Blight and the illusion of fun.
It's pretty clear from my last few posts\comments that i loathe Blight. But today's discussion is about people parroting streamers.
Blight on stream has to be one of the most boring killers to view, the matches are hardly close, every blight (but Scott) all seem to play the same way same perks, add-ons, super stretched res, low settings etc. Xeno is the perfect example. But I'm getting off point.
There seems to be this illusion of blight's fun level. Most people don't play vs him much, bu their own admissions and get the opinions from streamers or youtubers. The same reason many perks\killers\maps\etc get a lot of hate. Or the reason people will hear mmr mentioned and demand it, like servers years ago or dc bans. Neither of which help dbd btw.
But streamers who seem to play no one but blight, have blight forum pfps, and constantly talk about how fun and balanced he is cause the viewers to parrot the same points. I don't doubt some people want those things, or enjoy versing him but in my opinion blight is just as oppressive as deathslinger or spirit, with mobility and a higher skill cap. But i get horrendous map rng which leads to mu unusually high blight encounters leaving me with 0 pallets(5-10 tops) and monstrous deadzones. So it feels like he has no counters, especially the "sweaty, j-flick stretched res, 3 slowdowns tinkerer bbq bois" who down someone every 15 seconds and slug at 4 gens. Not to mention the truck sized hitbox on his power lunge. And lock of collision unlike actually balanced killers, Oni, Billy, Bubba.
Sorry for ranting but i hate Blight.
I know Blight pfps will insist he has counter-play but 50-50s and hoping for better rng isn't valid or healthy. I think he gets a free pass from well-deserved hate and criticisms because the fact not many people see him, and many streamers ride blight so hard.
I think he is one of the most oppressive killers in the game, his weapon and cosmetics suck, his music is overrated and his gameplay on the survivor side is dreadful... Thank you for reading this and I'm interested in seeing thoughtful discussion, please be sensible and try to be unbiased(yes you blight profile pics, and users i shall not name directly)
I look to forward to responses to change my views or to see if i changed other perspectives. Try to be open minded :)
A few edits. Nurse is still technically more opressive but far less common in matches for me.
Once more i will say 50\50 guessing and getter better map rng isn't valid counter-play. This is my opinion on the matter of Blight being boring to vs, and streamer influence of opinions. Many people will watch a streamer and parrot their views.
Sorry for the bad wording of this. Sleep deprivation made this more coherent in my mind than text.
TLDR i hate blight, i think his counter-play is non existent and the tiny bit that exists depends on map rng, and if he\she is exploiting or not.
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Bro what? What i just read didn't make any sense and all i got from this is " im too bad to see that blight has clear counterplay". Show me gameplay of your survivor please
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This is too long of a thread to be a bait.. Sadly this guy is for real
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"I think he is the most oppressive killer in the game."
Nurse will always be the most oppressive killer in the game. Blight can't ignore the game mechanics like the Nurse can.
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But Blight will become more common than nurse with the amount of streamers riding him? The average player is too intimidated by the stigma of nurse's difficulty to try her\learn her.
Blight is incredibly boring to face and more common for me.
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50\50 guessing and getting better map rng are not valid forms of counter-play
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Blight is still really rare to see.An actual good Blight ("streamer level Blight") is basically a unicorn to me
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Blight is, for the most part a pretty balanced and well-rounded killer.
For me, a better way of understanding how to play against him is to try playing as him. You'll quickly realise what ways you can play around his power and understand his limitations. Of course, this is with the implication that most blight players are playing him the way he's intended with no exploits like stretched res or J-flick.
I've seen a blight streamer or two with that disgusting nintendo ds looking resolution and doing all that for an advantage is just silly, frankly.
His power's hitbox does seem a bit misleading at times, I can understand that frustration. His swing actually doesn't hit anything other than survivors which allows people to swing around objects with it.
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Lucky you. I wouldn't say i see him as much as Freddy but Blight is more common than nurse or spirit in my region\games.
Many just use 3 slowdowns, bbw and alchemist ring. I have no issues with bbq btw, i main Oni and run bbq on everyone. But my point is that almost every blight plays the same, and im sick of the circle jerk streamers have given him
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50\50 guessing
A ton of survivor and killer interaction boils down to 50/50s if you think about it.
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I have roughly 11 hours as blight. I get Hawkins and Yama maps or Badham more than anything else. So i dread playing him play every killer regularly, besides twins.
I do not believe blight is fair.
At least as long as maps can have rng as bad as mine do. 50\50 guesses, are not counters.
Better map rng isn't a counter. I lose to plenty of mediocre teams or killers because map design\pallet density or rarity. Blight benefits heavily from deadzones and i get tonnes.
Lastly i hate the "spin him" argument. His hitbox is absurd and i can play a tile perfect but a jflick into bs hit gets me on the other side of a window already in motion. Spinning his power is pointless as its a 50\50 he guesses correctly
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So much of this made no sense. Are you talking about actual Blight or Exploit Blight?
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And that is unhealthy. But Blight benefits heavily from it.
I believe a good blight has no counters and is dreadfully boring to play against.
A good oni or billy feels fair and fun most games. But Blight just irritates me.
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Both but especially exploiters.
I loathe blight from a design standpoint and would rather play vs spirit. Sorry for my poor wording of this. Riding off 3ish hours of sleep so the post is lacking in some cohesion
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"A good blight has no counters" if you're not gonna show gameplay, the least you could do is show us your killer and survivor rank
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I agree, map RNG can screw over any side at any time I think. Killer or Survivor.
I don't think it's anything to do with Blight himself. Bad map RNG for survivors would mean virtually all killers have a much easier time. The only killers who don't really care about map RNG are spirits and nurses for obvious reasons
Blight can be oppressive, but I'd like to ask you for a bit more clarification on specifically why you find him not as fun to face. Is it his mobility? Is it the perks people run on him?
I just wanna gain a better understanding of your POV because Blight's a character I've went from thinking was nothing more than filler to a genuinely good, well designed character
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Thank you for not just blindly insulting me or calling me a troll. I could have certainly worded it better but i agree.
Blight just feels so oppressive and his mains never shut up about him. If he was more common i believe he'd be hated.
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Blight is very fun to play as and against. J-flicking blights are very annoying but will hopefully be patched soon. (yes, j-flicking is an exploit, stop crying your not supposed to instantly turn 180 degrees in a lethal rush).
You also said that deathslinger is oppressive? Which makes me think you just aren't a very good survivor. I would love to see your gameplay if a deathslinger keeps getting 4k's in all of your games.
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Well,i can definetely understand that versing a BBQ,Ruin + Undying,Tinkerer Blight with Alchemist Ring is super frustrating to go against.
But other than that he's pretty ok to go against.
Definetely better than something like Spirit,Twins or Freddy
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You lost me at rank meaning skill man.
All ya need to know is i have every perk on every character bar Ash and Twins.
Ash for a meme with friends and Twins because they are dreadfully boring.
I remember when shack had 2 windows and there were no entity blockers, exhaustion, nurse had 6 blinks and every map was huge
Sorry but rank doesn't mean anything these days. People at rank 1 use noed and self care... -Shiver-
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His mobility paired with a lunge that makes no sense, lack of cooldown, and zoning rivaling deathslinger.
Not to mention (nearly)every blight uses ruin and tinkerer which makes a lack of diverse gameplay.
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But what would be the alternative to 50/50s? I dont think god spot/ dead zone is any better.
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If you think that Blight is just as oppressive as Spirit or Deathslinger then I'm sorry but you need to get good. Blight has a lot of counter play like breaking LoS, getting behind objects, windows, Dead Hard, etc. The counter play isn't just going to be handed to you, you actually need to learn and adapt to it. The problem with many people on both sides is that they don't want to have to do that and they want everything to be a cakewalk.
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DeathSlinger is the definition of opressive in a 1v1 but bad in 4v1. He can zone and has 0 chase counters beyond predrop and hope he misses.
He isn't as opressive as blight since blight has mobility.
Oni and Billy feel much more fair, i just wish billy didn't get nerfed
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He insults his fans too if i believe its who you're mentioning. If not i shudder at the thought of another
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I prefer all 3. But too each their own.. i think if i got twins as much a blight I'd agree.
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More unsafe pallets\filler just for the sake of prolonging a chase if skilled.
Use the lesser tiles more. Like move z walls into the maps instead of purely along edges, and boom less reliance on the 3ish jungle gyms and more diversity of loops.
Right now I'd take anything but the auto haven vallies and forests i get.
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That makes sense, even if I think Blight is mostly fine - like I said his lunge is a bit misleading and hard to use perks like Dead Hard against sometimes.
The lack of cooldown, I actually disagree with because by default rush tokens regenerate in a couple of seconds but it's dependant on how many are used which I'm sure you're aware of. Even then, much like nurse - Blight is always forced into an injection animation after every rush regardless if he hits or not. That's balanced, if you ask me.
In terms of zoning, the fact you can use non-loop tiles against Blight's power (Like Junk clusters for example) means that he'll have to cancel his rush and chase normally until his tokens are back (Which, might net you enough time to make it to a better tile) means there is counterplay there.
When I face a Blight and I'm in the open, trying to get somewhere, I almost always think to myself: "When you hear him start rushing, find something to run around" and I'm not gonna say it's a 100% get out of jail free card but it's one of those things that's worth learning. You can't play against every killer the same, there's tactics and strats involved.
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Ah yes duck and get zoned much like slinger mains tell people to do.
Do gens faster to avoid tinkerer and ruin
Get better map RNG to avoid the constant deadzones.
So insightful. Blight is more opressive than slinger, since he has better mobility than billy and oni. :)
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I can definitely see why you'd think Blight is boring to play against. Very low cooldown on his power so you're free to use it whenever you want and you can't really use that cooldown to get anywhere safe as a survivor, if he breaks the pallet he's getting basically a free hit because maps have fun and interactive dead zones everywhere. And then on top of that Ruin-Undying-Tinkerer is ######### stupid on him and so are blighted crow+blighted rat, alchemist ring and compound 33. And on top of THAT you have the exploits which are hopefully getting fixed soon.
So Idk, you might change your mind about him when his exploits get fixed and you'll no longer need to play the "Is this guy gonna cheat" 50/50 anymore.
Learning to play as Blight might also help you when playing against him since you'll know what he can and can't do in most situations.
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Perhaps, but that doesn't make him more oppressive than Nurse, or even Spirit. And streamers like him, so what? Streamers tend to like higher-skillcap characters. Look at all the streamers that mained characters like Genji and Widowmaker when Overwatch first came out.
And that's just your opinion. I personally like Blight, but we all have our chosen hated killers. Hag is my Blight, I can't stand her. But that's just an opinion. Both are valid.
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Im not friend. But darn, now it means another of these... Creatures dwells on twitch
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Agreed friend, nice pfp by the way ;)
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I play on console as well as not sticking to the basic meta a majority of Blights use to keep things spicy. It sounds more like your leaning more towards high DPI PC Blights that can perform 1000x better than we can. To say he's basically Spirit level and as Oppressive as Nurse is absurd.
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"High skill cap"
I somewhat agree that base blight is skillful.
But exploit blight isn't.
Only Blight mains enjoy him and the viewers who are never matched with blight tend to parrot their favorite streamers.
You don't see any streamers but nurse mains or tourny squads win as easily as blights do.
He is opressive and currently unfair. Fun or not.
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Have to admit, that does sound pretty nice. Z wall does need a use other than a meme structure.
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Im saying he is unfair, and top tier. He can be opressive but not nurse levels
Look at the responses. People tell the same exact counter-play for blight as spirit and nurse.
"Hide, lose line of dight, guess correctly"
Blight makes skill of survivors irrelevant if he's good.
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Exactly, use Z walls, I Walls, and even solo L and T walls as los breakers, value for perks, and deadzone fillers that aren't loop tiles
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But you can loop a blight on a lot of structures? In fact you can force a Blight into situations where he can't use his power in some places. Then he's just angry man with cane
Nurse and Spirit can just ignore loops, Blight can use his power to get hits in loops but his power doesn't automatically render tiles useless
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Regular Blight does have counterplay. Junk tiles, rock tiles, car loops, houses, pretty much everything that isn't a maze tile, shack or main building. No matter how good a killer is with Lethal Rush, those loops are forced to be played as an m1 killer except in very rare circumstances.
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I agree that exploit Blight isn't very fair.
And I'm certainly not a Blight main, and I enjoy him. I'm a Wraith main, pretty damn far from Blight. I'll always find Nurse way more unfair than Blight, and killers like Spirit and Freddy way more infuriating to play against.
The main problem I have right now is your definitely kind of treating your opinion as fact. "Only Blight mains enjoy him." is not a fact, it's an opinion.
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But they aren't wrong though. Keeping something between you and him while correctly guessing which direction he'll take is the best counter. When he's not using his power, he's still an m1 killer, but going against a loop rusher takes alot of adaptability to avoid it. Unfair is a bit of a stretch imo.
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Is it really healthy to discard people's opinions because "I don't like it and they won't show me a video of them playing"
I mean, if you disagree then just say why and move on
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Again rank means nothing. I play far more killer but i understand the struggles of survivor.
Im a higher devotion than some streamers and have hit rank one dozens of times with or without perks and i never use items\add ons unless found.
Take the hostility elsewhere killer main big brain.
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Map rng and guessing isn't counter-play. That is the same as saying use iron will to vs spirit or wake up vs fredophile.
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I would love to see your survivor gameplay.
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And when maps are deadzones and the blight is decent, he will always zone and hit you.
His only counter is stealth, and chases with him will never be fun to me.
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Thanks, you're a wise forum dweller friend.
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His opinion should be ignored because there's so much evidence proving that he has clear counterplay but yeah let's just choose to ignore all that. Let's ignore that blight is a normal m1 killer at loops and also ignore that his power gets countered by rocks and debris.
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I REALLY hope that the J-flick gets patched so survivors will be happy to play against the real Blight, not the J-flicking one. Maybe once the j-flick gets patched your opinion will change.
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Idk if this is a troll post or not but it appears legit.
Blights counter play is tight loops and sometimes wide open spaces. It's incredibly hard for him to bounce hit people around multiple corners without dpi abuse. He's also not very hard to dodge, again as long as he doesn't have dpi abuse.
He is regarded as one of the most fair killers to play against for this reason.
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