Let's talk a little about Spirit
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no 1 meghead right here ready to admit I got outgamerd by a spirit on coldwind
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I’m fine with any change to Spirit, as long as they don’t severely butcher her.
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Her power doesn’t have major penalties when you play Spirit correctly which is going for short bursts. If you do that on every loop and miss one time, the power comes back in like 3-4 seconds.
I’ve said this before, but gen speeds do need fix it’s not like I’m saying Spirit is the only thing that is in need of a change.
That is exactly how I feel. It is possible to get verbally abused when playing any killer but my gosh it is off the charts when I play Spirit.
That could work.
I literally just played against a Spirit on Coldwind last night lol.
Same
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Spirit is anything but fine lol.
Not everyone wants to always play stealthy against a killer with little to no counterplay.
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First sentence you wrote was "sPiRiT hAs nO cOuNtErPlAy". I skipped the rest.
Stop beating a dead horse. Maurice doesn't appreciate it.
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I meant to say she has no reliable counterplay. There is counterplay but it’s choosing an action and hoping the Spirit ######### up.
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To be fair you can't complain if you refuse to use one of the killer counters.
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Is it really a counter though? You can play stealthy against any killer so I wouldn't really call it counterplay but rather a specific playstyle for survivors.
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It's not bullet proof counter but it is her weakness. You won't out stealth wraith who has power just for finding survivors easily. It's well known that most strong anti loop killers you need to be stealthy against. Cannot say how easy 4ks i got with the nurse just simply because they refused stealth even if they had good map for it like swamps etc.
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I don't want to use paper against rock because I main scissors, nerf rock bruh.
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No counter should be bullet proof though.
Regardless, stealth is a pretty solid way to deal with them, especially if you're actually putting some thought into it instead of mindlessly repeating 2-3 patterns you've learnt 3 years ago like a lot of spirit haters do with looping.
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I think everyone would agree with the lack of counterplay, I had few Idea and think it would be a good place to share them:
first make that the shadow on the ground cast by surrounding light by spirit is visible while in phasing (don'T ask any physical reasoning for that pls ;)
but she will be able to see survivor's shadow cast by environmental light aswell while in phasing.
Also make that she can be kinda reveal by flash lights, but her form when revealed by flashlight would be pitch darkness with white eyes and mouth (just to make her even more spooky).
therefor she would also be able to see flashlight's light while phased, and could be blinded.
thus a counter would be to use the useless widelens flashlight and sweep to reveal her but doing that would also reveal you to her aswell.
Also the current situation of the meta and counterplay of spirit being:
injured survivor are too loud -> Iron Will become meta;
then spirit got hard time to hear meta players -> Stridoe become meta for her;
all that dynamics is reaking fundamental flaws: Grunt of pain are too loud...
SOLUTIONS...
-thus reduce grunt of pain by 50% across the board.
-Rework Iron will into a preks that prevent your from shouting whenever it's from being injured, falling down or anything you won't shout anymore
-Rework Calm Spirit to prevent crows from being disturbed even when running, unless you pass through them.
-then Rework No Mither to reduce grunt of pain by 100% thus if you wanna be silent while injured you would have to be injured the whole game.
Then you gonna have 2 meta and 1 meme perks removed, and playing against or with Spirit will be less perks based for your success.
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