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Freddy does not Need Nerf
He is really one of the fair killers. He have counterplay against him. You just need to stay awake. That is all. And when you are in dreamworld other survivors can awake you. Or you can awake yourself with fail skill checks. Or dreamboxes. Simple.
When you are not in dream world, Freddy loses so much power. All killers fair enough. Just Spirit need counterplay, that is all.
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I must be living in a different universe if he doesn't need tweaks, but yea he has counterplay, but at the same time his kit is overly bloated.
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He gets everything passively or with very little effort and survivors are rarely in a position where waking up is the best course of action due to the sheer time investment required.
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How little effort? Freddy is one of the area control killers. You need to play smart. You need to use your dream pallets or snares good places. Also you need to keep people in dreamworld. He is good gen def killer. That is perfect against gen rushing. And also you need luck. If you teleport wrong gen, you will lose time and prob survs will finish other gen. Clearly fair killer.
Can you explain me how Spirit mains need effort? Her power is unstoppable. And when you hit surv, that surv cant escape or hide if he/she has not iron will. Spirit is only op killer for now.
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Survivors fall asleep every minute just because Freddy is on the map. That's literally effortless.
Spirit needs to know how a lot of things work in DbD, because she literally can't see survivors or blood pools.
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He is so short while he's lunge can be 5 m long
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The main issue with him is his ease of use. Sleep cycles make staying awake consistently difficult and his snares are easy to use and very effective
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so he is the only killer in the game who never has to slow down his movement speed which was always weird to me
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Spirit does not need to know that lol
Just control gens, if you hear something, track them and hit easly. Easiest killer in DbD.
Survivors fall asleep true but you can awake. It is not to hard. And after awake you have enough time to finish one gen or heal someone. And when survivors are in dreamworld they are not dying. Freddy still need to find and hit them. And in dreamworld survivors still have counterplay. Freddy still need to play smart.
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Just control gens, if you hear something, track them and hit easly. Easiest killer in DbD.
Have you actually played Spirit against good survivors?
Survivors fall asleep true but you can awake. It is not to hard. And after awake you have enough time to finish one gen or heal someone. And when survivors are in dreamworld they are not dying. Freddy still need to find and hit them. And in dreamworld survivors still have counterplay. Freddy still need to play smart.
Yes, you can wake up, you just need to travel to the opposite end of the map or miss a skill check and give away your location, in addition to setting back your progress on whatever it is that you're doing. You could also have someone wake you, but that gets slower every single time, to the point it's not worthwhile any more.
60 seconds is not enough to finish a gen, gens take 80 seconds.
The more survivors are in the Dream World, the stronger Freddy gets. And survivors get in the Dream World automatically, through no effort of your own.
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I think your argument crumbles when you mention that hitting a survivor makes them fall asleep. It's also not fair forcing survivors to run around huge maps to clocks just to wake them up for 1 minute.
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I hope his nerf causes a drop in Freddy players because man I’m so sick of facing him every other game. I don’t want him nerfed to the ground, I just want him to have a higher skill ceiling while being just as strong.
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They should either make his hit not put you in dream world
or make all the clocks usable
or buff the amount of time you stay awake.
Needing to spend ######### tons of time to go to the clock for just 60 seconds of awakeness is kinda bs considering freddy just need one hits to put you back in.
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Just stay awake
I agree he maybe don't need nerfs, but would be nice to have QOL changes for him as solo survivor as the game can get rather frustrating when your team is not the best. Freddy will get crushed by SWF most times, but a solo team is like a walk on the beach for him
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A higher skill ceiling would be a buff, not a nerf. You mean a higher skill floor.
This is not complicated, just think of where the ceiling is: the top.
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1 question: do you ever play solo queue?
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His kit needs to be harder to use. Nothing else.
He shouldn't be made weaker, if all, he even needs buffs.
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So many games ends before that get slower. So there is not point, sorry.
80 seconds? You are not alone in that game you know? You have teammates. 4 v 1? You will finish gen before you fall asleep. If you are unlucky you would be alone on gen but usually survs doing gen together. So that is not problem.
Freddy reworked you know? He can use him powers only in dream world. Old Feddy was invisible but he lost that power. So fair enough. He cant get people to dream world like Old Freddy you know. He using dream snares/pallets with M2. So that is imposible. Solve is people will fall asleep in time.
And about Spirit. She destroying swfs so well. Solo survivors have not chance against her. And yes she is so op.
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So many games ends before that get slower. So there is not point, sorry.
80 seconds? You are not alone in that game you know? You have teammates. 4 v 1? You will finish gen before you fall asleep. If you are unlucky you would be alone on gen but usually survs doing gen together. So that is not problem.
Freddy reworked you know? He can use him powers only in dream world. Old Feddy was invisible but he lost that power. So fair enough. He cant get people to dream world like Old Freddy you know. He using dream snares/pallets with M2. So that is imposible. Solve is people will fall asleep in time.
And about Spirit. She destroying swfs so well. Solo survivors have not chance against her. And yes she is so op.
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It depends how to play him and the perks. I dont use all these perks that high rank players use. There has been survivors escaped from me and they were rank red. i know i have survived playing against Freddy players. it makes sense about the dream world and none dream world because it is true in the movies too. i played a game yesterday and everyone got away they were all red ranks.. i guess they stopped believing in Freddy haha. i need more souls to make me stronger. lol.
if you play Freddy well with perks that are killer you will win, just like other killers you play well and you use a big build of perks. it is the perks added together that make him stronger, added on top to how many hours you have as him. i see a lot more freddy players lately but they are higher ranks.
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I think it depends on players internet and lag. I always wait until i am right up the survivors arse to hit them. I also play cross platform i have played against a freddy and they have gotten me from a long reach but i have had a fair long distance i gotten away from him but they also messaged showed me her was very close to me. it is one of those things i guess.
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Spam snares at every loop with no thought or cooldown, then teleport to a gen with Pop or Ruin and a gen info perk. Effortless gameplay. Everything else is completely passive, even your ability to "actively" put survivors to sleep comes naturally with your basic attack.
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So? Him snares fast but snares are not good like Trapper's traps or Hag's traps. Just makes survivors little slower. Teleporting is good but you cant teleport forever. You need to wait for reload. And if you teleport wrong gen ( noone on it ) you will lose great time. And ofcourse him basic attacks will get survivors to dream world. Freddy lives in dream world, hello.
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He's a very strong killer with more than most in his base kit and also one of the easiest to play. He definitely needs some tweaks.
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His snares make looping completely impossible and his teleporting cooldown is a negligible factor when he gets to use it exactly when he needs to.
Plus there's perks to make it so you don't teleport to the wrong generator.
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No he does not but he needs changes. The dreamworld could be made less annoying to be in and the sound of Freddy getting close in the dreamworld "EEEOOO E E OOO" could be changed to something scary instead of this very annoying sound.
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Freddy need buff, not nerf. What would you change about Freddy?
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Make him actively put survivors to sleep and replace snares with aura reading. Basically, I'd make him Old Freddy but with his gen teleporting.
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Then there needs to be more viable options for staying awake, and remove almost instantaneous gen teleporting. Yes, he absolutely does need a nerf.
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i don't think he needs a nerf. but make his power more fun to use. like putting puddles and hitting is meh. the fake pallets are fun i guess.
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I have only seen people play him recently, but that is because i was matched with red ranks, i have not came across any other Freddys until these past few days.
i main him and will still main him if he gets changes again :)
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can you tell me what the counter play is to his snares? i'd love to know if you know something i don't.
you can't destroy them. you can't crouch walk over them. what's the counter when he's chasing you and spamming them in a loop? (besides "leave the area" which isn't really counter play since he doesn't slow down when he's placing them)
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the counter play to his snare is being awake since they only affect sleeping survivor but you have to wake up by giving away your position, wasting a teammates time or going to the other side of the map.
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Does not need a nerf? Correct.
Needs to be made more skillful? Yes.
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yes and that only counters them when you're not actively being chased (useless). if he starts a chase with you when your sleep timer is more than halfway done then good luck.
can't wait for the nerfs.
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When he is not after you, you can destroy him snares. Just walk on them and they will go. Simple. Freddy is not op.
Nurse, Spirit still op killers. Nurse is usually unstoppable if nurse player is not new.
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you have to be asleep to do that. and your whole thing you keep saying is "stay awake". so which is it?
i would rather play against a nurse over a freddy any day. i'm a solo q player and freddy is hell.
with a nurse, if i'm winning it's because i'm outplaying her. if i get outplayed by a nurse, i 100% respect them because they put a lot of time and effort into getting good with that character. with freddy...you just have to hope he's insanely bad because his kit allows him to do way way way too much. the skill ceiling is the floor. it shouldn't be that way.
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A killer being that good without needing much skill is not ok, if you just tell a rank 20 how to play freddy he would play nearly the same way as a rank one that is how little skill you need.
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Nurse and Spirit also perform considerably worse than Freddy at all ranks, so if they're OP, where does that put Freddy?
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You can stun Freddy, you can destroy Freddy's traps, Freddy can teleport wrong gen, so teleport power need chance. You can see Freddy comes from where, so you can loop him.
Nurse need different gameplay against her but she is still so op. Because with add-ons she is like godness. Nurse can destroy all team in minute. Can Freddy do that? % 1 chance.
And Spirit. She just has not counterplay against her. You just need to be quiet and hide. But when you get injured that is going to be imposible. You need to use perks against her. And you cant know when you will get Spirit, so you would waste your perk slots.
But ye Freddy is op. Because Freddy mains need to play smarter. If Freddy dont play smart and uses powers random he would lose most of matches. Because him powers give him area control and he really defend it. If he doesnt, you can get Freddy down. And you know Freddy is m1 killer, him m2 powers not gives him one hit down or not making him faster.
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You can stun Nurse and Spirit as well. Neither have traps. Both can misalign their transportation abilities. You can see Nurse coming, you can hear Spirit. And if you can loop Freddy, that Freddy is an idiot, since he can kill a loop by dropping a trap. Good luck looping anything when you're crippled.
Nurse is the worst performing killer by a massive margin, because she has such harsh counterplay. Once she starts her blink, she has to commit to it, and if the survivor throws her off, she gets stunned for about three seconds, during which she cannot see. She has incredible potential, sure, but even red ranks struggle to make her work. This in contrast to Freddy, who is extremely successful in anyone's hands.
No counterplay against Spirit, except for the counterplay against Spirit. She, too, can be thrown for a loop once she commits to her phase, though it's much harder and far less punishing. But Spirit has strong skill expression, and if a Spirit hunts you down with Phasewalk, she did something very right.
Freddy might be an M1 killer, but he can jump across the map and easily kill a loop with a massive slow. And if he does jump the map, he leaves no time for survivors to get away, since the teleport is that damn fast.
Not to mention that his powers passively drain time from the survivors, merely by merit of existing.
Try as you might, there's a reason that, while most killers are somewhere between 50-65% kill rate, fluctuating between ranks, Freddy is at 75%+, at all ranks.
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I just think they should make it so that survivors can wake up with any clock instead of having to run all the way to the other side of the map. I mean that can really chew up a lot of time.
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