Refining the Oni and his addons
Even a killer as good as Oni could use some tweaks. I thought it would be fun to come up with them just to make him the perfect killer, I honestly think he is the most balanced killer who is strong and fun as hell to play as or against.
Power changes: Slight tweaks
- The passive regeneration of "blood fury" can now fully complete the power bar (keep in mind it is extremely slow even with the addons, VERY slow).
- It now takes 1.75 seconds to charge up demon dash. The scalped topknot reduces this by .25 seconds. Since my other one seemed a bit too strong, I have done the same thing with different numbers. The charge time feels just a wee bit sluggish at places, even this small number change would help and make the scalped topknot feel like a green tier addon. It would also not make it totally useless.
Addon tweaks/buffs: To make the useless ones not totally useless and fix his ultra rares
Scalped topknot: Rare addon
"Moderately reduces the charge time required to activate demon dash" (.25 seconds, already explained above)
Rotting rope: Common addon
"Slightly increases the blood orb detection range (2 meters) + Slightly increases the blood orb absorption range (2 meters). "
Just a small tweak that makes sense with a brown addon and would keep this addon a brown one.
Yakuyoke talisman: Common addon
- When holding the absorption button, all blood orbs within a 6 meter radius of you will be absorbed. (Instead of having to look in their direction)
Just a QoL thing, it is a brown addon.
Child's wooden sword: Uncommon addon
"Moderately increases the blood orb detection range (3 meters) + Moderately increases the blood orb absorption range (3 meters)."
Same as the rotting rope buff, just with an extra meter of orb succ.
Polished Maedate: Uncommon addon
"Slightly increases Yamaoka's wrath passive charge rate + Slightly increases the amount of progress towards "blood fury" the Oni gets from hitting a healthy survivor with a basic attack (10% extra progress)."
This addon is pretty useless, so I thought I would give it an effect that would make it an actual yellow tier addon that is something, but not ridiculously strong.
Shattered Wakizashi: Rare addon
"Moderately increases Yamaoka's wrath passive charge rate + Moderately increases the amount of progress towards "blood fury" the Oni gets when hitting a healthy survivor with a basic attack (25% extra progress)."
This addon is also pretty useless like its weaker version described above. Like I said for the weaker version, I buffed this so it has a much better use but not absurdly powerful.
Renjiro's bloody glove: Ultra-rare addon
"All survivors can see blood orbs, a survivor's aura is revealed for 2 seconds whenever they come into contact with a blood orb, this effect stacks for each blood orb touched. Reduces the number of blood orbs survivors drop by half."
I don't know why this addon was nerfed by making survivors absorbing it, you have to use a whole build around this addon to get it to work nicely. An ultra-rare addon should be an ultra-rare for a reason, meaning it should have a powerful effect. It would not be overpowered, but a little overwhelming for survivors (just like other powerful killer addons). The survivors can already see the orbs, so they can walk around them to avoid them which slows them down if they want to sneak around if the Oni just keeps letting them bleed while holding his power.
This idea will make it strong, yet balanced.
Iridescent family crest: Ultra-rare addon
"When "blood fury" is active and the Oni is demon dashing, survivors within 8 meters of the Oni will scream. Any survivor who is in the terror radius of the Oni when he activates "blood fury" will scream revealing their location for 4 seconds."
I think it is a neat idea to buff this addon in this way because this addon is pretty useless honestly. You have to fully charge a demon strike and waste time to get it to work. Funny thing is, you can't even look up in time to find the survivor who is closeby from the notification bubble. Notification bubbles are also weird and inaccurate. I really think that this change to the addon would be great and make it have an awesome use. I don't think it is necessarily OP either, he can much better patrol with his power to find survivors and when activating it he can check the area for survivors. You might say it is just a better doctor static blast, but I don't think it is that bad because keep in mind, this is an ultra-rare addon meaning it should have some crazy effects that are powerful and really make a killer intimidating.
With that, I come to a close with giving Oni some fine-tuning. Feel free to comment on these changes, I would appreciate it, I worked hard on this.
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Even with those changes u are better off with a duration one and ink lion, and not a fan of changing the base 2s to start demon dash, yes they are some tiles u can't play with the dash and that's completely fine. Other then that yeah they seem fine, especially IFC neat concept
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I don't really agree with your Oni's charge time reduction, maybe it could get a slight reduction to 1.75 seconds, but not 1.5 seconds imo, and topknot could be changed to -0.25 seconds, like you suggested, that's fine.
I like the add-on changes! I would personally change Iri Family Crest to have the same effect as before, but the activation condition would be when downing a Survivor in Demon Dash, not when missing, so like mini Infectious Fright.
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I think you've overtuned him a bit. You have to keep in mind he's already in a very good place. I think buffing his base demon dash while nerfing the topknot may be an okay idea, but I wonder if 1.75 seconds base and -.50 for the topknot would be better. Also it's clear to me that we have different opinions on just how strong iridescent addons should be. Personally, I'm not down with auto-losing as survivor just because the killer brought 2 ultra rare addons this game. I'm not sure what to do with the Glove, but it was too strong before, though it is also too weak now. I also think the first sentence of your Crest suggestion is a fantastic addon by itself. The other part could also be a reasonable iri on its own, but I think both is too much. That said, I think I like the rest of your ideas.
I also think his addons that increase movement speed while absorbing blood need to be reworked into lesser versions of the topknot. Also the ones that decrease the consumption penalty of downing a survivor need to be changed because they are simply outclassed by the duration addons. I suggest either increasing the turn rate of Demon Dash (by small numbers), or allowing a much greater turn rate when coming out of Demon Dash.
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I think Oni should have his Scalped topknot completely changed. He is already absurdly strong at getting downs and much easier to control than Billy. It's already well established he is best evaded while in power because when you master demon dash, there isn't hell of a lot a survivor can do with the exception of a couple tiles. When I'm against Billy for example, I'm very much glad to draw attention and if the Billy is exceptionally skilled they will land those curved chainsaws.
Billy's old instasaw addons were the same premise of Scalped topknot. Reducing charge time. I strongly believe BHVR need to be very careful with addons that do this. They're not balanced. lol
Sure slightly lower base demon dash activation but there shouldn't be topknot levels of charge reduction. There are some great clips on YT showcasing how overpowered that addon is. It's undeniable.
I want Oni to get the Billy treatment but without changing his base kit. Billy's OP stuff got fixed then BHVR were like we'll add a overheat on hillbilly which nobody asked for. I hope that doesn't happen to Oni. That said, in my opinion I'd verse old Billy over Oni any day.
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Yeah, I fixed it. It did seem a bit too strong.
I don't think his turning speed should be changed, mayyyybe a slight turning addon that can't be stacked but really good turning on Oni would be stronger than the topknot. I also don't want to over buff his addons with effects that could be strong when stacked.
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I changed it to 1.75 at base and -.25 with the ST, will that be alright? The main reason I want to change it is to make the ST feel like a green addon and put it in where it's supposed to be. With this change, it will still be good, just not his best addon good.
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The main point of changing the charge time was to make the ST an actual green addon. I reduced the numbers since people agreed that it was too powerful before. I think that these changes should be better to balance out the ST with just a little compensation.
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I reduced the charge times accordingly.
Changing the IFC to a mini infectious fright I feel wouldn't be that great. You would only even get use out of it when in bloody fury mode, and you could just run infectious fright instead to completely overrule it and be able to use it normally.
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Oni does not need any buffs or nerfs, should worry more about weaker killers like Trapper or Pig <3
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Oni absolutely does not need any buffs
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You are telling me that his iri family crest is fine? I am only tweaking his base power and buffing his useless addons.
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I would make this sort of list for Pig and Trapper, but I will wait until they are changed first. I would change their addons, but their powers are so weird and RNG reliant, if I changed the addons there is a good chance the devs will buff them. They have already said that Pig will get some changes in their last QnA.
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