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I don't get why survivors complain about NOED so much

Wilson_PH
Wilson_PH Member Posts: 7
in Feedback and Suggestions

If killers have to deal with not being able to slug due to UB, not being able to swing immediately at injured survivors due to DH, not being able to go after recently unhooked survivors thanks to BT+DS, survivors can deal with cleansing bones to prevent NOED.

People have been asking for a second objective for survivors to make the game more fun but it's been there the entire time.

Comments

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,229
    edited April 2021

    I often find the problem isn't NOED itself, it's the playstyle people with NOED use or what NOED allows them to get away with, let's say.

    They usually try to camp and tunnel someone out of the game really quickly, not caring about the gens and then they use noed to snowball at the end. I say usually because not everyone who uses NOED does this, it's just a pattern I've noticed after facing noed many many many times over my time playing the game.

  • Firellius
    Firellius Member Posts: 4,548
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/245521/i-dont-get-why-survivors-complain-about-noed-so-much

    Doing totems isn't the counter to NOED.

    Firstly: Because if there's any totem left standing, that totem will become NOED. Cleansing 4/5 is the functional equivalent of cleansing 0/5 when it comes to NOED. Possibly, it could even be worse, since the last totem is more likely to be one that's difficult to cleanse due to being difficult to find or being too exposed.

    Secondly: Because if you ARE doing totems and there is no NOED, the perk becomes the de facto absolute best slowdown perk in the game, since it sucks up at least 60 seconds of survivor activity -without being equipped-.

    NOED has no counterplay. That's why it's a problem. UB, DS and BT can all be avoided by not camping, not tunnelling (barring BT bodyblocks which should be removed), but NOED has no possible counterplay. Either you risk wasting enormous amounts of time for no reason, or you get instadowned by it. Even if you do manage to cleanse 5/5 and the killer has NOED, you still spent a bunch of time not on gens, rescues or healing. At that point, it might as well have been Thanatophobia.

  • swager21
    swager21 Member Posts: 1,019

    Doing totems isn’t so easy. Doing 4 out of 5 totems is the same as doing 0 totems. Try doing all of the totems without the help of special perks in solo queue. If everyone wasted time looking for totems that are sometimes hidden in god locations noed would be a better slowdown perk than pgtw. Seriously, I’ve tried looking for the totems (I had small game too) and i was only able to find 4 totems and that time I wasted prevented me from even making it to the end game. Also, if you somehow do all of the totems there’s a chance that the killer didn’t even have noed which means you wasted over 2 minutes for nothing

  • Spill
    Spill Member Posts: 235

    To me its just an ABSURD perk. Especially since its FREE to any killer. I also feel like newcomers probably leave the game out of frustration. BHVR is without a doubt LOSING customers because of it. I mean how can you learn a game, understand looping, evading, saving and doing gens but then you get slapped with noed?

    Like you're finally getting the hang of surviving only to be utterly destroyed because you only found and cleansed 1,2,3,4 totems. Why would someone play that game?

    Every time I think about this perk I thank god I had friends introduce me to the game and help me counter it. I would have never played this game as long as I have without them.


    Noed doesn't need a nerf or rework. It needs to be completely removed. It's by far the most unhealthy perk in the game.

    It requires time finding all 5 totems

    It requires time cleansing all 5 totems

    It gives the player insta-downs on everyone (at the end of the game when the players are already weak)

    It gives the killer a speed boost

    That's too much bullshit honestly. Imagine if survivors had a 1 perk that required all that?