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devs DS nerf review bomb fears

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  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    ChesterTheMolester said:
    βLAKE said:

    I'm going offline from these forums. Too much toxicity in-game and now it leaks over to the forums. Cya killer mains. Keep crying with your idiotic logic.

    Lol you are using MLGA to avoid everyone who is better than you. 



    "I dOnT wAnt An EdGE, i OnLY WaNT tO MaKE SuRE i PlAy wITh nOoBs ThAt ARe wOrSe tHaN mE"


    Now that is a tell tale sign of a survivor main wanting to show off to some people by facing lower rank killers to look good. Did Decisive Strike build their ego up too much? I have no doubts about that? 
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    yeah, that was pretty embarrassing. i doubt blake will be back.
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Lowbei said:
    we get it, youre scared of them review bombing again because it worked last time. we warned you what would happen if you caved to them.

    like we said ages ago, and have repeated numerous times, you dont negotiate with survivormain terrorists.

    as we have told you before, no offense, but your internal dev team do NOT represent the playerbase with your rank15-20 gameplay. you need to have a team of vets (not streamers) of both sides, to discuss potential changes and test them, cuz logic.

    love you guys, but youre killing me.

    Do you want a riot? This is how you start a riot.

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    more entitled whinning lol I guess this your attempt at a review bomb?

    Good work Dev dont give these entitled killers anything
  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Lowbei said:
    fcc2014 said:

    @Lowbei said:
    we get it, youre scared of them review bombing again because it worked last time. we warned you what would happen if you caved to them.

    like we said ages ago, and have repeated numerous times, you dont negotiate with survivormain terrorists.

    as we have told you before, no offense, but your internal dev team do NOT represent the playerbase with your rank15-20 gameplay. you need to have a team of vets (not streamers) of both sides, to discuss potential changes and test them, cuz logic.

    love you guys, but youre killing me.

    Do you want a riot? This is how you start a riot.

    sounds like a blast!
    I'll get the armor and sheilds!!!
  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:
    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    I'm guessing you're a survivor main who runs DS then.. either that or you're too new to see the problem.. 
  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:
    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    Most can't even get a kill with NOED what did you expect lol
  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:
    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    I'm guessing you're a survivor main who runs DS then.. either that or you're too new to see the problem.. 
    or maybe he isn't a crybaby? not everyone cries when they fail. they own up to their mistakes something killers don't do
  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:
    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    I'm guessing you're a survivor main who runs DS then.. either that or you're too new to see the problem.. 
    Hes most likely new, give the survivorboi time then he'll be just like some of the others I encounter or you know they might end up being different than the other ya never know
  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    ChesterTheMolester said:
    The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    PhantomMask20763 said:
    The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    @yeet it's not just DS they lied about.. they also said Freddy's rework would be in the mid chapter patch. I don't see a single change for him. Not even a QoL one
    Yeah the only change I see to freddy is an indirect nerf to survivors in the dying state being able to be almost instantly healed back up which will hinder one of his only tactics that he can rarely use successfully.
    I had high hopes that he'd be buffed/reworked this patch and that Decisive would finally be out of the overpowered zone.. but for whatever reason (which I don't understand why they couldn't tell us already) they decided to delay both those things. Both of which are needed. 
    They may plan to release the Freddy rework for the next chapter so the next Killer can get the Spirit treatment. That poor soul got replaced on her own release by Wraith lol.
    Don't you diss my baby Rin!
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  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    Thetruth said:

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:

    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    I'm guessing you're a survivor main who runs DS then.. either that or you're too new to see the problem.. 

    Game was free on PSN and No I never bought any of the DLC so no DS.

    Ah so you're too new to see the problem.
  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886
    Thetruth said:

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:

    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    I'm guessing you're a survivor main who runs DS then.. either that or you're too new to see the problem.. 

    Game was free on PSN and No I never bought any of the DLC so no DS.

    just report the troll so they can lock his account again . he has zero intentions of reasoning with you.

    DS was recently in the Shrine it is a great perk and well needed to balance the playing field . They have NOED and We have DS  both of those are get out of jail free cards 

    fair is fair
  • Condorloco_26
    Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    The thing is, prior to the Spirit being released, Decisive Strike got buffed (via a juggling nerf). So that's what I find annoying. If they won't nerf DS, at least revert the juggling change. You know, to when you could make them waste their DS dropping or hooking them at the right moment.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223
    edited October 2018

    I like how people assume review bombs meant anything. Like SMH do you guys even know how game dev works? Making knee jerk reactions like that is what destroys a game. Is it really that hard to believe that maybe, the devs decided to change something people also complained about?

    This is also why game devs don't like to talk about stuff they are doing with the game behind closed doors. They make a promise, plans fall through, now they look like liars. It's why they keep their mouth shut on everything and instead drop surprise changes. They didn't like the changes to DS, so it's not happening. Yes it was a mistake to make the promise, but would you rather they break the game now and scramble to fix it later, or that we just wait for things to be done right?

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223
    edited October 2018

    @Lowbei said:
    thesuicidefox said:

    I like how people assume review bombs meant anything. Like SMH do you guys even know how game dev works? Making knee jerk reactions like that is what destroys a game. Is it really that hard to believe that maybe, the devs decided to change something people also complained about?

    yeah, the killer nerfs that happened immediately after the review bomb, right after universal praise from the vets for the previous patch, was a big coincidence. /eyeroll

    im a nigerian prince. lets talk about how i can give you my millions.

    these survivor mains are derp af

    Game dev isn't just flipping a switch overnight to change something. They broke Huntress hatchets with 2.2 and it took them what 2 weeks to get the hotfix out after people pointed out how broken they were. If it was really as you believe that change would have happened like the next day or something. If you really think someone at BHVR was scouring metacritic right after a patch so they can change something the next day you need to learn a thing or two about game dev.

    Lots of things have strange coincidences. It's literally the basis for every conspiracy theory out there. I bet you believe that 9/11 was an inside job too because it's too much of a coincidence that the towers fell straight down, but then you forget that engineers build it that way so that they can safely demolish it in the future if need be.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223
    edited October 2018

    @Lowbei said:
    all i got from your ridiculous rant was that you dont know the timeline and how long it took after the bomb to announce the decision to nerf killers.

    we get it, you dont know what youre talking about, its common around here with you survivor main derps

    All I get from your posts is that you have absolutely no idea how game development actually works. Keep that tinfoil hat on though.

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  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @Lowbei said:
    lol nobody here mentioned how long it took, you are simply grasping at straws to feel better about being laughed at. your uneducated survivormain opinion has been discarded like blakes. feel free to ragequit the forums now in embarrassment like the rest.

    Says the guy that assumes they know how game dev works or even that they know what BHVR is planning behind closed doors. The only embarrassment here is, and always has been, you. If you really want to believe they would change the game based on CLEARLY FAKE REVIEWS then you are simply an idiot.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2018
    Thetruth said:

    @Lowbei said:
    thesuicidefox said:

    I like how people assume review bombs meant anything. Like SMH do you guys even know how game dev works? Making knee jerk reactions like that is what destroys a game. Is it really that hard to believe that maybe, the devs decided to change something people also complained about?

    yeah, the killer nerfs that happened immediately after the review bomb, right after universal praise from the vets for the previous patch, was a big coincidence. /eyeroll

    im a nigerian prince. lets talk about how i can give you my millions.

    these survivor mains are derp af

    And youre salty and trash af

    lol youre a rank 20 rando and im usually rank1 on both sides most seasons. thanks for the laughs. if you are still butthurt at me later, feel free to post on my profile.
  • ItsYourBoyGuzma
    ItsYourBoyGuzma Member Posts: 797

    @PhantomMask20763 said:

    Game dev isn't just flipping a switch overnight to change something.

    EXCUSE ME???? Im assuming youre just pretending like the Freddy nerf never happened

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223
    edited October 2018

    @Lowbei said:
    irony that i know more programming languages than you, tho you probably dont know any at all lol

    comedy gold from these salty survivor mains

    LOL the only salty one here is you. You really think the devs wouldn't pushed through a change because they are scared of fake reviews on their game? Reply again with another gif that just demonstrates your saltiness please. Also keep complaining about stuff you have no clue how it works. Makes you look super smart.

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  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    ItsYourBoyGuzma said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:

    Game dev isn't just flipping a switch overnight to change something.

    EXCUSE ME???? Im assuming youre just pretending like the Freddy nerf never happened

    You talking to me? Cause I never said that. I was really upset about the Freddy nerf lol
  • Beverly
    Beverly Member Posts: 184

    Honestly I hope they don't let the review bombs get to them when it comes around. I've noticed the survivors who have been super vocal about the DS nerf typically are legacy players, streamers, or have well over 1k hours. Sometimes a nasty hybrid of all three. These are people who have been with this game since the start, and it's shocking to me how quickly they'd turn on a game that they'd been loyal to for so long over trivial stuff.

    I play survivor 90% of the time and every single person I have on my team uses the same perks (including decisive). If decisive is changed up, people can learn to play the game in a new format or utilize other perks that are more complicated to use but rewarding (Diversion, small game, etc). Currently if it's paired with an exhaustion perk, it can be disgustingly strong and the difference between life and death.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Thetruth said:

    @Lowbei said:
    Thetruth said:

    @Lowbei said:

    thesuicidefox said:

    I like how people assume review bombs meant anything. Like SMH do you guys even know how game dev works? Making knee jerk reactions like that is what destroys a game. Is it really that hard to believe that maybe, the devs decided to change something people also complained about?



yeah, the killer nerfs that happened immediately after the review bomb, right after universal praise from the vets for the previous patch, was a big coincidence. /eyeroll

im a nigerian prince. lets talk about how i can give you my millions.

    these survivor mains are derp af

    And youre salty and trash af

    lol youre a rank 20 rando and im usually rank1 on both sides most seasons. thanks for the laughs. if you are still butthurt at me later, feel free to post on my profile.

    lmao @ you thinking rank means anything in this game and as if its hard to get to rank 1. Youre a joke

    lol hims mad. rank1 is easy, thats why is even funnier that you cant get there.

    stay mad
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2018
    Beverly said:

    Honestly I hope they don't let the review bombs get to them when it comes around. I've noticed the survivors who have been super vocal about the DS nerf typically are legacy players, streamers, or have well over 1k hours. Sometimes a nasty hybrid of all three. These are people who have been with this game since the start, and it's shocking to me how quickly they'd turn on a game that they'd been loyal to for so long over trivial stuff.

    I play survivor 90% of the time and every single person I have on my team uses the same perks (including decisive). If decisive is changed up, people can learn to play the game in a new format or utilize other perks that are more complicated to use but rewarding (Diversion, small game, etc). Currently if it's paired with an exhaustion perk, it can be disgustingly strong and the difference between life and death.

    actual skilled players dont need get out of jail free cards to compete. they will adapt, or go back down to rank15 where they belong.
  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    thesuicidefox said:

    @Lowbei said:
    irony that i know more programming languages than you, tho you probably dont know any at all lol

    comedy gold from these salty survivor mains

    LOL the only salty one here is you. You really think the devs wouldn't pushed through a change because they are scared of fake reviews on their game? 

    Except that is exactly how the unregulated reviews work on steam. The issue is that most potential buyers won't read the reviews. Steam has so much ######### in its library these days that people browsing will immediately pass over a game without a positive score from a developer they don't recognize.
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Tzeentchling9 said:
    thesuicidefox said:

    @Lowbei said:
    irony that i know more programming languages than you, tho you probably dont know any at all lol

    comedy gold from these salty survivor mains

    LOL the only salty one here is you. You really think the devs wouldn't pushed through a change because they are scared of fake reviews on their game? 

    Except that is exactly how the unregulated reviews work on steam. The issue is that most potential buyers won't read the reviews. Steam has so much ######### in its library these days that people browsing will immediately pass over a game without a positive score from a developer they don't recognize.
    exactly
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  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    Thetruth said:

    @βLAKE said:
    Ugh killer mains crying again. Like the DS change is coming regardless what are you guys crying about?

    They have to whine to get these nerfs most of them are trash and can't gitgud with the skills given to them. They expect 4 kills every game.

    No, what I expect is when I play with competent survivors and I play my best I should be able to get a 2k. A tie. 3k if they screw up end game. 
  • Giche
    Giche Member Posts: 753

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:

    I'm not sure what was so unsatisfying about the DS nerf. It looked good enough to most of us. The only ones who had a problem with it were the survivor mains who relied on it to carry them.

    You mean the majority of the community ?

    Yup we know, it's sad huh ?

    @Lowbei said:

    its clearly an arrogance thing. despite all data (and logic) pointing to their lack of experience playing their own game, they still think they know balance better than their vets.

    its like the owner of a restaurant thinking hes a better cook than the head chef, because he signs the checks.

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    This whole DS nerf thing is becoming a joke now.. What does it take to just nerf the damn perk? Just get it over with I say. Sure they'll review bomb but when they realise it's doing nothing they'll forget about the nerf soon after. 

    @yeet said:
    PhantomMask20763 said:


    The_Fallen_Utopia said:

    @yeet it's not just DS they lied about.. they also said Freddy's rework would be in the mid chapter patch. I don't see a single change for him. Not even a QoL one

    Yeah the only change I see to freddy is an indirect nerf to survivors in the dying state being able to be almost instantly healed back up which will hinder one of his only tactics that he can rarely use successfully.

    stop complaining and buy more auric cells!

    Sweet, sweet Summer childs.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051

    @Giche said:

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:

    I'm not sure what was so unsatisfying about the DS nerf. It looked good enough to most of us. The only ones who had a problem with it were the survivor mains who relied on it to carry them.

    You mean the majority of the community ?

    You are so paranoid.

  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    yeet said:
    slingshotsurvivor said:
    I rarely see it used anymore... They must be looking at stats and prioritizing from there. I think survivors are more concerned about self care than DS atm...maybe?
    Just because you think that few people are using it doesn't make it suddenly free from the ability to abuse it.
    I'm confused... What did I abuse? 
  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    thesuicidefox said:

    I like how people assume review bombs meant anything. Like SMH do you guys even know how game dev works? Making knee jerk reactions like that is what destroys a game. Is it really that hard to believe that maybe, the devs decided to change something people also complained about?

    This is also why game devs don't like to talk about stuff they are doing with the game behind closed doors. They make a promise, plans fall through, now they look like liars. It's why they keep their mouth shut on everything and instead drop surprise changes. They didn't like the changes to DS, so it's not happening. Yes it was a mistake to make the promise, but would you rather they break the game now and scramble to fix it later, or that we just wait for things to be done right?

    This! ❤️👍❤️
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    [Deleted User] Posts: 0

    In the last couple days I have seen only 1 person in about 16 games use DS. Maybe they are learning to evolve?

  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    PhantomMask20763 said:
    Lowbei said:
    fcc2014 said:

    @Lowbei said:
    we get it, youre scared of them review bombing again because it worked last time. we warned you what would happen if you caved to them.

    like we said ages ago, and have repeated numerous times, you dont negotiate with survivormain terrorists.

    as we have told you before, no offense, but your internal dev team do NOT represent the playerbase with your rank15-20 gameplay. you need to have a team of vets (not streamers) of both sides, to discuss potential changes and test them, cuz logic.

    love you guys, but youre killing me.

    Do you want a riot? This is how you start a riot.

    sounds like a blast!
    I'll get the armor and sheilds!!!
    The Freddys will riot for their buffs while the rest of us riot for nerfs! lol jk
  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    edited October 2018
    PhantomMask20763 said:
    Lowbei said:
    fcc2014 said:

    @Lowbei said:
    we get it, youre scared of them review bombing again because it worked last time. we warned you what would happen if you caved to them.

    like we said ages ago, and have repeated numerous times, you dont negotiate with survivormain terrorists.

    as we have told you before, no offense, but your internal dev team do NOT represent the playerbase with your rank15-20 gameplay. you need to have a team of vets (not streamers) of both sides, to discuss potential changes and test them, cuz logic.

    love you guys, but youre killing me.

    Do you want a riot? This is how you start a riot.

    sounds like a blast!
    I'll get the armor and sheilds!!!
    The Freddys will riot for their buffs while the rest of us riot for nerfs! lol jk.. duplicate comment? This was something I sent 10 hours ago it only showed up now? What? 
  • Amelia
    Amelia Member Posts: 84
    edited October 2018

    I'm here to support my fellow Leatherface Gang members !

    DS shall perish ! 'supposed to be some dramatic voice ok'