first line and didnt bother to read the rest.
    I can change survivors main no one can.
    Take your line killers op and so on, talking to walls are more productive then talking to you.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited October 2018

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:
    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?
    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?
    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.
    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch
    they didn't buff the spirit even more
    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least
    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks
    they didn't speed up hooking survivors
    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    I say this every patch. The devs are trying to please the wrong people.

    They hit every point except DS and Freddy buffs, and yet it's always "OMG DEVS DO NOTHING". Like clockwork, self-entitled players just cry until they get every little thing they want, no matter how much devs try to give.

    You also might want to add that fast vaults are much harder to achieve now. But hey, I guess survivors aren't nerfed enough until they're perma exposed and die on first hook, so that killers get the juicy 4ks they deserve every game.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:
    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?
    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?
    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.
    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch
    they didn't buff the spirit even more
    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least
    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks
    they didn't speed up hooking survivors
    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited October 2018

    @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

    they didn't buff the spirit even more

    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

    they didn't speed up hooking survivors

    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    "I wish this silo loop didn't have two pallets"

    • said no survivor ever
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    Visionmaker said:

    @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

    they didn't buff the spirit even more

    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

    they didn't speed up hooking survivors

    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    "I wish this balloon loop didn't have two pallets"

    • said no survivor ever
    pallets are more spread out: more likely to drag out a loop for longer.
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051

    @yeet said:
    Visionmaker said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

This just shows you on which side they are.



Just shows how biased you are really...

Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

they didn't buff the spirit even more

they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

they didn't speed up hooking survivors

they didn't speed up picking up survivors

damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    "I wish this balloon loop didn't have two pallets"


    * said no survivor ever

    pallets are more spread out: more likely to drag out a loop for longer.

    Pallets are closer together: looping does not need to apply pressure to other parts of the map for longer.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    Visionmaker said:

    @yeet said:
    Visionmaker said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

This just shows you on which side they are.



Just shows how biased you are really...

Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

they didn't buff the spirit even more

they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

they didn't speed up hooking survivors

they didn't speed up picking up survivors

damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    "I wish this balloon loop didn't have two pallets"


    * said no survivor ever

    pallets are more spread out: more likely to drag out a loop for longer.

    Pallets are closer together: looping does not need to apply pressure to other parts of the map for longer.

    We can go back and forth about this all day but an even distribution of pallets across the map is better than bunches and dead zones
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

    they didn't buff the spirit even more

    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

    they didn't speed up hooking survivors

    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    Good God, you cannot please these people!

    Do you want pallets every 8 meters then?

    they either put pallets close together and you all moan, or they separate them AND YOU STILL MOAN.

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    why do killers keep beating a dead horse?
    what dont you understand about not getting a free handout deal with it get over it.

    you dont deserve a free kill
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

    they didn't buff the spirit even more

    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

    they didn't speed up hooking survivors

    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    Good God, you cannot please these people!

    Do you want pallets every 8 meters then?

    they either put pallets close together and you all moan, or they separate them AND YOU STILL MOAN.

    Becoming so upset when i point out a flaw in your reasoning is not a way to make yourself look good.