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The woke culture got dbd now...
You all just want to boycott another thing. You people try to be nice person by saying Behaviour are monsters.
Did Behaviour sold NFT ? No. Are they detroying the planet like evil machines ? No.
Stop with this wokeness non sense and support your favorite game.
There are people working at the company that didnt made the decision of Pinhead contract. People who love to please us by making models, maps, gameplay.
Im not playing this game because of the company, Im playing this game because I love it so much and so all workers on Behaviour.
So stop boycotting things for no reasons because it is à la mode.
Im so excited for Hour of the Witch patch, for the Halloween event and for what will happen next to one of my favorite game.
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When someone is blaming 'woke culture' in the wake of something going wrong, it's a pretty strong indication they're not someone worth taking seriously.
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When at least one past and current worker at BHVR, both relatively senior without being management, were unhappy with the news that came out yesterday, I very much agree that the majority of the people working on the game didn't necessarily approve of the NFT.
But continuing to support the game tells the management that DID make the call to do this that it's ok to keep doing it.
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yes because not wanting the company behind your favourite game to support something which is almost always associated with global warming and criminal activity is so woke.
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Some of you want to be contrarian so badly, and for literally no reason. There won't be a game to play and "love" when the world burns up lol
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They did lie straight to our faces though
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They worked with them to make the model and the NFT's can give you access to the chapter
I feel like that is all I really need to say
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You're right that BHVR aren't the ones who made the NFTs nor even really should be blamed for their existence, but this has nothing to do with "woke culture"
I mean, woke culture isn't a real thing, but even when people use the term disingenuously it doesn't mean this. NFTs are a real, credible threat that cause real, measurable problems- Park Ave and Boss Protocol deserve all the hatred and scorn they can get, and BHVR deserve scorn and disappointment for not turning this down (assuming they had the ability to do so, it's not clear how much leeway they had currently).
There's a real problem here and it's not people finding something to be mad about baselessly. This community does have a problem with that, but it isn't what caused this.
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You use those words, yet I don't think you know what they mean.
No one here is being "woke". Half of the people on the forums aren't even anywhere close to what you people call "Woke".
Everyone here is mad for different reasons: The dishonesty, the deceit, the NFTs, BHVR blindsiding not just the community but also people working for them, corporate greed, licenses being held hostage, etc.
The people who use these words without understanding what they mean are most often the people who'll be exploited the most by those they defend.
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Thats what I was thinking, you have no argument except "Im boycotting because im woke"
I dont care about the company, I care about the game, the devs, and the players.
But maybe your wokeness cant understand I dissociate workers and companies :x
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I mean it's easily argued that the amount of time a single person spends playing the game and consuming energy is comparable to the amount of energy a single NFT transaction takes.
Responsibility falls onto the consumer by continuing to support the product, whether or not the product is directly related to the NFT transactions. Ultimately, it's on you, the player reading this right now, to make the decision to support this business practice as everyone reading the forums is now a little bit more informed on these business practices.
Keep in mind, only the obvious consequences are being discussed. The full ramifications of this whole ordeal is still fully unknown to the consumer, and each passing day of using this product furthers more irrevocable consequences that most would otherwise not cause the effect of IF they knew about it ahead of time. Part of the magic of life is not knowing ahead of time, but you're all capable of being much better informed from this point forward.
Nobody involved in any of this is blameless, including both the company and the consumer.
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It's okay. Your dishonest and superficial takes are just further proof of what I said.
To spell it out for the audience: our money went to supporting NFTs, which are an environmental disaster on par with the smog produced in entire countries. To boot, BHVR lied about it. Employees at BHVR are outraged, customers are outraged, the larger communities of horror and games are outraged - the only reason not to view this as a bad thing is self-interested, head in the sand obstinance.
If you truly cared about the game, the devs, the players, anyone but yourself, you'd try to be on the side of fixing what's broken, rather than whining about 'woke culture'
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And we're boycotting the company. The one who sided with the NFT. Your imaginary point being?
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Agreed.
I say let the squealers squeal and the rest of us will enjoy the game. Cheers.
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You love the workers at BHVR? Do you know they they, both old and new employees, have renounced NFTs and are mad that they were tricked into working on them?
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But you all try to boycott the company right ?
If a company lost players and money, they will just fire employees and survive.
So whats the point ?
Boycotting is useless. You just make the employees life harder.
Support the employees of Behaviour that are against NFT by playing the game. So they can do something in the company. As players we cant do something against Behaviour, we can just support the workers.
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You can't excuse every deplorable act with the cop out of "woke cancel culture". Grow some principles.
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How is this 'woke'? Woke implies mediocre politics hamfisted by mediocre people with a 99% chance of having skeletons in their closet. This is just a bad business deal charged with greed and negligence. Nothing woke about being against it or the concept of boycott.
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Dogwhistling at it's finest.
They claim the boycott is just "people wanting to be outraged at something", when the ironic thing is that they just want something to be outraged and yell "WOKE CANCEL CULTURE!!" at
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Like I said I support workers, not the company.
If you boycott a company, they will lost money and fire employees. Im here for the devs and I will continue to play the game and buy cosmetics.
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For real dude! All Behaviour did was to give some DLC codes and 3d models of pinhead skins... This community just love to make drama.
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Support the employees of BHVR that are against NFTs by boycotting the game, so that dishonest people like Anara can be shown that consumers can, in fact, have an impact on company policy and practice - as shown through a long, worldwide history of successful boycotts.
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Thank you.
I absolutely hate when people mention woke culture or cancel culture as a cop out to not face real criticism. It's absolutely deployable
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If they 'fire' employees then those employees will go to a company that recognizes their value and talents without exploiting them. When BHVR is in shambles that their one good game has been ruined, maybe they'll get the hint.
"As players we cant do something against Behaviour," It's this mentality that BHVR is counting on. Passive players who will go with the flow and let them get away with murder. This is blatantly false- the only way to stand up to tyranny (both micro and macro, political and financial, in games or in real life) is to unite together and tell them "Hey, this is wrong and we won't stand for it. Fix this problem or face the consequences of your actions."
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Boycotting = massive fired of employees.
Im not that person sorry, Im here for workers.
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I'm not going to get political here, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say you haven't really thought hard about that statement
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Also about that "employees" part...
Former Programmer and pretty much DBD community's choice for "Best dev who did something", McLean.
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The reason this persons profile picture is a fish is because this is bait
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Union-busting rhetoric from a bad faith actor doesn't work on a digital consumer-base, kiddo.
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I don't think you know what "woke" is.
I'm about as critical of woke culture as one can get for still being centrist. BHVR done wrong with this NFT crap.
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So what you're saying is we should continue to support subpar and exploitative, not to mention manipulative and deceitful practices because of a couple hundred workers?
Hey, did you know Nestle "hires" child workers to work on their cocoa farm? You'd love to support them don't you?
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I know him and Im not for NFT. Just dont attack a company if it can affect workers.
Blah blah blah
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Spoken like a true bot
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Don't use workers to shield the company from unethical practices.
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this.
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"Blah blah blah" sums up your entire take on this quite nicely.
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Dumbest ######### I've read on here......
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Dudes sitting there looking at the workers in Chinese sweat shops screaming about how they will lose their jobs if we boycott Nike. Like I'm pretty sure the 12 year old girl doesn't want to work for the sweat shop that she's forced to work for
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Ok so hypothetically speaking say there was a factory with workers in it. The factory is engaged in the practice of overworking their staff for little pay and unsafe working conditions.
By your logic your saying that they shouldn't boycott the company and factory to do better because the workers will not have a job. Does that make sense?
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Thank you for that interesting comment.
I can understand what you mean and I get you. The workers can be used as a shield to defend a company.
But what I was saying is workers are a priority compare to the company to me. The company is just a name, workers are real people.
You all are boycotting a name for a few human faults but you are impacting a hundreds of people.
For my own, I dont want to hinder the majority because of the mistakes of the minority.
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I want to mention.
There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, but that doesn't mean we as individuals can't have morals.
Not to mention, you should not work to survive. You should work to have a livelihood. If someone is indeed in desperate need of a job to be able to have the basic human right to eat, to drink, to sleep safely under a roof. Then we have bigger issues to deal with than one company making a very awful decision.
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I bet you also still play Blizzard games too, huh?
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Don't you know, caring for sexual assault victims and victims of sexism and racism will hurt them instead of help them! Cause that makes sense /s
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Oh hey, friend
Here's another worker you want to so desperately defend in BHVR condemning the same exact decision their company is doing right now:
Eric Bourdages is the lead character artist and the person who made the PINHEAD MODEL for the game. AKA, the exact thing being sold as an NFT.
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Not anymore I stopped wow years ago. But if I had time yes I would, love this game.
The Blizzard scandal was a terrible thing because people lost their job because of some few #########. Thats why the boycott is toxic towards workers, but not the company.
Now that the bad peoples are fired from Blizzard why should I not play again ? For the loving devs that made good contents ?
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But the bad people aren't gone. Blizzard is still working with Wilmerhale to union bust the people demanding change in the company during the many lawsuits they're facing
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People doing something ######### and being called out for it isn't 'woke culture'.
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The bad people of Blizzard are fired and in a lawsuit for sexual harassment.
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Right, because they definitely got them all. Also, the company totally responded to union requests and the safety concerns of the WORKERS that they put in +80 days ago. Good guy Blizzard showing BHVR how its done! /s
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No only the ones labeled in the dog and pony show got sacked. The upper management that allowed the culture and knew about it is still there. Don't talk #########. Trust me when I say I have researched the Blizzard case much more than you.
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Nothing can be done in one day, Blizzard has still a lot of work about that, I agree.
But I know some devs of Blizzard that are very friendly to the community and other workers. I want to support them instead of boycotting and not made them fired because of lack of money.
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