New Player Thoughts
First of all i really enjoy the game and got "hooked".
But... I did play some times with Survivor to around 35, getting catched pretty fast, messing up skillchecks frequently and dont felt comfy with it at all. So i decided to play Killer and have never seen such a toxicity in any game i played, not even some famous Moba title got a community this salty and toxic.
I learned Pretty fast that you are forced to get almost every Killer to 40+ to get the desired perks needed to just stand any Chance against the infinite wall of SWF, DS, SC, BT, Purple Flashlights, Unbreakable, Teabagging, and getting flamed in every thinkable way. All gens are fired in 3-4mins, your chasing one person down after 3mins of looping teabagging and flashlighting, you get one guy, you are near the hook because 3 SWF guys trying to get one of the hook and you outplay them by grabing one of the hooked person you are a ######### camper. If you chase down a random Person because hes injured and the last possible option to get some points you are a noob tunneler.
So plz someone tell me whats the right way? Join a game stare in the sky and wave your mouse as fast as you can until everyone is out?
You have no chance against a good Group of survivors without the must have perk builds unless you play Killer for 1000+ hours. Makes it really awkward for a new player 
Ps: I know i Need to git gud, im on it 
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You pretty much nailed it :
The early survivor game is painful as heck. You get quickly dispatched and destroyed by killers since the mecanics aren't noob friendly.
The early killer game is pure gamble. You might encounter new survivors that you're gonna destroy, or experienced survivors and get bullied. In any case, you're gonna get insulted in the endgame chat because people want you to play on some other ways.
My suggestion is :
Pick a killer you like to play, and try not stressing it out and getting better. Read some guides, learn the ropes on both sides.
Or simply play survivor and get better. Possibly get yourself some experienced friends to play with that could teach you the ropes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgMmyoDzNQ
This guide is pretty good for the killer basics for example.
Don't forget that holding M1 makes you lunge, which increase your attack range.But in any case : find a BP farming method in some ways, and don't prestige unless you are settled and have secondary characters to rely on.
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Think that's the wrong video, mate.
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Your best bet is to gun down a single survivor and take them out asap, that way you can snowball a lot easier.
They're gonna get salty at you. Ignore them.0 -
@Visionmaker
Thank you, editer the video link! (failed my copy pasta!)0 -
If you're new to killer, you don't stand a prayer against experienced survivors, try not to take the losses to heart. You will want the teachable BBQ&Chili from The Cannibal DLC ($4) ASAP to get bloodpoints faster.
Other than this, learn the basic fundamentals, if you have specific questions please ask, add me on Steam (Leatherbilly) if you want to ask questions!
I strongly recommend picking one killer to start out with and sticking to them for a while, learning them in and out and outfitting them with a load-out that works. Here's a bit about each killer to help you pick one, it's more about your playstyle than anything at this point:
Recommended Killers
The Hillbilly
Max Thompson is the second most powerful killer in the game, sporting both tremendous map pressure and an instant down. Once you learn how to control his initial flick at the beginning of the charge, how to handle close range chainsaws, knowing when not to rev up and a few other tricks, he becomes exceptionally effective.
Strengths: Map pressure, mobility, instant downs
Weaknesses: Loopable, initial difficultyThe Wraith
Philip Ojomo is the second weakest killer in Dead By Daylight and is a stealth killer, but he teaches you the fundamentals of outplaying survivors because his power contributes little to his ability to chase, but helps you find survivors to initiate said chases. I don't recommend playing him long-term, but he's okay to learn the game on.
Strengths: Easy to use
Weaknesses: Highly loopable, very few strengths, Sprint BurstThe Cannibal
Bubba "Junior" Sawyer, or Leatherface, is straightforward to learn but still has a decent skill cap with which to learn and improve. He's fairly effective, and has 3 of the best perks in the game. You'll want BBQ&Chili ASAP to rank up faster by the way. Only downside is he's paid DLC, but it's the cheapest killer DLC at $4. He is the best at punishing altruism in the entire game.
Strengths: Instant downs, easy to pick up, punishes altruism
Weaknesses: Paid DLC, loopable, Sprint BurstOptional Killers
The Shape
Michael Myers is the best licensed killer in Dead By Daylight, but he is highly, highly add-on reliant and not as easy as he may initially seem to get the hang of. That said, he transitions into a very serviceable killer once you learn the game and get into the more competitive ranks. Myers is the strongest stealth killer in Dead By Daylight, so if you enjoy jump-scaring survivors and being generally sneaky, Michael is a excellent choice. He punishes some loops by stalking the survivors down and via an extended lunge & faster vaults can cut down on some looping. Try to get 99% Evil Within II and juice it up to III when you want access to your instant downs.
Strengths: Stealth, instant downs, combats looping
Weaknesses: Still loopable, wastes time stalkingThe Doctor
Herman Carter is a little harder than the likes of Wraith to learn, but is fairly effective once you get add-ons for him; therein lies the rub though, he really needs his add-ons. He is useful at negating survivors' attempts at stealth and can combat some loops, some of the time, but largely relies on mistakes. He can hinder generator progression against many survivors.
Strengths: Anti-stealth, combats some loops, somewhat combats gen-rushing
Weaknesses: Still loopableThe Nurse
Sally Smithson is the strongest killer in the game, but she's exceptionally difficult to learn, nearly impossible to master. Everything else is all positives though, because she doesn't really even need add-ons to dominate games, and even with sub-optimal perks a well played Nurse will still be a terror. She's the only killer to truly counter loops.
Strengths: Hard counters loops, short chases, high mobility
Weaknesses: Difficult to useThe Huntress
Anna, the Russian, axe-throwing rabbit. The third best killer in the game and can counter many loops, but is the most susceptible to stealth due to her incessant humming and is rather slow, and further wastes time searching lockers. Master her, and she can stomp games, but she's not the easiest killer to pick up, let alone get proficient with.
Strengths: Counters loops, long range attacks, potential instant downs
Weaknesses: Difficult to use, susceptible to stealthThe Pig
The third stealth killer, Amanda Young has a crouch to ambush and RBTs to prevent exits and waste survivors' time. Relatively perk dependent but her add-ons only help her marginally.
Strengths: Not add-on dependent, wastes survivors' time, prevents escapes
Weaknesses: Sprint Burst, loopingNot Recommended
The Trapper
Evan MacMillan wastes time collecting traps, setting traps, re-setting traps, getting looped, moving traps, ad nauseam. Furthermore, he's a relatively weak killer, though capable of punishing stupidity and poorly chosen looping spots. Traps can be disarmed, destroyed or even ignored due to hitboxes if found.
Strengths: Punishes misplays and counters loops
Weaknesses: Wastes an incredible amount of time, has entirely too much counterplayThe Hag
Lisa Sherwood is a decent killer when mastered but she's basically an even more difficult to play Trapper with an ocean of counterplay. On top of her difficulty, she's not as effective as Huntress or Nurse, so if you want a difficult killer, learn them instead unless the Hag strikes your fancy.
Strengths: Punishes misplays and can counter loops
Weaknesses: Flashlights, paying attention, Sprint BurstThe Nightmare
Freddy Kreuger is a special case. If you like the other killers, by all means use them, but for the Entity's sake DO NOT play Freddy. He's pitifully weak and will remain so until the developer's buffs they have for him in the future. Pretend he doesn't exist, don't buy him, don't even think about him in any capacity until he's changed.
Strengths: Is paid DLC so you can't get his dailies
Weaknesses: He's a basic killer with contingencies on his basic attack with a trivially easy to escape Dream World0 -
Welcome my friend, to the world of playing killer. This is where you will find the most stressful experience of any video game ever, Dark Souls envies this ######### it's so stressful. Playing Killer is an almost always awful experience where you are not in control of the game at all. If you do well as killer, it's not because your good at killer, not to say your bad either, but the only way the killer wins is due to survivors messing up and the killer being able to capitalise on it. The killer has been underpowered for about a year or so now,maybe longer, but balance means jack ######### to the developers, and whenever they do balance it always ends in favor of the survivors. Someday when enough killer mains like me have stopped playing killer due to the stress, maybe then the game will be fixed, but until then they seem to not give a ######### about the balance and have no intent of fixing it, and if they do intend to they do it a sluggish pace which is completely unjustifiable seeing as they have had at least a year to fix it.0
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@MrDrakanator said:
Welcome my friend, to the world of playing killer. This is where you will find the most stressful experience of any video game ever, Dark Souls envies this ######### it's so stressful. Playing Killer is an almost always awful experience where you are not in control of the game at all. If you do well as killer, it's not because your good at killer, not to say your bad either, but the only way the killer wins is due to survivors messing up and the killer being able to capitalise on it. The killer has been underpowered for about a year or so now,maybe longer, but balance means jack ######### to the developers, and whenever they do balance it always ends in favor of the survivors. Someday when enough killer mains like me have stopped playing killer due to the stress, maybe then the game will be fixed, but until then they seem to not give a ######### about the balance and have no intent of fixing it, and if they do intend to they do it a sluggish pace which is completely unjustifiable seeing as they have had at least a year to fix it.Basically what he said. But not_queen stated they are working on some balance issues to make Killer more enjoyable. I have a lot of doubts due to past instances regarding the same subject, but I'll have faith. Who knows? Maybe the devs will surprise us with some actual balance instead of just disappointing us again.
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Interessting. Everyone knows about how doomed Killers are and the devs just do not care...
I played Hag so far on 40 because of the hex perks and wrath to 35. Trying to get leatherface and billy up now.Wouldnt it be great to make it a lot easyier for survivors to pip?
Or give the Survivor/Killers only the unique perks at rank 3 for the specific charakter and for all others cap it at rank 1?
And to top it off i would like to have a colorblind mode (only put some more blue shades into the red/green ones) Half of mankind is Red/Green blind like me and doesnt see bloody claudetes in the green/brown Gras.
Killer ranking up is way too fast. almost guaranteed to pip if you manage to get one kill, rank 15+ is pure waste of time for mePost edited by Molim0 on0 -
@Molim0 said:
Interessting. Everyone knows about how doomed Killers are and the devs just do not care...
I played Hag so far on 40 because of the hex perks and wrath to 35. Trying to get leatherface and billy up now.Wouldnt it be great to make it a lot easyier for survivors to pip?
Or give the Survivor/Killers only the unique perks at rank 3 for the specific charakter and for all others cap it at rank 1?
And to top it off i would like to have a colorblind mode (only put some more blue shades into the red/green ones) Half of mankind is Red/Green blind like me and doesnt see bloody claudetes in the green/brown Gras.
Killer ranking up is way too fast. almost guaranteed to pip if you manage to get one kill, rank 15+ is pure waste of time for meSurvivor will be easier to pip on the patch that is happening the 12th june.
I dislike the idea of perk limitations. I feel like the perk themselves should be balanced, rather than giving some limited mecanics.
About the colorblind mod, I personally use Nvidia Freestyle (a beta feature on Nvidia Experience). It requires an older driver (390.77) to work for Dbd, and to have the overlay + beta features activated.
Then it has some graphic features, along with colorblind features, that I personally use since I'm slightly colorblind.0 -
@Molim0 said:
First of all i really enjoy the game and got "hooked".But... I did play some times with Survivor to around 35, getting catched pretty fast, messing up skillchecks frequently and dont felt comfy with it at all. So i decided to play Killer and have never seen such a toxicity in any game i played, not even some famous Moba title got a community this salty and toxic.
I learned Pretty fast that you are forced to get almost every Killer to 40+ to get the desired perks needed to just stand any Chance against the infinite wall of SWF, DS, SC, BT, Purple Flashlights, Unbreakable, Teabagging, and getting flamed in every thinkable way. All gens are fired in 3-4mins, your chasing one person down after 3mins of looping teabagging and flashlighting, you get one guy, you are near the hook because 3 SWF guys trying to get one of the hook and you outplay them by grabing one of the hooked person you are a [BAD WORD] camper. If you chase down a random Person because hes injured and the last possible option to get some points you are a noob tunneler.
So plz someone tell me whats the right way? Join a game stare in the sky and wave your mouse as fast as you can until everyone is out?
You have no chance against a good Group of survivors without the must have perk builds unless you play Killer for 1000+ hours. Makes it really awkward for a new player
Ps: I know i Need to git gud, im on it
One advice, make sure you dodge SWF in lobby. If you see that several survivors join at the same time or shortly delayed, then there is a high possibility that its a SWF. Just quit and open a new lobby, as killer you never have high wait times because the majority prefers the easy playstyle as survivor
Another advice, dodge every twitch or youtube guy, they are the most toxic ones. Sure, there are some exceptions, but 99% of the time I didnt dodge a streamer, I regreted it in the match
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The best advice is to just ignore or laugh about survivor's toxicity. Most of times is just a way to hide their "suckyness"
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Now this is not me excusing the imbalance of the game or anything,because you should be able to play any killer. But I well you, you are getting pretty much the worst possile experience you could by playing the Wraith and the hag. Both of these killer's are generally looked at as being in the worst 3. I personally think the hag is the absolute worst killer in the game (unpopular opinion as Freddy is generally looked at as the worst). If you want to have a semi-decent kind of sort of indirectly half was enjyable killer experience, you gotta pretty much devote your entire time to the nurse and the hillbilly, they are the 2 best killers in the game, so just a tip, I recommend you play those killers.Molim0 said:Interessting. Everyone knows about how doomed Killers are and the devs just do not care...
I played Hag so far on 40 because of the hex perks and wrath to 35. Trying to get leatherface and billy up now.Wouldnt it be great to make it a lot easyier for survivors to pip?
Or give the Survivor/Killers only the unique perks at rank 3 for the specific charakter and for all others cap it at rank 1?
And to top it off i would like to have a colorblind mode (only put some more blue shades into the red/green ones) Half of mankind is Red/Green blind like me and doesnt see bloody claudetes in the green/brown Gras.
Killer ranking up is way too fast. almost guaranteed to pip if you manage to get one kill, rank 15+ is pure waste of time for me0 -
Welcome to Dead By Daylight. The most addictive yet most frustrating game i have ever played. It is the perfect example of a Love and Hate relationship. My suggestion is give absolutely zero ######### on what the survivors think. Play your killer how you want to play. The salty, toxic survivors are generally whiny, entitled brats that expect you to adhere to a bunch of made of rules. Be ruthless, show no mercy. Camp, tunnel, use every trick in the book to ensure you are victorious. The opinions of your prey do not matter in the slightest. They will insult and berate you if you win or lose so you might aswell try your best to win. Good luck.
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@MrDrakanator said:
Now this is not me excusing the imbalance of the game or anything,because you should be able to play any killer. But I well you, you are getting pretty much the worst possile experience you could by playing the Wraith and the hag. Both of these killer's are generally looked at as being in the worst 3. I personally think the hag is the absolute worst killer in the game (unpopular opinion as Freddy is generally looked at as the worst). If you want to have a semi-decent kind of sort of indirectly half was enjyable killer experience, you gotta pretty much devote your entire time to the nurse and the hillbilly, they are the 2 best killers in the game, so just a tip, I recommend you play those killers.Yes, i know they are lower tier killers. But the perks are top tier thats why i choose to play them first. Hillbilly and Nurse are hard to learn/master but will be in my queue.
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@Leatherbilly said:
The Trapper
Evan MacMillan wastes time collecting traps, setting traps, re-setting traps, getting looped, moving traps, ad nauseam. Furthermore, he's a relatively weak killer, though capable of punishing stupidity and poorly chosen looping spots. Traps can be disarmed, destroyed or even ignored due to hitboxes if found.
Gonna have to disagree. Trapper is actually a good mid-tier killer and destroys in the hands of a master. I'd actually put him above Bubba due to his ability to close loops.
His power takes set up time, this much is true. And he certainly isn't as brainless to play as Bubba. However, he's a good thinking man's killer. Besides, you'll at least want to grab his perks as while they aren't super meta, are still strong in certain builds.
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