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Devs working on freddy ♡STUDY THE MOVIES♡

FayeZahara
FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
edited October 2018 in General Discussions
I play as leatherface and feel like him waving around the chainsaw. Then go as myers and as i stalk sure know it can be less fun with good survivors. But all that stalking i get to do makes me feel like micheal myers greatly. Amanda is so fun and you gave us the tools to play her to her fullest character.
But now i look at freddy and he doesn't feel like freddy. I love him as iconic killer but he doesn't match well with him. He feels more like the sandman killer. He puts ya to sleep then slashes you. Sadly i want him to feel like freddy and i think the core of freddy is in one of your killers the doctor. Freddy messes also with his victims making his dream realm your personnal nightmare. While it also being his own fun playground of nightmares. I know had to tone down his power for game but really need that messing with survivor personality.

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  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Exactly!!! Freddy doesn't put people to sleep, he awaits for them in his playground of nightmares and has his fun toying with them in HIS world before giving them a slow and painful death. Just look at how the guy laughed when he murdered people slowly. I know hes based off of remake freddy but even in that movie he still played with his victims and didnt put them to sleep, he waited for them. The devs made freddy as a YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANT HIDE #########!!!! kinda killer but that's the whole thing survivors do they run and repair gens
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    Exactly!!! Freddy doesn't put people to sleep, he awaits for them in his playground of nightmares and has his fun toying with them in HIS world before giving them a slow and painful death. Just look at how the guy laughed when he murdered people slowly. I know hes based off of remake freddy but even in that movie he still played with his victims and didnt put them to sleep, he waited for them. The devs made freddy as a YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANT HIDE #########!!!! kinda killer but that's the whole thing survivors do they run and repair gens

    Yeah i want him to be my favourite killer each time saying "do you like that Beeeytch"
    .....at this point i kinda want his body replaced by the sandman. I sometimes have to imagine the messing with people as doctor is me doing that as freddy. I love all killers but freddy is my 2nd favourite in the horror universe and think anyone who loves him. Knows his powers are just not him >:

  • SteveyHooves
    SteveyHooves Member Posts: 246
    edited October 2018
    I watched 1-3... the most I got out of it was he could alter the dream world and teliport. So I wouldn't be surprised if he could do something like that
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    I watched 1-3... the most I got out of it was he could alter the dream world and teliport. So I wouldn't be surprised if he could do something like that

    I got different powers from each movie but that is his original power. Messing with people is the core of him though.
    2nd movie power was driving a single survivor insane enough to hitch a ride out of dream realm using there body.
    3rd movie power was them unable to save each other so they had to bring themselves into dream realm. Lockers could have a use again for sleeping.
    They just need to add anything that feels like you can be freddy messing with people.
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965

    So, perhaps what should happen is the "dream world" (visuals, audio, etc.) being a permanent effect on all survivors. Then build Freddy's kit off of that.

    (The survivors have all been placed in this dream by the entity)

    Yeah could just be in dream realm and only  comes out upon there deaths. Then it is just a regular killer and can build a power that matches the character. If the dream realm was on all the time it shows he doesn't really have a power himself. So they really need to build beyond the dream realm.
  • xmenfanatic
    xmenfanatic Member Posts: 816

    I think if he puts the obsession to sleep, he is now in the real world and everyone should be vulnerable

  • SteveyHooves
    SteveyHooves Member Posts: 246
    I watched 1-3... the most I got out of it was he could alter the dream world and teliport. So I wouldn't be surprised if he could do something like that

    I got different powers from each movie but that is his original power. Messing with people is the core of him though.
    2nd movie power was driving a single survivor insane enough to hitch a ride out of dream realm using there body.
    3rd movie power was them unable to save each other so they had to bring themselves into dream realm. Lockers could have a use again for sleeping.
    They just need to add anything that feels like you can be freddy messing with people.
    As much as love for him to take over one of the survivors they wouldn't do that because it leave one ruin the game one person. I feel like against Freddy you should be asleep. Not putting people asleep. Just rework his abilities a little. He just gives you a nightmare. Altering the world and some vaults are covered and some pallets can't be seen. Also slowing Repairs by 25%. You have to go to survivor to make the nightmare go away. If you're all under the nightmare said It to be hooked or a failed skill check. This would make it so you don't have to put people to sleep first before hitting them and it keeps the ability pretty similar but kinda lore wise wrong. 
  • Nerex7
    Nerex7 Member Posts: 52

    There is one very interesting detail in the new movie that wasn't there in the originals but could make up for a very interesting game mechanic: Microsleep.

    People in the movie would fall asleep for short moments only - enough time for Freddy in a world where time doesn't matter.

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    “His powers were enhanced in some ways, and tempered in others.” They have more as to why his power is the way it is in the game. That being said, he should have areas he “sets” as zones that if you walk into them, you begin to fall asleep. 
  • Kalec84
    Kalec84 Member Posts: 495

    Comparing him to the doctor gave me an idea...
    When survivors are in the dream woprld fake generators appear. A survivor can work on them but after a skill ceck fail the generator disappear!
    And the more survivors are in the dream the more fake gens appear!
    they can do that with totem too.
    Also the "map" in the dream world could be different so that in the dream world there is a window were in the real world there is no window, but sleeping survivors can still pass trough it (like in the movie)
    There is a ton of cool and fun stuff they can do instead of "now you sleep" "now you loop me"

  • RabidWabbitz
    RabidWabbitz Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2018

    Why not make his power opposite of what it is, instead of him putting survivors to sleep he should be trying to make it to the awake world by using some power to come out of the dreamworld. Kind of like how Michael stalks, Freddy could use a torment meter somehow that brings him to the real world. Although he can hit the whole time and the survivors get glimpses kind of like the spirit while he is in the dream world. Or the more the gens are done the more powerful he becomes. just some ideas!

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    Do you think that we'll get to see what they've done to him this Thursday?? 😁 I mean hes the next one up so they have to have like an idea at least or have done something to him! 
  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2018

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    The devs made freddy as a YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANT HIDE #########!!!! kinda killer but that's the whole >thing survivors do they run and repair gens

    They don't need to hide when they can fail a skill check on a gen or SC right in front of your face.

  • LightsOut88
    LightsOut88 Member Posts: 123
    Rank 1 Killer (Freddy Main) 
    I love Freddy so much, but he would be so much more fun if the survivors were in more danger when pulled into the dream world and not just minorly inconvenienced. 
    To get out of the dream state should require you to find another survivor or a designated "hot spot" not just miss a skill check!
    I also think take away Freddys aura reading ability and instead make it so that if a survivor stays in the dream state for more than 1 minute he gets the "exposed status" and his aura then gets revealed to freddy when outside his terror radius. This would make Freddy much more scary and actually make survivors fear the dream state, as well as force them to abandon gens and seek out a way to wake up. (Generators should not be able to be used to wake up)
    Instead of self care waking ppl up i think there should be certain "hotspots" in the map where survivors have to pass a few skill checks or one really hard one and (perhaps they burn themselves on a camp fire to wake up?) just like the pig :) 
    Other than that maybe a base speed buff? I like the way he plays now he just needs some balancing tweaks. 
  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    If survivors are always asleep during the trial as the trial is a nightmare, would be cool but that means no slowdown penalty as they cant wake up
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    edited October 2018
    Nerex7 said:

    There is one very interesting detail in the new movie that wasn't there in the originals but could make up for a very interesting game mechanic: Microsleep.

    People in the movie would fall asleep for short moments only - enough time for Freddy in a world where time doesn't matter.


    Say microsleep three times and it already makes me giggle. I think powerwise should stay away from the reboot. I know its the reboot freddy we got but his movie was so bad at displaying freddy. Didn't they try to sympathize with freddy but also made him a pedophile. Don't think this mechanic is bad but really doesn't capture him unless he can hag teleport after they enter microsleep. (Funny enough hag does his "heres freddy" pose with hands down when she teleports)

    Why not make his power opposite of what it is, instead of him putting survivors to sleep he should be trying to make it to the awake world by using some power to come out of the dreamworld. Kind of like how Michael stalks, Freddy could use a torment meter somehow that brings him to the real world. Although he can hit the whole time and the survivors get glimpses kind of like the spirit while he is in the dream world. Or the more the gens are done the more powerful he becomes. just some ideas!

    Yeah that actually sounds good i really enjoy this one. Actually takes the 2nd movie into consideration. I think his torment should showcase his form in the awake realm until one survivor is insane enough to dig claws into. Then you as freddy hitch a ride in the survivor body then you split yourself apart. (Like end of 2nd movie and maybe like movie survivor who got body hitched has exhaustion full after seperation)
    Think he should have no power until comes out of dream realm but he pops up afterimages of himself if he is in range of survivors.
    Think shock therapy raidius mixed with unlimited hag traps to raise peoples torment. His only weakness in movies is people not remembering him. His strength in movies is word of mouth xD
    Parents were seemed wrong in movies to not mention him while people got murdered. But keeping mouth shut at least let them have few more years with kids.

    Bravo0413 said:
    Do you think that we'll get to see what they've done to him this Thursday?? 😁 I mean hes the next one up so they have to have like an idea at least or have done something to him! 
    I really hope they show in next livestream whats being done to freddy. I feel worried about it and think if he doesn't feel like freddy. I think i will actually cry the tears had when he came out. I doubt it will be number changes but if it is will be so pissed. Im just worried there focusing to much on dream realm and not the character. I just hope i can touch sandman cause i refuse to call him freddy. Specially since scary terry from rick and morty is more freddy then him in this game. I said no to freddy at start cause was way to soon after we got leatherface. Knew that couldn't be enough time to research killer thoroughly. I just hope in end they did research into him.
    Kalec84 said:

    Comparing him to the doctor gave me an idea...
    When survivors are in the dream woprld fake generators appear. A survivor can work on them but after a skill ceck fail the generator disappear!
    And the more survivors are in the dream the more fake gens appear!
    they can do that with totem too.
    Also the "map" in the dream world could be different so that in the dream world there is a window were in the real world there is no window, but sleeping survivors can still pass trough it (like in the movie)
    There is a ton of cool and fun stuff they can do instead of "now you sleep" "now you loop me"

    True this would be fun mechanic of fakeouts and would love to see done with a killer. Love to see fake stuff be made to trick survivors. maybe even hide things that exsist too like making basement window an illusionary wall. (Maybe a opera phantom who is good at hiding the veil of reality)
    Still think it lacks freddy flavour of suprise lets ######### with ya attitude freddy has.
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    If you bring candyman better give me bee power or smashing through mirror power. Cause may have hurt my 2nd favourite killer freddy but my favourite one better not get same treatment. Like focusing on one aspect of him like can only summon him by saying candyman three times. Cause i would hate another waiting game licensed killer. And think with all this gen rushing takes fun out of it with a waiting game killer. Myers gets a pass at that gameplay because he plays to his character which is lunging and stalking in silence.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @FayeZahara said:
    If you bring candyman better give me bee power or smashing through mirror power. Cause may have hurt my 2nd favourite killer freddy but my favourite one better not get same treatment. Like focusing on one aspect of him like can only summon him by saying candyman three times. Cause i would hate another waiting game licensed killer. And think with all this gen rushing takes fun out of it with a waiting game killer. Myers gets a pass at that gameplay because he plays to his character which is lunging and stalking in silence.

    It's 5 times, you uncultured swine! You are hereby banished from the Candyman fanclub!

  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    Orion said:

    @FayeZahara said:
    If you bring candyman better give me bee power or smashing through mirror power. Cause may have hurt my 2nd favourite killer freddy but my favourite one better not get same treatment. Like focusing on one aspect of him like can only summon him by saying candyman three times. Cause i would hate another waiting game licensed killer. And think with all this gen rushing takes fun out of it with a waiting game killer. Myers gets a pass at that gameplay because he plays to his character which is lunging and stalking in silence.

    It's 5 times, you uncultured swine! You are hereby banished from the Candyman fanclub!

    Nuuuuu oCo damn bloody mary ######### me over on that number. I have a couple words to speak with that god damn bloody mary. She had to have same mirror appearance gimmick with 3 times saying bloody mary.....
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @FayeZahara said:
    Nuuuuu oCo damn bloody mary [BAD WORD] me over on that number. I have a couple words to speak with that god damn bloody mary. She had to have same mirror appearance gimmick with 3 times saying bloody mary.....

    Do you even know the origin of the name Carnival?

  • HP150
    HP150 Member Posts: 455

    I will say this... don't get your hopes up when it comes to the rework. Look at the previous work on killers they've done that they've called a "rework".

    1) Hag, they took away her ridiculous self-stun every time she teleported to a trap
    2) Doctor, they made some of his addons part of his base kit and gave him the ability to interrupt vaults/pallet throws
    3) Wraith, did some weird crap with his uncloaking speed and gave him bloodhound as his base kit
    4) Wraith again, undid previous rework and gave him the previous Windstorm as his base kit

    Based on previous results, I expect them to maybe undo some of the nerfs ( that they hastily announced a week after his release then implemented a week later), adding some of the addons to his base kit, and reworking some of his other addons.

    In other words, don't expect a completely new power.

  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    edited October 2018
    HP150 said:

    I will say this... don't get your hopes up when it comes to the rework. Look at the previous work on killers they've done that they've called a "rework".

    1) Hag, they took away her ridiculous self-stun every time she teleported to a trap
    2) Doctor, they made some of his addons part of his base kit and gave him the ability to interrupt vaults/pallet throws
    3) Wraith, did some weird crap with his uncloaking speed and gave him bloodhound as his base kit
    4) Wraith again, undid previous rework and gave him the previous Windstorm as his base kit

    Based on previous results, I expect them to maybe undo some of the nerfs ( that they hastily announced a week after his release then implemented a week later), adding some of the addons to his base kit, and reworking some of his other addons.

    In other words, don't expect a completely new power.

    1) hag felt like got an added fun power the trapper was one lacking. I can put down all her ten traps down fast and make hag have a 10 trap zone that confuses the ######### out of survivors and where to run. Plus she can end loops quick which is added bonus.
    2. Doctor is my 2nd favourite and found he had no problems in that department.
    3) wraith is boring and hoped they make him fun.
    4) They did ######### up wraith changes and next to the spirit his powers are super boring.
     
    So yeah they are known to just make number changes sadly. That doesn't ussually add a fun layer to the characters. The only reason hag has fun now is they didn't even know they made the quality of life changes. Compared to all killers only boring ones are freddy, trapper, wraith and myers (love to include nurse but she is super fun to those that main her at high ranks)
    I still love myers though cause he does feel like him in the movies. I know shouldn't expect a second power in freddy kit but it is so needed for quality of life. Will probally be dissapointed like wraith and camper changes. But when they talked in stream about changing mechanics of freddy made me hopeful. But at same time it seems there only focused on dream realm aspect of him. So i think what they do will make me sad even if its fun for others.
    Post edited by FayeZahara on
  • Kalec84
    Kalec84 Member Posts: 495

    @FayeZahara said:

    True this would be fun mechanic of fakeouts and would love to see done with a killer. Love to see fake stuff be made to trick survivors. maybe even hide things that exsist too like making basement window an illusionary wall. (Maybe a opera phantom who is good at hiding the veil of reality)

    Still think it lacks freddy flavour of suprise lets [BAD WORD] with ya attitude freddy has.

    One thing freddy do in movies is to appear as another person to get near his victim, like looking like a survivor :)

    Another cool think could be a fear meter, like the doctor madness.... hmmm i have to make a longer post about this and i dpn't have time now u_u

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    Kalec84 said:

    @FayeZahara said:

    True this would be fun mechanic of fakeouts and would love to see done with a killer. Love to see fake stuff be made to trick survivors. maybe even hide things that exsist too like making basement window an illusionary wall. (Maybe a opera phantom who is good at hiding the veil of reality)

    Still think it lacks freddy flavour of suprise lets [BAD WORD] with ya attitude freddy has.

    One thing freddy do in movies is to appear as another person to get near his victim, like looking like a survivor :)

    Another cool think could be a fear meter, like the doctor madness.... hmmm i have to make a longer post about this and i dpn't have time now u_u

    This /\ freddy could the shape shifter
  • HP150
    HP150 Member Posts: 455

    The problem with shapeshifting, like most good ideas in the game, is that voice comm'd SWF would completely neuter it from the start.

    I think another big thing that DBD Freddy is missing is teleporting... He was an immaterial, tormentor in the movies. Not only could he could teleport around at will, he could phase through walls in the dream world.
    There was a theory before his release that he'd be able to teleport between lockers... While that wouldn't help him much in chases and it would be outright terrible on certain maps, I think being able to briefly phase through a wall would be fitting and powerful.

    But then again, we all know how many bugs something like that would introduced (see: how bugged Nurse's blinks were for years, I don't think the map's terrain is designed with that in mind).

  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965

    Kalec84 said:

    @FayeZahara said:

    True this would be fun mechanic of fakeouts and would love to see done with a killer. Love to see fake stuff be made to trick survivors. maybe even hide things that exsist too like making basement window an illusionary wall. (Maybe a opera phantom who is good at hiding the veil of reality)

    Still think it lacks freddy flavour of suprise lets [BAD WORD] with ya attitude freddy has.

    One thing freddy do in movies is to appear as another person to get near his victim, like looking like a survivor :)

    Another cool think could be a fear meter, like the doctor madness.... hmmm i have to make a longer post about this and i dpn't have time now u_u

    As long as make your own post and share ideas that take his powers from each movie like this. I look forward to it when have the time. Devs need freddy ideas shoved down throat til it feels like freddy xD
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    HP150 said:

    The problem with shapeshifting, like most good ideas in the game, is that voice comm'd SWF would completely neuter it from the start.

    I think another big thing that DBD Freddy is missing is teleporting... He was an immaterial, tormentor in the movies. Not only could he could teleport around at will, he could phase through walls in the dream world.
    There was a theory before his release that he'd be able to teleport between lockers... While that wouldn't help him much in chases and it would be outright terrible on certain maps, I think being able to briefly phase through a wall would be fitting and powerful.

    But then again, we all know how many bugs something like that would introduced (see: how bugged Nurse's blinks were for years, I don't think the map's terrain is designed with that in mind).

    So true swf would destroy that shapeshifting sadly. He would need to change to all characters in lobby on a dime. That way could even have some luck tricking swf. Cause as soon as they discover you then have to change to someone else. But also the 3rd person view probally give away your shapeshifting cause they could see changing behind stuff.  i only like shapeshifting if he could change to other killers also. That is why looking forward to game "######### your pants" be 3 killer or a survivor.
  • rounder247
    rounder247 Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2018

    Speaking of Freddy having an illusion as a power...what if his ability were to be able to place extra generators around the map that look just like other generators and survivors can work on completing them, and once complete it blows up and each survivor sustains a hit?

    I didn’t read the whole thread before posting this i see someone had a similar idea already

  • rounder247
    rounder247 Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2018

    Or what if Freddy were to put you in the dream world but you just didn’t know you were in it, and you have to complete a generator to get out of the dream world but that completed generator doesn’t count towards the number needed to be completed to unlock the gates.

  • Kind_Lemon
    Kind_Lemon Member Posts: 2,559

    Please just make him more interesting. Go ahead and add some custom music while you're at it.

  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965

    Or what if Freddy were to put you in the dream world but you just didn’t know you were in it, and you have to complete a generator to get out of the dream world but that completed generator doesn’t count towards the number needed to be completed to unlock the gates.


    Speaking of Freddy having an illusion as a power...what if his ability were to be able to place extra generators around the map that look just like other generators and survivors can work on completing them, and once complete it blows up and each survivor sustains a hit?

    I didn’t read the whole thread before posting this i see someone had a similar idea already

    But its like ideas like this that show the care the community has for freddy that they come up with all these genius ideas ♡ They make me hope there are others in the dev team who have the passion of lets make freddy feel like freddy. If he becomes to overpowered can always nerf from there. Even though hearing anothet freddy nerf would probally make community laugh like one he got when came out.
  • FayeZahara
    FayeZahara Member Posts: 965
    Pig has two powers to make her immersive to her character don't think wrong to give licensed character 2 powers. Cause makes it easier for them to make them that character.
  • newduls
    newduls Member Posts: 90

    While not necessarily poorly conceived, Freddy's current power is sadly lackluster.

    In your starting state, you're absolutely 0 threat.

    additionally, your power is a 100% requirement to be able to play at all. No other killer has this requirement. Though nurse is certainly extremely difficult without her power.

    Your end game is also abysmal and while there are some builds that can make his end game frightening, they have so many prerequisite for it working out in your favor, other then it being a fun build to play to see if you can pull it off, it isn't generally successful.

    Don't get me wrong, I can play Freddy , and do so successfully even at R1. But, without a doubt, he is handicapped.

    Freddy shouldn't need to sleep people. They should passively fall asleep over time. While asleep they should experience frightening manifestations. Players appear to go down or be hooked when they aren't, generators appearing that aren't there, heart beats that aren't really, etc etc, similar to the doctor. To wake up they must be hit by Freddy. The aura reading should be removed.

    Freddy's power could be that his hand stretches from his arm and strikes you. If he hits you, he should teleport to you and then does some freddy-esk animation of glee, that last 1.5 x the regular wipe animation. The stretch should be maybe 12-15 meters long, and freddy should be rooted in place, but can control its flight path (meaning he can do it around corners), it should travel at 1.8 x the speed of the survivors. If it strikes a surface it should return (but it should automatically route over generators, through windows, and short walls). Freddy remains rooted until it returns.

  • RabidWabbitz
    RabidWabbitz Member Posts: 93

    @newduls said:
    While not necessarily poorly conceived, Freddy's current power is sadly lackluster.

    In your starting state, you're absolutely 0 threat.

    additionally, your power is a 100% requirement to be able to play at all. No other killer has this requirement. Though nurse is certainly extremely difficult without her power.

    Your end game is also abysmal and while there are some builds that can make his end game frightening, they have so many prerequisite for it working out in your favor, other then it being a fun build to play to see if you can pull it off, it isn't generally successful.

    Don't get me wrong, I can play Freddy , and do so successfully even at R1. But, without a doubt, he is handicapped.

    Freddy shouldn't need to sleep people. They should passively fall asleep over time. While asleep they should experience frightening manifestations. Players appear to go down or be hooked when they aren't, generators appearing that aren't there, heart beats that aren't really, etc etc, similar to the doctor. To wake up they must be hit by Freddy. The aura reading should be removed.

    Freddy's power could be that his hand stretches from his arm and strikes you. If he hits you, he should teleport to you and then does some freddy-esk animation of glee, that last 1.5 x the regular wipe animation. The stretch should be maybe 12-15 meters long, and freddy should be rooted in place, but can control its flight path (meaning he can do it around corners), it should travel at 1.8 x the speed of the survivors. If it strikes a surface it should return (but it should automatically route over generators, through windows, and short walls). Freddy remains rooted until it returns.

    I like the ideas of manifestations when in the dream world that trick the survivors into doing other things to keep them busy.