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Nurse should have one blink
Nurse is way OP right now. The only killer I see in pro tournaments is Nurse. Nobody even plays Billy anymore.
Nurse with one blink would be balanced and allow skilled killers to catch survivors without steamrolling over them with ease.
This should be combined with buffs for other killers so they're more viable.
(I'm a killer main.)
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@RemoveSWF said:
Nurse is way OP right now. The only killer I see in pro tournaments is Nurse. Nobody even plays Billy anymore.Nurse with one blink would be balanced and allow skilled killers to catch survivors without steamrolling over them with ease.
This should be combined with buffs for other killers so they're more viable.
(I'm a killer main.)
kek.
"Other killers are #########, they even stopped playing Billy. Let's nerf Nurse, so she can be ######### too, and I can escape everytime".
Yeah, entitlement at its finest.
If she is SOOOOO OP PLZN NERF, then why don't you start playing her?(((((I'm a survivor main)))))
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I disagree. Nurse it perfectly fine where she sits. She used to have 3 blinks. It got nerfed to 2. Nerfing her again to only one blink would ruin that killer. The first blink closes distance, the second one is a correction. Nurse is objectively the best killer in the game but only if played by someone that knows how to handle her. Her tremendously high skill cap is what makes her the only real rewarding killer to play because the learning never ends and there is always room for improvement with handling her abilities. You want to nerf the only killer that can make plays of her own against the over powered SWF cancer squads then be my guest. But you can be damn sure there wont be enough killers left in this game to fill the lobbies.
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Nurse doesnt need to be nerfed in the slightest.
The opposite in fact, she needs improvements.
Her addons are a complete mess, and there are still deadzones on various maps that she can't navigate.She's the only Killer being played in tournaments not because she's "OP", its because every other Killer is hot garbage. The only Killers that come even slightly close to being as good as her are Hillbilly & Huntress, and even they are way behind her.
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I am a killer main who does not use the nurse at all. The reasoning is I play casually and she requires more skill and patience to run her than I am willing to put in. She is the best killer yes, but only by those who can handle her. She does not need to be nerfed in the least bit. Her power is balanced by the skill required to play her.
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You’re not the only killer player that thinks this I’ve seen others say the same. I feel that nurse being op is masked by the game being unbalanced and the fact they just can’t afford to nerf her right now. I also feel like those add ons that make her able to have more than two blinks kinda takes a little away from the skill required for her.3
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@lasombra1979 said:
I am a killer main who does not use the nurse at all. The reasoning is I play casually and she requires more skill and patience to run her than I am willing to put in. She is the best killer yes, but only by those who can handle her. She does not need to be nerfed in the least bit. Her power is balanced by the skill required to play her.This so much. I respect that capabilities of the nurse and those that commit the time to learning and mastering her. I myself can only play her for dailies. I am hot garbage with her and get dumpstered alot with her. There is no middle ground with the nurse. You are either really good or really bad and that is what is so amazing with her. You master her and you will dominate but the slightest mistake can be very costly.
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@RemoveSWF said:
@RSB said:
If she is SOOOOO OP PLZN NERF, then why don't you start playing her?There is an actual answer to this - I use a controller.
Nurse has been unplayable with a controller since launch due to sensitivity issues. If I turn the sensitivity up so I can quickly turn after a blink, it's TOO sensitive when I want to make a precise turn or lunge during a chase.
Besides, her playstyle is extremely unfun. Killer in general is unfun. And I like using a variety of killers (actually the "top three" of Nurse, Billy and Huntress are the ones I play least, which is why I'd love to see those OP killers nerfed, survivors nerfed, and the weak killers buffed. Billy shouldn't be able to insta-chainsaw people around corners, and Huntress shouldn't be able to hatchet people around corners or accurately 360 noscope from 30ft away.)
lol everything you describe the good killers shouldn't be able to do is aspects of those killers that require skill. You just said killer is generally unfun. Your solution? Remove all aspects of skill behind the best killers because being a mindless M1 killer is so much fun. Then you say the nurses playstyle is extremely unfun. That is not an objective fact that is a subjective opinion. Alot of people have a blast playing nurse because it makes use of reflexes, muscle memory, proper timing, making reads on survivors and plan out your own plays.
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@ThePloopz I agree with you to a degree. The unbalance does mask a lot of the nurse OP, but even with the add ons that give more than two blinks, she is still a bit to handle, esp on the consoles. The multiple blinks do band aid the skill required, but does not remove it. Personally, I think the other killers need buffs before the nurse gets a nerf.
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Nurse is definitely fine the way she is given her insanely high skill cap. Her addons could use some reworks but nerfs are out of the question.
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@ThePloopz said:
You’re not the only killer player that thinks this I’ve seen others say the same. I feel that nurse being op is masked by the game being unbalanced and the fact they just can’t afford to nerf her right now. I also feel like those add ons that make her able to have more than two blinks kinda takes a little away from the skill required for her.Have you ever played her? I would like to tell you how I learned The Nurse. During this process, I realized that Addons are bad for her, and there is one reason for it. When you play The Nurse, it is all about knowing what is going to happen. Where will that Claudette go? Will she go left or right? Will she change direction so that I have to make a short blink? Does that Jake have Dead Hard? Will he jump over the window or hide and return behind the wall?
I agree that more blinks are helpfull for The Nurse. I usually play with three blinks, constantly using the same two addons. One extra blink, which slightly reduces the range, and a slightly increased range. I have adapted to play with these addons, but if I would change them, I would most likely fail miserably. The reason for this is that it changes the way she behaves. It is also knowing about how far the blink will go and how long her fatigue time is. If that changes, you will take a while to adapt to it.
As you may have noticed, I disagree that more blinks take away skill.4 -
@RemoveSWF said:
@SadonicShadow said:
lol everything you describe the good killers shouldn't be able to do is aspects of those killers that require skill.Bad hitboxes are not skill.
Billy insta-chainsawing around corners is a combination of OP add-ons and bad hitboxes
Huntress 360 noscope from a mile away is a sign of being an autistic savant, the kind of cancer that ruins Counter Strike with jumping headshots from the other side of the map. Even worse when it hits you around a corner because hitboxes are broken.
I don't feel like I get outplayed when I lose to a killer like that. I feel like the game screwed me, either because it's badly designed or because it allows savants to do things that are utterly absurd.
Billy insta-sawing around corners is a result of the sensitivity introduced for the billy in the first second of his sprint. A replacement to the flick that used to be present with him at release. It takes correct timing to land a chainsaw around a corner. It has nothing to do with "OP addons". Oh boi huntress should be nerfed because someone is good at throwing hatchets. Hate to break it to you bud but when you lose its not because the killer is OP its because your just bad at the game.
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@RemoveSWF said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@RemoveSWF said:
@SadonicShadow said:
lol everything you describe the good killers shouldn't be able to do is aspects of those killers that require skill.Bad hitboxes are not skill.
Billy insta-chainsawing around corners is a combination of OP add-ons and bad hitboxes
Huntress 360 noscope from a mile away is a sign of being an autistic savant, the kind of cancer that ruins Counter Strike with jumping headshots from the other side of the map. Even worse when it hits you around a corner because hitboxes are broken.
I don't feel like I get outplayed when I lose to a killer like that. I feel like the game screwed me, either because it's badly designed or because it allows savants to do things that are utterly absurd.
Billy insta-sawing around corners is a result of the sensitivity introduced for the billy in the first second of his sprint. A replacement to the flick that used to be present with him at release. It takes correct timing to land a chainsaw around a corner. It has nothing to do with "OP addons". Oh boi huntress should be nerfed because someone is good at throwing hatchets. Hate to break it to you bud but when you lose its not because the killer is OP its because your just bad at the game.
Dude claiming he's good because of broken hitboxes.
Survivors like you claimed abusing infinites was skill. The same kind of survivors who think pallet looping and 360s are skill now.
There's no skill in any of that, it's just abuse of gameplay mechanics.
I'm among the people who want true balance - nerf survivors, nerf the OP killers, buff the weak killers.
While you're abusing this broken game to spam chainsaws/hatches around corners, I've been to rank 1 killer as Wraith, Freddy, Pig, Leatherface, Trapper, etc etc.
Continue playing as the most OP killers in the game, you're relying on crutches to win matches. You don't know what skill is until you've done it with the weak killers like I have.
lol where did i say infinite and pallet looping was skill XD Dont go making stuff up. Spam chainsaws? How does one spam the chainsaw? From someone that mains Hillbilly spamming the chainsaw constantly is a good way to lose the game. Playing Hillbilly or Nurse is relying on crutches LMFAO. "You don't know what skill is until you've done it with the weak killers" Your joking right? There is no skill with the weak killers because they are 2 dimensional with simplistic powers. No learning curve at all. You pick them up and play them and hope to god the survivors are ass at the game. You dont want balance you want all the good killers that take time to learn too be nerfed so that you can have ez wins. Whenever a player comes along that knows how to handle one of the good killers you cry OP plz nerf. Give me a break.
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@zarstocher with the add ons you use you have one penalty for having 3 blinks you just have the fatigue time. So let’s say one nurse player has 2 blinks and the other has 3 with your add ons. Is it fair to say that the person with 2 blinks has less room for error and needs to be more precise because they only have 2 blinks whereas the other player can make a mistake but recover from it due to having that 3rd blink. You yourself said it’s helpful and the person with 2 blinks doesn’t have that help that the person with the 3 blinks has. I could be missing something as I am not a nurse expert and will not pretend I am. If I am missing something don’t hesitate to let me know1
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@RemoveSWF said:
And I like using a variety of killers (actually the "top three" of Nurse, Billy and Huntress are the ones I play least, which is why I'd love to see those OP killers nerfed.How about buffing the other killer instead?
How about that instead of nerfing the only viable killer at high level play
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@ThePloopz
Yeah that's true.
Having three blinks is fine. Two is default. And with two blinks, there is only one blink left to correct your mistakes.
Now, if you nerf The Nurse to only one blink, you are destroying her. Then, you force every Nurse to use additional blink addons... and kinda make all the other addons useless. Speaking of useless addons, I actually consider all the very rare addons for The Nurse useless, because they force you to use additional blinks because they remove from the default two blinks.2 -
Bruh Nurse with 1 blink is unplayable lmao
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@ZarStocher oh I don’t agree that nurse should have one blink at all. I just think that she’s a little too strong and when survivors get nerfed to balance the game along with other changes it’ll show. I’ve heard killer players say she’s a little op but this is the first time I’ve heard of a one blink thing. I think one blink would be really bad because at that point she’d be too easily juked by survivors and would be really unfun to play. You’d be looking more at the ground being fatigued than trying to kill the survivors lol1
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Lol yeah and when that happens I hope that survivors will have only one leg since two legs are OP.
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Nurse is actually, arguably too strong. But so are survivors.
As long as survivors are the power role of the game (instead of it being more of a balance on both sides), Nurse deserves her broken spot as much as survivors do.5 -
Having played 1 blink nurse against Queen and getting a few hits on her, I found it very difficult to land the second hit to down her. It was mainly long ranged blinks, followed by 3 minutes of me getting frustrated as she ran me around XD I think two blinks is a good spot for nurse
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HEY @Giddawid ? GIT GUD
ok serious answer now... The nurse power comes with downsides, her base speed is slower, the fatigue stun and her power make her lose LOS. These downsides to the nurse are things the survivors can use to their advantage. She is also very weak to stealth. At the moment we aren't considering changing her 2 blink basekit.
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The game as it is should not be completely about instant reactions and infinitely high-skill ceiling plays. I think we're inappropriately injecting Stress Fight or FPS mentality into what should be a horror game.
Multiple blinks really contribute to the Nurse's scare-factor and help her be more than just a top tier stomper. While I think three or more blink Nurse should be tweaked a little bit so that it's not as oppressive as it is now, her add ons should also do more to change her playstyle.
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Hey Queen - remember that time I played Myers against you? GIT GUDDER
clips.twitch.tv/SuspiciousCrepuscularVampireFunRun
But yes, what she said ^
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Most people that play as the nurse are actually pretty terrible with her. I rarely run into someone who is actually good with the nurse. Its a very strong killer for those that can use her but I think she is fine. It gets annoying when they nerf the killers just because some people can't survive against them. The games more fun when the killers are harder to beat. It makes the escape that much more satisfying.
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@RemoveSWF said:
Nurse is way OP right now. The only killer I see in pro tournaments is Nurse. Nobody even plays Billy anymore.Nurse with one blink would be balanced and allow skilled killers to catch survivors without steamrolling over them with ease.
This should be combined with buffs for other killers so they're more viable.
(I'm a killer main.)
I seriously disagree. The nurse has already been nerfed enough and the only reason you only see her in the higher leagues is because she's the only viable one. The answer is not nerfing her, but reworking the others.
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nurse is fine. git gud4
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i saw the title and expected much worse in here.... yall seem pretty calm. almost pleasant. i was expecting carnage and corspes.... and #########-smeared walls....
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@deadwolfwalking said:
i saw the title and expected much worse in here.... yall seem pretty calm. almost pleasant. i was expecting carnage and corspes.... and #########-smeared walls....Try to same on steam forums, for fun.
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@Runiver said:
@deadwolfwalking said:
i saw the title and expected much worse in here.... yall seem pretty calm. almost pleasant. i was expecting carnage and corspes.... and #########-smeared walls....Try to same on steam forums, for fun.
lmmfao. i've heard about DBD steam and reddit.... its like GTA online without mods apparently....
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@deadwolfwalking said:
@Runiver said:
@deadwolfwalking said:
i saw the title and expected much worse in here.... yall seem pretty calm. almost pleasant. i was expecting carnage and corspes.... and #########-smeared walls....Try to same on steam forums, for fun.
lmmfao. i've heard about DBD steam and reddit.... its like GTA online without mods apparently....
I've been there since the release of the game or so. It's an hilarious place, but it's very peculiar. You gotta get the best out of it, but once you figured the way, it has some great moments.
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Regardless of whether you think nurse is balanced or not, the devs are never going to do this because nurse players have each put in hundreds of hours into mastering just the one killer because they're strong when you put in the time to get good with them. If they nerf her that significantly, is that fair to all of those players? Of course not.
Didn't you see the backlash when they changed her the first time so that she could move up or down levels more easily?
Even if nurse is powerful, removing a blink so she only has one is like taking a sledgehammer to a problem that needs a screwdriver. If anything, nurse can be fixed by numbers. Make her fatigue longer, reduce the max range on the blink. It just doesn't make sense to make such a drastic change to how a beloved killer works when you could nerf her other ways.
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@Fropps said:
Regardless of whether you think nurse is balanced or not, the devs are never going to do this because nurse players have each put in hundreds of hours into mastering just the one killer because they're strong when you put in the time to get good with them. If they nerf her that significantly, is that fair to all of those players? Of course not.Didn't you see the backlash when they changed her the first time so that she could move up or down levels more easily?
Even if nurse is powerful, removing a blink so she only has one is like taking a sledgehammer to a problem that needs a screwdriver. If anything, nurse can be fixed by numbers. Make her fatigue longer, reduce the max range on the blink. It just doesn't make sense to make such a drastic change to how a beloved killer works when you could nerf her other ways.
Nevermind that there's also absolutely no good reason to nerf her (or any other Killer for that matter, but especially her) at the moment, seen as how the game is still and will remain significantly unbalanced towards Survivors in the near future, since 2.0.0 changes nothing about the flawed core mechanics.
And, speaking of flawed core mechanics: the depip squad was just as devastating for Nurses as for any other Killer they faced. The flawed core mechanics even have her powerless against Survivors who only focus on doing their objective.
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i've seen lots of nurse mains get knocked on their ass. nurse isn't OP. all killers need to be close to where she is. the game is a horror game....
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@RemoveSWF said:
Your Nurse is P3 because she has two blinks. That's my point.
If you're gud, you won't mind one blink. Yet here you are whining at the suggestion.
Scared of a challenge? Sounds like you just want to use an OP killer to stomp people, then claim your skill is why it happened rather than bad game balance.
Do it with one blink then come back and talk about your 1337 sk1llz.
If you CAN do it with one blink, you prove my point - she only NEEDS one blink.
I like that kind of arguments.
"If you don't do it with 1 blink, you need to git gud
If you do it with 1 blink, I'm right"
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@Runiver said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Your Nurse is P3 because she has two blinks. That's my point.
If you're gud, you won't mind one blink. Yet here you are whining at the suggestion.
Scared of a challenge? Sounds like you just want to use an OP killer to stomp people, then claim your skill is why it happened rather than bad game balance.
Do it with one blink then come back and talk about your 1337 sk1llz.
If you CAN do it with one blink, you prove my point - she only NEEDS one blink.
I like that kind of arguments.
"If you don't do it with 1 blink, you need to git gud
If you do it with 1 blink, I'm right"
kek.This thread has been a wonderful train of lolz. I think at this point the only thing we have uncovered is that OP is a noob survivor that is in strong need of Gituth of thy Gudith.
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@SadonicShadow said:
@Runiver said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Your Nurse is P3 because she has two blinks. That's my point.
If you're gud, you won't mind one blink. Yet here you are whining at the suggestion.
Scared of a challenge? Sounds like you just want to use an OP killer to stomp people, then claim your skill is why it happened rather than bad game balance.
Do it with one blink then come back and talk about your 1337 sk1llz.
If you CAN do it with one blink, you prove my point - she only NEEDS one blink.
I like that kind of arguments.
"If you don't do it with 1 blink, you need to git gud
If you do it with 1 blink, I'm right"
kek.This thread has been a wonderful train of lolz. I think at this point the only thing we have uncovered is that OP is a noob survivor that is in strong need of Gituth of thy Gudith.
I'm gonna resume it in a few words :
He's a leatherface main.0 -
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@RemoveSWF said:
@Runiver said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@Runiver said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Your Nurse is P3 because she has two blinks. That's my point.
If you're gud, you won't mind one blink. Yet here you are whining at the suggestion.
Scared of a challenge? Sounds like you just want to use an OP killer to stomp people, then claim your skill is why it happened rather than bad game balance.
Do it with one blink then come back and talk about your 1337 sk1llz.
If you CAN do it with one blink, you prove my point - she only NEEDS one blink.
I like that kind of arguments.
"If you don't do it with 1 blink, you need to git gud
If you do it with 1 blink, I'm right"
kek.This thread has been a wonderful train of lolz. I think at this point the only thing we have uncovered is that OP is a noob survivor that is in strong need of Gituth of thy Gudith.
I'm gonna resume it in a few words :
He's a leatherface main.Nurse is the most OP killer in the game.
You're in no position to mock anybody.
Nurse being OP or not, I'm in position to mock whoever I want.
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Nurse is fine. I'm actually scared of a good Nurse, which should be the case for every killer.
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nah i think shes fine.RemoveSWF said:Your Nurse is P3 because she has two blinks. That's my point.
If you're gud, you won't mind one blink. Yet here you are whining at the suggestion.
Scared of a challenge? Sounds like you just want to use an OP killer to stomp people, then claim your skill is why it happened rather than bad game balance.
Do it with one blink then come back and talk about your 1337 sk1llz.
If you CAN do it with one blink, you prove my point - she only NEEDS one blink.
you will either git gud, or ragequit. we dont care 0 -
stop feeding trolls
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@Brady said:
Nurse is fine. I'm actually scared of a good Nurse, which should be the case for every killer.damn right.... i occasionally play swf and they always say 'oh #########. its a nurse'.... they need to be saying 'oh #########. theres a killer in here' regardless of which one....
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