Darn, I would love to buy BLOODPOINTS

Rellewd
Rellewd Member Posts: 195
edited October 2018 in General Discussions

truely at this time and for this only reason, I really want SPIKED BOOTS AND MOONSHINE FOREVER, I TEND TO STAY WITH MOONSHINE but SPIKED BOOTS are much more rare and I never skip the webs presents even when i focus on them addons I can stack them but now I am hurting as sometimes I will when low on them and I notice Moonshine comes more frequent than them Boots so SEND HELP.

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  • Rellewd
    Rellewd Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2018

    @Orion said:
    No.

    why?
    and spiked boots are uncommon as moonshine is very rare i'll mention.

  • Countfunkular
    Countfunkular Member Posts: 405
    You can buy blood. You just need to sacrifice some iridescent 
  • Rellewd
    Rellewd Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2018

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Buying bloodpoints would make it akin to a pay-to-win game. If DBD ever goes down that route I'll probably throw in the towel.

    i know i know just saying, sucks I just used my last spiked boots and now must kill to gain BP faster, I just like to steer around maps when I drink, i can drink alot hence why i am out of spiked boots even though moonshine is ultra rare and i get them in the web more I will say, nothing more fun for me then having spiked boots with moonshine while playing this drunk...

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Orion said:

    No.

    @Orion
    I don't usually agree with you but here's my up vote
  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    Let them buy bloodpoints...10bp=$1.99

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,917

    Personally, I wouldn't care if they sold 1,000,000 BP for 5 dollars or something. The kind of bloodpoints it takes to get anywhere in this game, that is a drop in the bucket. So someone would have to pay quite a bit of money to max even one character out with purchases. Keeping the money flowing in means they will keep developing the game. And personally, I want them to keep developing the game. With all that said, I kind of doubt it will happen.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    Bloodpoints are for what you play and should stay that.

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142

    Why do we feed the troll? It's obvious bait based on the original thread that, if serious, they could have just posted in.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/24058/paying-for-blood-points#latest

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @Rellewd said:
    truely at this time and for this only reason, I really want SPIKED BOOTS AND MOONSHINE FOREVER, I TEND TO STAY WITH MOONSHINE but SPIKED BOOTS are much more rare and I never skip the webs presents even when i focus on them addons I can stack them but now I am hurting as sometimes I will when low on them and I notice Moonshine comes more frequent than them Boots so SEND HELP.

    Guys like you are the reason why the gaming industry kills games to make money nowadays

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Rellewd said:
    truely at this time and for this only reason, I really want SPIKED BOOTS AND MOONSHINE FOREVER, I TEND TO STAY WITH MOONSHINE but SPIKED BOOTS are much more rare and I never skip the webs presents even when i focus on them addons I can stack them but now I am hurting as sometimes I will when low on them and I notice Moonshine comes more frequent than them Boots so SEND HELP.

    Guys like you are the reason why the gaming industry kills games to make money nowadays

    Yeah, I mean, why play a Behavior game when they get the exact model they're looking for in any EA game?

  • chococri
    chococri Member Posts: 355
    Why not sell addons you don't want and get in return bloodpoints? I have a shitton of flashlight, map and keys addons I don't want or won't use anyway. 
  • Rellewd
    Rellewd Member Posts: 195

    @HellDescent said:
    Let them buy bloodpoints...10bp=$1.99

    i feel it, as in i am speaking as if we are on a different plain, its never going to be pay to win... CAN YOU DIG IT?!

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378
    No...and more no....I really enjoy this game and while Inplay casually, I get enough Bloodpoints to continue progression, even if its a grind...and have had no problem buying cosmetics that I enjoy...those are truly optional and my choice.  The ability to skip grinds/progression is a bane on video games that's beyond greedy for companies to implement & push.  It undermines the work and time mostmost of us have put into the game and would expound the issue of artificial grind (more of) to entice players to fork over money to progress faster.

    Don't even SUGGEST such a ridiculously shi**y idea like buying progression. If such a thing was ever implemented, I will delete the game and never touch a product by this company again
  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    Personally, I wouldn't care if they sold 1,000,000 BP for 5 dollars or something. The kind of bloodpoints it takes to get anywhere in this game, that is a drop in the bucket. So someone would have to pay quite a bit of money to max even one character out with purchases. Keeping the money flowing in means they will keep developing the game. And personally, I want them to keep developing the game. With all that said, I kind of doubt it will happen.

    Agree. There is no prize for ranking up faster is there? If someone buys their way to lvl 50, they still have to play to increase rank (assuming they want to).

    I could play crappy or on bp events and still be lvl 50 at rank 20....Or when season resets.

    Same as other games offering paid level boost.

    Can anyone give an example of how it would hurt?

    While I am past the point of paying to level a character, I would have appreciated it earlier while trying to level LF...I probably would have bought some bps to speed that process along.

    Missed $$ for this developer.
  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    Please don't give the developers more bad ideas.

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378
    You lot championing such things don't have the foresight to understand that it sets a precedent for game companies/developers to rig games and their progression to accommodate people having to buy those microtransactions...pay to NOT play the game. 

    Don't be ignorant, this affects the entire gaming industry...to where save slots are being sold in fully priced games. It tells EVERY game company what's more easily pushed into games....I hate this line but it really rings true: "You are what's wrong with X".  Your wanton "I wanna skip this part" of the game exemplifies companies making grinds and gameplay worse because people will throw money at it...this all started with F2P mobile games, or games that were $1-5 ...its now a practice in games priced $20-60
  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    Orion said:

    No.

    What he said ☝️
  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    Nikkiwhat said:
    You lot championing such things don't have the foresight to understand that it sets a precedent for game companies/developers to rig games and their progression to accommodate people having to buy those microtransactions...pay to NOT play the game. 

    Don't be ignorant, this affects the entire gaming industry...to where save slots are being sold in fully priced games. It tells EVERY game company what's more easily pushed into games....I hate this line but it really rings true: "You are what's wrong with X".  Your wanton "I wanna skip this part" of the game exemplifies companies making grinds and gameplay worse because people will throw money at it...this all started with F2P mobile games, or games that were $1-5 ...its now a practice in games priced $20-60
    This is so far off from the real cause of microtransactions but it's too late for me to type an appropriate response.

    Dead By Daylight isn't gonna fix this problem so it's better if they lean into it, make some money and keep developing the game.
  • Eight
    Eight Member Posts: 513

    @chococri said:
    I have a shitton of flashlight, map and keys addons I don't want or won't use anyway. 

    Hel yeah. Bloody sick of maps and map add-ons. I do my best to avoid them in the bloodwebs, but still end up with way too many.

    If I couldn't sell them back, I'd rather give them to someone to might actually use them.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    Dead By Daylight is play to win, we don't want it to become pay to win. 
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    pay for bp?
    lol no
  • RWoodrow
    RWoodrow Member Posts: 270

    Can anyone give an example of how it would hurt?

    Missed $$ for this developer.

    Alot of people would leave the game because it would be pay2win. The number of people who would leave the game for this reason alone would be quite large I imagine. I'm sure EA could ballpark a number. Que times would skyrocket overnight.

    Alot of people would leave the game because part of the draw of this game for them is the grind. This drives the wait time up even further.

    People, tired of waiting hours for a game, would find another game to play.

    This game dies completely.

    At first, admittedly, they might turn a tiny profit off selling bps but they would lose more off future chapters and cosmetic item sells because who would buy DLC for a game no one plays?
  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    Or they could reduce the grind so you don't feel the need to pay.

  • Akuma
    Akuma Member Posts: 407

    No p2w

  • Eight
    Eight Member Posts: 513

    @MojoTheFabulous said:
    Or they could reduce the grind so you don't feel the need to pay.

    Then what else would we do? It's not like we have a story to work through etc. or anything to build. The game is the grind.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    @Rellewd tell you what, give me your Steam login data and whenever you're not playing, I'll play with your account, earning you a nice amount of extra Bp.
    For a reasonable hourly charge, obviously.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    @Eight said:

    @MojoTheFabulous said:
    Or they could reduce the grind so you don't feel the need to pay.

    Then what else would we do? It's not like we have a story to work through etc. or anything to build. The game is the grind.

    And paying to remove the grind also removes the grind.

  • Eight
    Eight Member Posts: 513

    @MojoTheFabulous said:
    And paying to remove the grind also removes the grind.

    Yup. And I'm against being able to buy shards or bloodpoints.

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    RWoodrow said:

    Can anyone give an example of how it would hurt?

    Missed $$ for this developer.

    Alot of people would leave the game because it would be pay2win. The number of people who would leave the game for this reason alone would be quite large I imagine. I'm sure EA could ballpark a number. Que times would skyrocket overnight.

    Alot of people would leave the game because part of the draw of this game for them is the grind. This drives the wait time up even further.

    People, tired of waiting hours for a game, would find another game to play.

    This game dies completely.

    At first, admittedly, they might turn a tiny profit off selling bps but they would lose more off future chapters and cosmetic item sells because who would buy DLC for a game no one plays?
    I guess I am not understanding how buying blood points is pay to win? I could play for hours to level up a character to unlock a teachable and probably rank up in the process, or I could buy blood points to do the same thing (and not rank up, so I would still be rank 20).

    I don't see how people buying blood points would effect q times since it doesn't affect rank?
  • TheDarkLycan
    TheDarkLycan Member Posts: 435

    @Attackfrog said:
    RWoodrow said:


    Attackfrog said:

    Can anyone give an example of how it would hurt?

    Missed $$ for this developer.

    Alot of people would leave the game because it would be pay2win. The number of people who would leave the game for this reason alone would be quite large I imagine. I'm sure EA could ballpark a number. Que times would skyrocket overnight.

    Alot of people would leave the game because part of the draw of this game for them is the grind. This drives the wait time up even further.

    People, tired of waiting hours for a game, would find another game to play.

    This game dies completely.

    At first, admittedly, they might turn a tiny profit off selling bps but they would lose more off future chapters and cosmetic item sells because who would buy DLC for a game no one plays?

    I guess I am not understanding how buying blood points is pay to win? I could play for hours to level up a character to unlock a teachable and probably rank up in the process, or I could buy blood points to do the same thing (and not rank up, so I would still be rank 20).

    I don't see how people buying blood points would effect q times since it doesn't affect rank?

    pay 2 win by buying bloodpoints. you think having a p3 killer at rank 20 would be fair and not P2W

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    Not a fan of paying to have the best load out sorry.

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    @Attackfrog said:
    RWoodrow said:


    Attackfrog said:

    Can anyone give an example of how it would hurt?

    Missed $$ for this developer.

    Alot of people would leave the game because it would be pay2win. The number of people who would leave the game for this reason alone would be quite large I imagine. I'm sure EA could ballpark a number. Que times would skyrocket overnight.

    Alot of people would leave the game because part of the draw of this game for them is the grind. This drives the wait time up even further.

    People, tired of waiting hours for a game, would find another game to play.

    This game dies completely.

    At first, admittedly, they might turn a tiny profit off selling bps but they would lose more off future chapters and cosmetic item sells because who would buy DLC for a game no one plays?

    I guess I am not understanding how buying blood points is pay to win? I could play for hours to level up a character to unlock a teachable and probably rank up in the process, or I could buy blood points to do the same thing (and not rank up, so I would still be rank 20).

    I don't see how people buying blood points would effect q times since it doesn't affect rank?

    pay 2 win by buying bloodpoints. you think having a p3 killer at rank 20 would be fair and not P2W

    Again, having a p3 killer at rank 20 is something everyone can have when the seasons reset. Some people all ready have it so the only thing money is buying is time.

    There isn't anything anybody can get from buying blood points that they couldn't get from farming (similar to a level boost in other games).

    Unless I am missing something? 
  • RWoodrow
    RWoodrow Member Posts: 270
    edited October 2018
    RWoodrow said:

    Can anyone give an example of how it would hurt?

    Missed $$ for this developer.

    Alot of people would leave the game because it would be pay2win. The number of people who would leave the game for this reason alone would be quite large I imagine. I'm sure EA could ballpark a number. Que times would skyrocket overnight.

    Alot of people would leave the game because part of the draw of this game for them is the grind. This drives the wait time up even further.

    People, tired of waiting hours for a game, would find another game to play.

    This game dies completely.

    At first, admittedly, they might turn a tiny profit off selling bps but they would lose more off future chapters and cosmetic item sells because who would buy DLC for a game no one plays?
    I guess I am not understanding how buying blood points is pay to win? I could play for hours to level up a character to unlock a teachable and probably rank up in the process, or I could buy blood points to do the same thing (and not rank up, so I would still be rank 20).

    I don't see how people buying blood points would effect q times since it doesn't affect rank?
    Anytime you can pay money to gain any kind of advantage over another player in an online game it is pay to win. Yes, you can achieve the samething currently through farming. Being able to farm it, however, does not change the pay to win mechanic at all. It only adds witch hunting and bullying to the list of reasons not to introduce paying for bloodpoints.

    Regardless of whether you agree with the opinion of paying for bloodpoints is pay to win or not, many people feel it would be. People are very passionate about anything that is, to them, pay to win (as they should be).

    This passion would lead them to find other games as a form of protest against it being pay to win.

    Less people in the game means longer que times. 

    Negative word of mouth means no one replacing those who left the game.
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  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Would you like to pay 0.25¢ for every minute you wait in a lobby as well? 
  • Luckystrike2778
    Luckystrike2778 Member Posts: 63

    Enough with these damn topics. Is it the same lame person on alt accounts doing this BS? If you want pay to win because you feel entitled to being lazy when it comes to earning something then go somewhere else. FFS! Money may solve a lot of ######### but this is just getting rediculous. You pay to winners are part of the problem. Earn it or go elsewhere. Thanks for making me be an adult and an a$$._.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    Rellewd said:

    truely at this time and for this only reason, I really want SPIKED BOOTS AND MOONSHINE FOREVER, I TEND TO STAY WITH MOONSHINE but SPIKED BOOTS are much more rare and I never skip the webs presents even when i focus on them addons I can stack them but now I am hurting as sometimes I will when low on them and I notice Moonshine comes more frequent than them Boots so SEND HELP.

    You can already buy Bloodpoints. Buy the Leatherface Chapter and the Spark of Madness Chapter. Leather has BBQ and Chili which can DOUBLE the bloodpoints earned in game. The Doctor is the best killer for grinding bloodpoints to a ridiculous margin of profit.

    Combine the two with Distressing and Thrill of the Hunt for an absurd amount of BP. Add in offerings and witness BP gains that rival daily rituals.

    If you really want to buy BP, just take my advice.
  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Rellewd said:
    truely at this time and for this only reason, I really want SPIKED BOOTS AND MOONSHINE FOREVER, I TEND TO STAY WITH MOONSHINE but SPIKED BOOTS are much more rare and I never skip the webs presents even when i focus on them addons I can stack them but now I am hurting as sometimes I will when low on them and I notice Moonshine comes more frequent than them Boots so SEND HELP.

    How many posts will it take until you get the hint!?
    Stop with this nonsense EA I've told you time and time again!

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  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    @ZombieGenesis said:

    @TheDarkLycan said:
    pay 2 win by buying bloodpoints. you think having a p3 killer at rank 20 would be fair and not P2W

    Pay to win would be if I could buy better perks than people who get them just by grinding. Which, by the way, this game already does.

    How many brain cells do you have?

    Keep buying bloodpoints to unlock and get better perks, derp.

    Do you not understand the definition of p2win????

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  • KillJiggy
    KillJiggy Member Posts: 165

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Buying bloodpoints would make it akin to a pay-to-win game. If DBD ever goes down that route I'll probably throw in the towel.

    I dont think yall understand the difference between pay to win and pay to lessen the grind

  • Rellewd
    Rellewd Member Posts: 195

    Response to many here, I know I know... I buy all killers to get their addons for my proud legacy hillbilly. I did mention I was just saying.. Even though I would pay for BP's I know it will and better never happen, ummmm just saying for the moment it'd be nice but now am drinking again and have enough black wards, moonshine and spiked boots to last me towards the end of my drunk,....ummm i wasnt saying or asking for pay for BP's but saying, just saying it'd be nice for moments like those when I want them.... can i lock threads??? ill check it a week or so.

  • Darktronik
    Darktronik Member Posts: 94

    Don't give them ideas...

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @KillJiggy said:

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Buying bloodpoints would make it akin to a pay-to-win game. If DBD ever goes down that route I'll probably throw in the towel.

    I dont think yall understand the difference between pay to win and pay to lessen the grind

    This "grind" is directly tied to perks for a multiplayer game so it give you a possible advantage over those who can't pay. If this was a single player game then it would just be a greedy tactic but since its a multiplayer game it would become P2W.

    I don't think you understand what P2W truly means.

  • SanKa_Games
    SanKa_Games Member Posts: 201

    @Rellewd said:
    truely at this time and for this only reason, I really want SPIKED BOOTS AND MOONSHINE FOREVER, I TEND TO STAY WITH MOONSHINE but SPIKED BOOTS are much more rare and I never skip the webs presents even when i focus on them addons I can stack them but now I am hurting as sometimes I will when low on them and I notice Moonshine comes more frequent than them Boots so SEND HELP.

    Having a lot of bloodpoints won't help you with this though. I spent millions and millions of bloodpoints to get a few addons I need and a TON of addons I don't need, and they have same rarity. That's just ridiculous.

  • KillJiggy
    KillJiggy Member Posts: 165

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @KillJiggy said:

    @BearTrapSnap said:
    Buying bloodpoints would make it akin to a pay-to-win game. If DBD ever goes down that route I'll probably throw in the towel.

    I dont think yall understand the difference between pay to win and pay to lessen the grind

    This "grind" is directly tied to perks for a multiplayer game so it give you a possible advantage over those who can't pay. If this was a single player game then it would just be a greedy tactic but since its a multiplayer game it would become P2W.

    I don't think you understand what P2W truly means.

    Pay to win implies that someone who pays has an advantage over someone who doesn't. Which they don't. A person with enough time played has the advantage. Plus most perks don't take long at all to achieve, and you don't need meta build to play well, especially as survivor.

  • blue4zion
    blue4zion Member Posts: 2,773

    This game should never EVER give you the option to buy bloodpoints with money, it would become a pay to win.
    But I do like the idea of trading in addons and offerings for bloopoints, maybe.