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Blight and the illusion of fun.

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  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169

    You probably could've just said that in the first place if you ask me.

    If you wanted to just ignore their opinion anyway why bother responding to the thread in the first place?

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    The only part of Blight that involves guesswork is exploiters, and map RNG is literally everything about this game so there's no use complaining about that. No difference between Blight, Billy, Huntress, Doctor, Deathslinger, Pyramid Head, Plague, etc.

    I understand not enjoying a killer, but those reasons aren't... Understantable.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,211
    edited April 2021

    Okay, I am curious now. I am from Brazil, but I don't really watch Brazilian content creators so I have no idea who you are talking about. 

    I think I will do a little research later.

  • ClownIsUnderrated
    ClownIsUnderrated Member Posts: 1,031

    Now tell us how you really feel about Blight

  • MarcoPoloYolo
    MarcoPoloYolo Member Posts: 508

    The instant 50/50s were labeled as not "legitimate counterplay" is the instant this thread delegitimized itself. It's effectively admitting that you're crying about being bad. You basically just admitted evidence of couterplay as evidence that counterplay doesn't exist. The mechanics of DBD is all about 50/50s or a series of 50/50s. The only time this is not the case is when the gameplay has a power that always works in a scenario, or safe/god loops where the survivor can't be hit with the kit that a killer has. This immediately sounds like you want simply knowing how tiles work to be a 100% guaranteed win in a chase, which is the definition of killers having no counterplay to survivor. Do you complain when a killer does a red-light mindgame or Ghostface hides his? It's the same thing.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,211

    Yeah, it would fall under naming and shaming. But don't worry, I think I can find him, whoever he is.

    Thanks for the help, my friend.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215
    edited April 2021

    My other post of the day is asking for less safe loops, and to add z walls, unsafe pallets and single Ls or Ts to mid mad loops instead of mindless ones or deadzones. Thanks for trying to misrepresent and smear me as a biased survivor who wants mindless safe loops though.

    Screw Blight :)


    Counter-play should be knowledge and skill not lucky guesses and map RNG. There's a reason this game's comp scene is laughable

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    My other post is asking to add unsafe loops as los breakers and filler to mid map deadzones like Z walls, single Ls or Ts. Non safe pallets.

    And less long walls and pallet gyms.


    So no. I want more debris, filler and small loops with less safe loops.


    Im sorry im not biased to killer or survivor unlike yourself.


    Counter-play should be knowele5and skill. Not luck, rng and other crap as it makes the players feel like they have no skill or ways they could play better.


    "Oh damn. 3 pallets and nothing but trees, should've played better"

    " Oh i guessed wrong but would've been hit either way...darn..."

  • deadbyhitbox
    deadbyhitbox Member Posts: 1,117
    edited April 2021

    Honestly, when they aren't exploiting, I find Blight to be one of the most interactive and fun killers to go against. He has counter play, is strong if used properly, and is interactive for both sides in a chase. He checks all the boxes of a well designed killer for me.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,612

    No one controls map rng, there are maps which are suffering to play as blight and deadzones on maps where its suffering to play against blight, don't hate the player hate the system

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Dude shut up you pretentious... ugh.. your pfp makes your arguments irrelevant and i probably have more hours than most on this cursed game.


    I can dislike an overrated and opressive killer without being insulted.


    You CANNOT beat a good blight as solos. I am simply pointing out his lack of counter-play and that i find him boring, not unbeatable, but boring and opressive, especially bad with my horrendous map RNG.

    You're one of my least favorite forum members and far too biased to be reasoned with. If you're willing to be civil comment on my posts and actually try to sway me, instead of being so arrogant. Until you grow ip, i ask that you do not comment on any of my stuff as anything you say is meaningless to me.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Wasn't expecting you of all people to be rational as i see you defend blight a lot. Thank you :D

    Map RNG certainly helps my hatred fuel for Blight. But i hate him and everything about him to the core, i just don't like him and think streamers beating him off and lack of encounters with him is why most don't dislike him.



    Either way I'm surprised by your comment And thank you for the civility friend. Blight just isn't for me. Hearing the blight debates and fanboys just irritated me. I don't think I'll every enjoy him. But i appreciate your comment.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,612
    edited April 2021

    Personally I just think the map rng needs to be fixed so that maps play more fluently while still being balanced for both sides instead of swinging to one side of a pendulum or another. Example of ridiculous map rng, Fractured cowshed with all 5 path pallets, and a rancid abattoir or father cambels chappel where shack window points directly at a long wall window. So personally I think the system just needs to be fixed to make it so mass deadzones don't happen but not to the point where each map plays like 2016 dbd or the game.


    Map rng facilitates a lot of issues between players so having a blight on a map with less deadzones would probably make people enjoy playing against him more


    Also I mostly just defend the J-flick part about blight because I understand it from the perspective of both sides not just one or another and know its endorsement would just lead to a balanced addition to the depth of a character I like.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    And i suggest not acting so arrogant and pretentious as to insult my skill level and insinuate that im some "bad noob" for not liking the most overrated and obnoxious killer (in my opinion) you came in hostile and biased and yes I've enough of your comments and attitude to make a fair assumption i dont want to interact with you unless you get off your high horse.


    Now please leave me alone :)

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Fair enough. I don't enjoy play as him or viewing him and i frequently go against him. More than spirit tbh.


    I just do not like him. Nr do i find him fun to go against. That is that

  • gilgamer
    gilgamer Member Posts: 2,209

    wow I've never seen such a hate boner for my little pinball, I'm gonna be real I just don't see eye to eye with you on almost any of your points

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    And he will be my least favorite for a long time to come.


    Its mostly the rng of maps and his "toxic" players that kill him for me

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    I think more unsafe loops, z walls, and singular Ls or Ts toward the center. Quantity over quality to reward skill and reduce safe loops and deadzones.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,612

    Oh and follow up on speaking about the devil of map rng you wouldn't guess what tile set I got on my next match after calling map rng out

    thats right the long wall window directly into shack window on father cambells church

    of course since im op op blight I crushed the survivor team and got a 4k (they didn't actually play very well and make use of literally any tile other than vaulting the main building window once or twice)

    and the exit gates were back to back 32 meters apart and I could watch both at the same time. So the pendulum was both ways at the same time on that map. Overall map rng is the great divider before most other factors

  • Dustin
    Dustin Member Posts: 2,306
  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583


    The validity of a person's statements is not defined by a person's profile picture.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    A Blight main will be more biased on the topic of blight being fun.


    Much like I'm biased to Oni, Huntress and Yui. But i admit my favoring of characters and bias. Unlike many "rank 1 both sides" gamers in the forum

  • EvanSnowWolf
    EvanSnowWolf Member Posts: 1,583
    edited April 2021


    Garbage argument. By that logic I must love Soul Guard. I run it on zero characters.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Nope?


    BHVR trolled me. Just got a rank 1 blight with 3 slowdown perks who slugged at 4 gens and camped someone to second.


    He was rank 1

    My teammates were 7, 13, 8.


    Fun

  • ukenicky
    ukenicky Member Posts: 1,352

    All I will say about the topic of Blight is that there's a lot of nasty Blight mains who have a sort of superiority complex and like to shame other Blight players who don't utilize the j flick exploit/tech whatever you wanna call it.

    I can't condone that kind of behavior towards your own people like goodness, grow up and learn how to be nice to your fellow killer players??

    Ahem, but yes to echo OP's point I'm not sure I really find Blight entertaining to watch. He's actually kind of fun to go against though (Depending on the map). I rank him up there with Billy in terms of funnest killers to play against bcuz when he zooms at you I jump every and that's fun in this game, actually being scared LOL

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    I agree so much



    And fair enough. If that's a reason you enjoy him, more power to you.

  • ukenicky
    ukenicky Member Posts: 1,352

    I mean he's okay, ultra sweaty Blights can be an absolute unfun nightmare to go against though. Tinkerer is nasty on killers with high mobility like him x.x but this can be said about many killers with similar power like Spirit and Freddy.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Just had one slug at 4 gens and proxy


    Rank 1.

    My team 13, 8, 7

  • MrDardon
    MrDardon Member Posts: 4,033

    If I were a mod, I'd close this right now. The amount of salt and insults in here is quite childish.

  • OniWantsYourMacaroni
    OniWantsYourMacaroni Member Posts: 5,944

    Yeah,i've seen that too.

    Like why even bother doing map reworks if crap like this STILL happens.

  • CLAUDETTEINABUSH
    CLAUDETTEINABUSH Member Posts: 2,210

    Blight in my opinion was the most balanced released killer in dbd history. I get your frustrations over people parroting over streamers, but that's besides the point isn't it?

    I picked up blight for the first time this week and his power is actually incredibly hard to use. I managed to win 2/3 games yesterday if I remember correctly but made a lot of mistakes. I don't use j-flick, and it's getting fixed so nobody will use it anytime soon. The fact that some streamers use stretched res doesn't have to do with playing blight, it has to do with the streamer. He has a good amount of counterplay since there are some loops that his power is generally useless and he's a 115% ms killer, for example the truck loops or the one pallet loops with one side bigger than the other (dunno how to rephrase it, if you want an example I'll send a pic). He takes a lot of skill to play and even more to master. I don't find him oppressive at all even as a survivor, since the blight might over-rush and lose a lot of distance. But it could be just me you know, I love going against nurses so I'm generally a weird cookie.

    But saying blight is the most oppressive killer with no counterplay is incredibly incorrect imo. I understand if you don't like him, but he is counterable, unlike spirit and deathslinger that u mentioned before.

    Btw his thematic and visuals are also neat, his skins are incredible and his tr music really boosts his character imo. I find blight as a really cool character design, not to mention the lore he brings.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089
    edited April 2021

    What's there not to like about him. the same thing as nurse the. Bugs mostly sliding off objects

    You have speed, fair control over his power a power that can down and break pallets ect he's 115 so he can be played as a m1 killer on bad maps like lyeres and has a fair counter play similar to oni sharp turns but you have to be quick with multiple reactions he has a 3s recharge per a token used with a 3s stun

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    Agreed the exploit isint very skillfully that makes him more of monkey man with stick than someone who has to prepare and option select

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    Ngl you sound boastful. never hear of you so benefit of the doubt. But I've yet to hear someone as boastful or arrogant as you

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    Clearly you have some sort of ego going on the fact that you took offence to that "sugar coated" comment proves that.

    I was using boastful to cover arrogant considering the fact I've never heard of you until now .

    Ps. you clearly do care about my opinion because you would of ignored me if you truely didn't care.

  • JimbusCrimbus
    JimbusCrimbus Member Posts: 1,110

    I rarely see Blight play the way you subscribed. Good save saying "Except Scott" though. I'm sure he cares about your lips on his backside.

  • Beefmur
    Beefmur Member Posts: 261

    so even if blight was op hypothetically. You would rather go against nurse than blight? Thats some wild ######### man

  • Verconissp
    Verconissp Member Posts: 1,588

    You assuming i play on Stretch? Meta Perks? and Low settings?

    Bish i play on Ultra with his speed addons / ring / compound addons with Shadowborn, bbq pop & Nurses,

    I hate Stretch Res and i will NEVER support it, I'd rather support j-flicking and survivors abusing every single Op perk in one match than that,

  • KayTwoAyy
    KayTwoAyy Member Posts: 1,699

    50/50 is an example of good counterplay

    Hard counters are an example of bad counterplay


    Blight is a well-balanced killer (even with his exploit).

    The players that make you hate Blight have worked their ass off to become the oppressive force you hate today. When Blight was added to the game, he was received to mix reviews--as the community seemed split about his potential. It was obvious how strong he was with ruin/undying/tinkerer, but it took 4 months of dedicated practice and experimentation for Blight to become a respected killer in his own right.

    Today, you are struggling to outplay Blights who have had 7 months to hone his skill. And you should be, because you don't have 7 months of experience facing really talented Blights. You don't see Blight every match, and you likely don't see a good Blight every time you face him.


    Blight's counterplay lies in the 50/50

    Many people think that 50/50s are just guessing games, but the reality is that most 50/50s in DBD are about misdirection and anticipation. 50/50s are the most balanced moments in DBD because both the killer and the survivor are on an even playing field. This means that the player who makes the best move will come out on top.

    Blight's rush ability is strong, and gives him great pressure, but his speed requires him to make split second decisions. The more you play against Blight, the more predictable you will find his playstyle. At the highest levels of play, Blight and Nurse have similar counterplay.

    In short: Fake one direction, then double back as the killer commits to the direction you initially set out in.

    I find that a lot of pallet loops are really safe against Blight because they do not offer him many surfaces to bounce off of if he misses his first rush, and I can bait the Blight into committing to the wrong direction. Do not camp pallets against Blight, and take note of how many times Blight can bounce off a wall--knowing when he is on his last rush may allow you to greed pallets when you know you can evade the lounge.

    Tl:DR

    Blight has counterplay. Keep your head on your shoulders, keep working hard, and eventually you'll learn how to outplay him. The great Blight mains out there worked hard to be oppressive, so don't think you can outplay them without going through the same adversity.

  • Silver9
    Silver9 Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2021

    Okay off topic question. I've played against blight once so I can't add any valid points to this post but i wanted to ask when did deathslinger join the ranks of oppressive killers? I keep seeing it come up but I've never heard that before today.

  • KayTwoAyy
    KayTwoAyy Member Posts: 1,699

    @Dweet_Unfairfield here is a clip demonstrating some Blight counterplay (zero guesswork involved).

    This wasn't the best Blight, but he didn't make an huge mistakes in this chase.

    For starters, I positioned my body behind the rock in such a way that I could move left or right, depending on which way Blight committed to. Blight decided to end his rush (a good call), so I ran off pallet to begin a full loop around bus. Unfortunately, he thought window would be middle of bus, which led to an awkward start of chase.

    I decided to leave bus, which was pretty risky. A better Blight may have tried to punish me in the open space--I wouldn't have minded taking a hit.

    He played the jungle gym the same exact way I see every red rank Blight play it, so I had the experience to know I could vault the window 3 times without throwing the pallet.


  • FondaDix
    FondaDix Member Posts: 173

    I guess my counter to Blight being op is that if you think Blight is op, then Legion is very op as they can leap windows and pallets and it's shut down by loops that Blight has issues with.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    "I picked up nurse this week, she's hard to use" still unbalanced even if it takes skill. I've beaten plenty of "bad spirit" and lose to "bad" teams because i played bad or map rng.


    Blight is not balanced and is in my opinion the least fun killer to vs by a longshot

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    The amount of sweaty exploiters that play him, how obnoxious his mains on the forums are, and i hate his design as a personal thing, he just annoys me.


    I find him incredibly boring to go against and play as. After 300 hours as huntress i felt like i was still learning as her. Same with Oni.

    But after nearly 20 with blight i feel like i just steamroll with no effort unless i get a bad indoor map. But those hurt all killers and survivors. Thanks for not insulting me though. I appreciate open minded people :)

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Sorry if i came across as snarky. Just tired of massive brained blight mains insulting me every time i dare dislike 1 of the 20+ killers even though I've complained twice about him total on here.


    Not saying you're one of those.

    I just despite everything about this Blight on my fun over the last 5 years.

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Mastering a killer is learning their limits and every thing they can and can't do. And destroying with what they offer.


    Not just monke man with stick who removes any Survivor skill input.


    Glad you agree :)

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    Please stop acting so big brain. Its very arrogant and just kinda proves the points made about forum killer mains being so.. egotistical.



    I thought we moved past this.

    You're not as intelligent as you think. And not life's main character.


    I agree he could have not insulted you. But cmon. This looks so sad when you act superior to others. I hate Blight 50x more now

  • Dweet_Unfairfield
    Dweet_Unfairfield Member Posts: 215

    They can't down you with their power, are barely faster than survs, run more diverse perk builds and have no op add ons


    I appreciate the attempt mah dude. Maybe Legion is just too strong to actually kill Survivors and simply let people escape.