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Undetectable after OoO nerf

Name_Unavailable
Name_Unavailable Member Posts: 520
edited August 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

A while ago Undetectable status effect was buffed so Object of Obsession user can't counter all stealthy killers so easily. But now after nerfing OoO shouldn't aura reading perks can reveal undetectable killers again?

I see no problem with that now. Most survivors aura reading perks are okiesh. But for example perk like Kindred can counter Insidious.

Post edited by Gay Myers (Luzi) on

Comments

  • kyogul
    kyogul Member Posts: 491

    Considering Whispers exists, I think Spine Chill and Premonition are fine.

  • Name_Unavailable
    Name_Unavailable Member Posts: 520

    Perk vs Addon, i see no problem with that. Plus no one use OoO now because the side effect can screw you more than help you.

    Undetectable means you still has 0 TR and hide killer's red light, Being able to see wraith breaking pallet cross the map with Alert isn't broken.

  • gilgamer
    gilgamer Member Posts: 2,209

    Id say no, the reason undetectable was buffed wasn't just because of old OoO too many killer perks and powers were countered by aura reading survivor perks also lets be honest was kind of counter intuitive for a status effect called undetectable to only remove your terror radius and red stain and still allow you to be detected by aura perks like OoO, dark sense, and alert.

  • Name_Unavailable
    Name_Unavailable Member Posts: 520

    Honestly perks like Dark Sense, Alert or new OoO isn't powerful perks. This buff will help but still they will not be too good or broken.

    Unlike old OoO it was unfair for stealthy killers like GF or Wraith. because you counter their whole power.

  • gilgamer
    gilgamer Member Posts: 2,209

    Alert or OoO may not be meta but they are still very strong perks if you know how to use them sure they lose a lot of effectiveness against stealth killers but that's a roll of the die you have to accept when you take these perks. Aura reading is very powerful which is why the perks that can do it are under strict conditions otherwise you get old OoO. Its not like other perks aren't hard countered by killer mechanics, whole healing builds are completely shut out by legion and plague, IW is countered by Plague again and Nemesis, DS and BT are countered by P-head plenty of perks are countered specific killers and its not like stealth killer make up very much of the killer cast on really Wraith and Ghost face rely on it and pig and Myers only touch on it since Myers only stays undetectable in his weakest form and pig doesn't just go everywhere crouched or anything.

    Not too mention Spine chill still works on stealth killers anyways so if you're really worried about OoO not being good enough run both its not a bad build with resilience and dead hard, as long as your good at looping at least and your not going against a nurse who knows what they're doing. Also I forgot too mention that with that key addon you can get free aura reading that way without even using OoO so unless they start dividing aura reading into stronger and weaker categories making it so they can see through undetectable wouldn't be a great idea imo

  • GoshJosh
    GoshJosh Member Posts: 4,992
    edited August 2021

    I use new OoO! You just have to be cognizant of when the 30 seconds is about to pass, whether or not you want your aura revealed at that time or not.

    Actually my only biggest grievance with OoO is that it only affects gen, totem cleansing, and healing speeds, and not all actions as Spine Chill and Resilience do. Perhaps they thought it would be busted in chase for vaulting if combo’d, but I don’t see why it can’t affect chests and gates.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,603

    I see no reason to remove the fact that undetectable also hides the killer's aura. Besides if a killer standing still inside Kindred's aura range just disappears there's a good chance he has insidious.

  • truegod_10
    truegod_10 Member Posts: 393

    Survivor aura perks currently are not great, but undetectable should remain as it is cause it is a solid mechanic that a lot of killer powers and perks are balanced around (dark devotion is only somewhat alright because of how good undetectable is, ghostface's power is in the same category, etc...). Changing this would require reworking a lot of things.

    Also, while most survivor aura perks are bad the presence of current undetectable as an effect allows the devs to potentially buff survivor aura perks or create new better ones. Finally, the info you can get from perks like alert is great in solo q to verify if someone is in chase; this could actually really impact stealth killers (but it still does not compare to the value you get from spine chill).