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Why are survivors punished...

...for not interacting w/ killer?! Like, the object is to get gens done and escape, yet you will 100% depip if you don't run the killer around a little.


SO...


If survivors are going to lose BPs and PIPs for this idiocy, then KILLERS should lose points and de-PIP for camping/tunneling.


K, thanks!

Comments

  • Caleegi
    Caleegi Member Posts: 410

    Oh you have done it now...start running before killers come with pitchforks

  • Mercês
    Mercês Member Posts: 376

    You should think that as a reminder that you have to split killer's hooks around your teammates. If there's someone on death hook and you've not been hooked yet, you should at least take a protection hit or do something to gain tempo for your team. If everybody dies and you've stealthy'd all game without being hooked or chased, it's pretty much your fault everybody is dead, because you could have bought a lot of time for your team being chased, and if you're good enough, you could've carried (almost) alone. That's why you depip.

  • Xzan
    Xzan Member Posts: 907

    And Killers get punished for being to efficient.

    As others said do something different instead of tunneling gens.

  • Midori_21
    Midori_21 Member Posts: 724

    I mean, killers get punished if they kill survivors too quickly. So the same defence can be made for killer: the objective is to kill survivors, yet if you do it too fast you will either depip or black pip.

  • Harold_Shipman
    Harold_Shipman Member Posts: 737

    It comes to something when you have pop 5 gens, 99 the gates and then decide you have to go and get somebody hooked so that you can get altruism and chase points in order to pip up.

    Likewise, I've downed all 4 survivors nearly immediately and then had to let one escape and unhook/pick up the others to avoid the depip before. If they then go on to win the match, I can still pip up, whereas if i'd hooked them and won i'd probably depip? Its very odd.

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,781

    Camping and tunneling is the killer working on their only objective.

    Survivors have one as well (generators), you don't need to be chased by the killer. Also, rank does not matter all that much.

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960

    Pip system is flawed but It prevents blendettes from Infesting higher ranks, usually you can still rank up to near red rank if you don't interact with killer, but in exchange you have to do everything else flawlessly.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    It's the same on both sides. The Devs are trying to entice interaction between the two sides. And they reward you for doing this with emblems. In the end you play for your own win definitions, emblems be damned. So if you want to play stealthy, well your chaser emblem may suffer a bit.

    I personally like the interaction element of the game. Whether I win or lose that particular moment, it is the funnest part of the game for me. Doing gennys is means to escape and an important part of being a team player. Same with some tactics, like slugging. Necessary to control the flow of the game, but not the funnest part for me.

  • Hex_Salt
    Hex_Salt Member Posts: 445

    Killers do lose pips for camping so this point is fully redundant k thanks

  • immoraldemise
    immoraldemise Member Posts: 117

    No. This is absolutely ABSURD and you know it. Because taking a hit typically does nothing in my experience. They continue to tunnel regardless.

    There is no LOGICAL reason to interact with the killer. This is forced. If i can do 5 gens, break all the totems, even heal and break hooks, i'm still down ranking. Why? That's stupid. If i didn't do anything but hide in the corner all game, thats the only way your argument holds merit.

    Especially if the killer is camping or tunneling. Which is the majority of my games. Its an M1 simulator or go rush and die. Yall are high on wack stuff man.

    Why am i not getting BP because of the killers action and not my own? This is a forced interaction considering more than 3/4 of the games I play the killer does toxic crap like this and i'm not playing with anyone. I'm solo. So, Why should i be forced to run BT because the killer is playing a garbage playstyle? No thanks. I'd rather first hook suicide or DC. Don't even get me started on killers who AFK or Bot. Waste of Addons and offerings. No punishments are handed out for this type of behavior(despite it being against the rules). If so, you'd rarely see these types of games.

    Have you actually played the damn game? Forcing the player to interact with the killer is trash. 8k, 4 categories, but theres NO Stealth category? lol in a cat and mouse game that the dev calls a "party game" that isn't competitive but has rank and mmr?

    Killers struggle to comprehend that a 4k isn't a win, and survivors struggle to comprehend surviving isnt either. That being said, No one but the killer should be punished for camping or tunneling somebody(outside of farming off the hook). When the killer behaves in this type of way, they do not give 2 damns about rank or MMR, they're typically doing it to be toxic on purpose.

  • Mercês
    Mercês Member Posts: 376

    Looks like taking a protection hit for someone who is on death hook is a huge deal for you, lol.