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Wraith buff should be reverted
The wraith buff was a mistake and should be reverted ASAP. Yes he was too weak before but now he is borderline op and on certain maps he has almost no counterplay. Undo his recent buff and buff and give him a different buff to work with.
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Is this on all maps?
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And then Survivors will claim THAT buff is OP and to undo it and try something else.
And then they will claim THAT buff is op and...
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Survivors will never stop.
Freddy op, Nurse op, Oni so angry, Hag annoying, Billy annoying and now poor Wraith lol
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No. Some maps have enough vaults and palettes that you can actually play around the wraith somewhat but a lot of maps (some examples are: red forest, crotus penn, auto haven, and ormund) have way to many dead zones that wraith is incredibly oppressive. On those same maps you can play against a killers like deathslinger, oni, huntress, and trapper and it won’t feel oppressive because they are not so stupidly fast like wraith is.
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Bruh the Wraith buff is something all of us have asked for, leave the poor bing bong boi alone, he's finally getting his time to shine.
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I have never seen anyone say oni, hag, or billy is op or needs nerfs. Freddy definitely deserved the nerf so don’t complain about him and nurse is just as problematic as wraith if not more because even if you are not in a dead zone you are still going down.
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Then what is your proposed change to Wraith to not make him like the garbage he was before?
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As I said give him a different buff. The speeds at which killers move should almost ever be touched at all and yet they mad wraith so ridiculously fast that you can almost never get away from him on any map outside of maps like the game, haddonfield, and lerys.
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...they literally gave him an add-on that was considered a must-run to his base-kit. Nothing much about him changed, he's just slightly more viable now.
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I’m not an expert at balance changes but I would revert the buff he got and make it so when he unlcoaks there is no sound at all so he can surprise survivors. Make him more of a stealth and surprise you killer instead of a killer that is gonna run around super fast and m1 you.
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You can still very easily hear wraith when he's nearby that should give you enough time to get away before he starts to uncloak as his uncloak speed is slower now.
Wraith is very reliant on getting surprise hits as he has nothing to aid him in chase and hit and run tactics are risky, because if survivors are able to heal up before he finds them again then he wasted time getting the first hit.
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No he is borderline op now. If the add on was considered must run then that means it was insanely good on him so making it base kit is not a good idea
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That would basically make him a worse Ghostface. No thanks.
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Wraith without Windstorm was really weak, and WITH Windstorm he was only a bit more viable, but still very worse than the average killer. Do you not know how to play against basic M1 killers?
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I dont think he does lol. Those kind of people likes to play with noob bubbas that only know how to use one charge.
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True true
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Freddy deserved nerf how? And i saw topic for this killers. Because survivors wants easy and baby killers, they hates balanced killers.
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I never thought I'd actually see a nerf wraith post wow impressive. The only thing is probably change is the seeing blood add on which makes him see survivor auras thats it everything else is fine.
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I do know how to play against m1 killers the problem is that wraith doesn’t play like and m1 killer anymore since his so retardly fast now. His speed needs to be reduced.
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Oni is stupid strong with his builds that make it where he never needs to use his power - just infinite tracking essentially. He needs to be changed to more force his use of Demon Dash/Strike instead of just his hax-level blood orb tracking. Anti-bleeding perks should make you not drop blood orbs as well.
Hag is stupid strong on several maps, she needs a change to stop her from spamming 'teleport' button constantly and being able to teleport back to back.
Billy was -eh? He had good map coverage would could be difficult to deal with; same as Nurse.
Nurse's problem is similar to Huntress and other 'aim-based' killers --- it is too easy to perform on PC, too difficult to aim properly on console; which makes crossplay a nightmare. Nurse, imo, should not be able to 360 mid-teleport to change directions with her second blink; she should have a slightly longer post-teleport window to blink a second time and pick a direction going forward in the same path. The 360-direction change makes her incredibly annoying to deal with.
Freddy was butchered the moment he lost his invisibiltiy due to all the crybabies complaining about him - his changes are still kind of meh but better than not being changed. He needs a reworked rework to bring him into a modified version of his older gameplay -- with his friggin' true invisibility brought back and not this laughable excuse of flickering.
Spirit - HAHAAHA. Nerf her inability to mindgame because of her difficulty to read directionally; and/or nerf Stridor so she has an actual counter. She is especially problematic with BBQ's aura reading - but that's another topic for nerfing.
Doctor - the "bug fix" to Calm Spirit no longer keep countering his aura reading really screwed Survivors over and made him ridiculously annoying and strong to go against.
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These killers are by far, the most annoying that I deal with whenever I play on the Survivor-side. All of the other killers - some far more than others - are either decent; or they have glaring flaws that need to be addressed and buffed up.
Wraith was one of those that needed a buff to his abilities.
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Ah yes, he's super-duper fast, he moves at a whopping 150% speed, which is the same speed as Sprint Burst, Lithe, BL, Adrenaline, and Smash Hit.
If you knew how to play against M1 killers you wouldn't complain about him, you clearly need to learn how to play against him.
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Yes those perks have that speed but I don’t run any of those perks since I don’t like those perks. You shouldnt have to run a perk to counter a killer you potentially come across. You should run perks to create a play style that you enjoy. Also I never complained about pre buff wraith as he was actually fun to go against and even when I died to him I wasn’t too upset because it was actually an enjoyable game. Unlike right now where I go against him every game and all he does it run at Mach 50 to get ahead of me, force me to turn around while he uncloaks, and then still get to hit me for free because of the stupid movement speed burst he gets. He needs to be changed.
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I agree that wraith needed a buff but this was absolutely the wrong one.
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Freddy does deserve some sort of rework, but if you think he deserved the nerf you are mistaken. His nerfs aren't even going to fix what is wrong with him either lol.
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'You should not need perks to counter a Killer' = 'I want every Killer to be base movement & loopable'.
So every Killer should be easy to counter, and perks should just be 'for fun', while Killers have to work for every kill. And let's not forget the people demanding 'Camping' be punishable. 'Slugging' as well. And 'Tunneling' needs to go, too...
So, basically, Killers should not be allowed to kill Survivors, is what I get from this place. They should be BP farms and punching bags before Survivors pop all 5 gens with their 4 meta perks and twerk out the gates.
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Freddy needs another rework. Not nerfs.
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Wraith is now fast I can agree with that but he is not borderline op. I think the reason you think like is that many people start to play Wraith nowadays and even good killer mains start to play him a lot. I saw many videos about Wraiths and etc... He is popular after his new buff. Before his buff he was not a popular one but now I saw Wraiths at my matches and even I start to play Wraith a lot. He is fast yes but there are many ways you can counter him. After his power he is just a M1 killer and you can use some loops and pallets againts him and stall his time. Use jungle-gyms and windows more and you will see that he had a hard time. After he is uncloaked he had a speed boost so a straight line or some pallets wont save you but a good jungle-gyms and windows can and you will steal his time.
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