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Killers forcing survivors to work for them.

The_Crusader
The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
in Feedback and Suggestions

So near the end of the game there's two people left. The killer slugs one and goes looking for the other. That's fine, I have no problem with that.

However recently I've noticed a trend where the killer gets the survivor to work for them. So the killer slugs a survivor....then just stands behind them. You can't go in for the heal because you know it's a trap and the killer will down you before you could possibly heal this survivor up. So the survivor having nothing to do crawls towards you ratting out your location. The killer KNOWS this will happen and it's becoming quite common.

If you ask me this should count as "working with the killer". I mean I get it the downed survivor can't do anything else - and that seems to be the problem. It's just that there's something really dirty about a fellow survivor giving away your location. If a killer tries doing that with me I tend to lead them in the opposite direction just because I'd rather someone get hatch than have a total 4k wipeout.

Is this reportable? or is this part of the game?

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  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,931

    @The_Crusader said:

    Is this reportable? or is this part of the game?

    It's part of the game. Slugging the second to last survivor is a basic strategy to avoid a hatch stand off situation. If you know the killer is camping the slugged survivor then you should be looking for the hatch so you can take it when the survivor bleeds out. But if the survivor crawls toward you while bleeding out then it isn't reportable.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Dreamnomad said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    Is this reportable? or is this part of the game?

    It's part of the game. Slugging the second to last survivor is a basic strategy to avoid a hatch stand off situation. If you know the killer is camping the slugged survivor then you should be looking for the hatch so you can take it when the survivor bleeds out. But if the survivor crawls toward you while bleeding out then it isn't reportable.

    Yeah I get that slugging to avoid a hatch stand off is a tactic, I'm fine with that.

    I'm talking about when a survivor purposefully crawls towards you to rat out your location. They can take forever to bleed out. That's the problem. They can crawl from one end of the map to the other, so you have no chance of getting the hatch because the killer follows them knowing they're going towards you.

    Seems a bit toxic and against the team spirit if they work with the killer to show him your location. There's little you can do either.

    I mean if I see the killer walking around looking for me that's fine and I'd try to rescue the survivor if hes not being followed but I'm talking about situations where the killer just slowly follows the crawling survivor as he crawls from one side of the map to the other to show the killer your location. You're only caught then because your teammate purposefully gave away your location.
  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @The_Crusader said:
    So near the end of the game there's two people left. The killer slugs one and goes looking for the other. That's fine, I have no problem with that.

    However recently I've noticed a trend where the killer gets the survivor to work for them. So the killer slugs a survivor....then just stands behind them. You can't go in for the heal because you know it's a trap and the killer will down you before you could possibly heal this survivor up. So the survivor having nothing to do crawls towards you ratting out your location. The killer KNOWS this will happen and it's becoming quite common.

    If you ask me this should count as "working with the killer". I mean I get it the downed survivor can't do anything else - and that seems to be the problem. It's just that there's something really dirty about a fellow survivor giving away your location. If a killer tries doing that with me I tend to lead them in the opposite direction just because I'd rather someone get hatch than have a total 4k wipeout.

    Is this reportable? or is this part of the game?

    Thats not reportable, thats a strategy from the killer and even the survivor crawling towards you is not doing any bannable offense.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I simply crawl away and make the killer follow me to an area that's super far away from the other person and possibly the hatch. They either eventually come hook me, I bleed out or they finally give up and actually look for the other person.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,931

    @The_Crusader said:

    I'm talking about when a survivor purposefully crawls towards you to rat out your location. They can take forever to bleed out. That's the problem. They can crawl from one end of the map to the other, so you have no chance of getting the hatch because the killer follows them knowing they're going towards you.

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    Slugged survivors move incredibly slow. It's not hard to be somewhere the slugged survivor isn't. I just don't see this as a problem.

  • Whispers23
    Whispers23 Member Posts: 111

    I never lead him to other players. Also you can't save everyone. If you can't heal then leave.

  • Nos37
    Nos37 Member Posts: 4,142
    edited October 2018

    I don't find it reportable because a healthy/injured Survivor can walk and run faster than a dying Survivor can crawl.

    Stop wetting your pants in a locker and survive.

    I tried asking for a way for survivors to bleed out on their own faster, but it was shut down by killers who feel entitled to their 4 minutes of slug time.

  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @The_Crusader said:
    So near the end of the game there's two people left. The killer slugs one and goes looking for the other. That's fine, I have no problem with that.

    However recently I've noticed a trend where the killer gets the survivor to work for them. So the killer slugs a survivor....then just stands behind them. You can't go in for the heal because you know it's a trap and the killer will down you before you could possibly heal this survivor up. So the survivor having nothing to do crawls towards you ratting out your location. The killer KNOWS this will happen and it's becoming quite common.

    If you ask me this should count as "working with the killer". I mean I get it the downed survivor can't do anything else - and that seems to be the problem. It's just that there's something really dirty about a fellow survivor giving away your location. If a killer tries doing that with me I tend to lead them in the opposite direction just because I'd rather someone get hatch than have a total 4k wipeout.

    Is this reportable? or is this part of the game?

    a solution would be to go around the map find the hatch and then dont stay there. go back when you know its safe just keep moving around the map

  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    all "theoretical" of course i never do this unless the other survivor is one that either sandbagged me, farmed me, or any other from of rudeness. when this happens i usually go to recently played players find the killer and message him saying if he picks me up and drops me i will lead him to the other survivor and allow him to still kill me after i teabag the survivor on the hook all "theoretical" of course not real or banable

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372
    1. Killer is not "forcing" them to do anything. If he slugs the Survivor, go hatch hunting and wait for them to bleed out.
      1. It is a very common strategy to slug the second last person to avoid a hatch escape. If the second Survivor chooses to show the last Survivors location, that is up to that Survivor.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited October 2018
    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    So near the end of the game there's two people left. The killer slugs one and goes looking for the other. That's fine, I have no problem with that.

    However recently I've noticed a trend where the killer gets the survivor to work for them. So the killer slugs a survivor....then just stands behind them. You can't go in for the heal because you know it's a trap and the killer will down you before you could possibly heal this survivor up. So the survivor having nothing to do crawls towards you ratting out your location. The killer KNOWS this will happen and it's becoming quite common.

    If you ask me this should count as "working with the killer". I mean I get it the downed survivor can't do anything else - and that seems to be the problem. It's just that there's something really dirty about a fellow survivor giving away your location. If a killer tries doing that with me I tend to lead them in the opposite direction just because I'd rather someone get hatch than have a total 4k wipeout.

    Is this reportable? or is this part of the game?

    a solution would be to go around the map find the hatch and then dont stay there. go back when you know its safe just keep moving around the map

    I go far away from the survivor, to buy me time but it can be awkward to avoid them as they close in if their isn't much cover around. It's even harder when it's Wraith too as he's the one who normally does this because you can't tell which way he's looking.

    So killers seem to think it's fair. What do survivors think? I just feel there's something incredibly toxic about a survivor working with the killer to get a kill. You're supposed to be a team. It's just one more reason to push people to play SWF, at least they help each other out....one normally disconnects so the other can get the hatch. Which is broken in a completely different way.
  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    thats just a BM from your survivor buddy, nothing you could report the killer for.
    i mean, he is just watching the guy bleed out, but why is he crawling to you? thats the question.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Mister_xD said:

    thats just a BM from your survivor buddy, nothing you could report the killer for.
    i mean, he is just watching the guy bleed out, but why is he crawling to you? thats the question.

    Because what else is he going to do? He can't really do anything. So he comes for healing.

    But again the killer is right behind him the whole time. So you aren't gonna get him up. You'll take a hit before you get to him, maybe heal him IF he's at 85%, take a second hit and go down then he'll turn around and KO the other guy.

    Basically you're giving the killer a free 4k.

    I don't know why some survivors get salty over it. I can't work miracles. Like I said if someones been a good teammate and the killer tries doing that with me I crawl away from the survivor. I'd feel better for our team getting a 3k+hatch than having a 4k.

    It's some straight up BS. There's nothing the survivor can do except wait an eternity to bleed out. There's nothing the other survivor can do except stick his head out and give the killer a 4k. It just seems really toxic to me having the killer find you because another survivor led him to you.

    That's why the whole endgame needs to change.