Why would you remove the hatch?

OnlyJordan
OnlyJordan Member Posts: 2
edited October 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

You’re ruining the game and fun for friends to play together. Why because 4 people can escape from the hatch? Killers have multiple options to prevent them from leaving with that hatch and key. They are also very rare to come by and now you just made them useless?


great game you guys are making, catering everything for the killers because they cry and wine, this game is getting ruined for the survivors and isn’t going to be enjoyable anymore if you give everything these killers want or cry about.

I honestly hope to see more people who play survivor boycot playing this game until this gets fixed. I was super excited to play this game with friends on halloween event and you do this, every killer just camping on hook still getting great points, while the survivors get nothing, and everything they are given to for a chance at escaping removed.

i personally will not be playing this game anymore until things change. Killers have more than enough advantages to winning.

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  • GoshJosh
    GoshJosh Member Posts: 4,992

    Your title is misleading, but yeah there was no reason to gut the hatch as hard as they did. Should have at least let it continue to spawn once all five generators are repaired. Wouldn't have needed to really change keys or the achievement either. #BHVR

  • Nayru
    Nayru Member Posts: 567

    hello

    my suggestion for the hatch/key issue was always that hatch = 4-5 sec action that resets if you get interrupted, hatch opens, you go through, hatch closes, if this leaves only one survivor in the trial, egc is triggered

    so one key, one escape, no escape in chase unless you massively outplay the killer, no mass swf escape unless you massively outplay the killer + all have keys, in which case fair enough

    but then i also think death hook mori was a bad cave and it could've been worked out a lot better than effectively just turning into 'ds ignorer on death hook like pyramid head', so take that as you will

    i mostly play(ed) killer (lolsbmm) and that was my idea for such, would that have been a more acceptable system

  • Dino7281
    Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,294
    edited October 2021

    I thought about this version too, it has one problem.

    It would still allow 2-man escape.

    You open hatch with key, hatch closes -> game finds out there is only one player left -> hatch opens.

    And I really wouldn't want to play with randoms using key that I know they will just ditch me, instead of doing gens, while I am looping killer.

    Thing is, that their change actually improved even basic game without key imo, because it's less rare to have killer / survivor just camping hatch waiting for last survivor to die, which was just boring. Right now you almost always have contest who will find hatch first, which can result in some funny situations, unless someone find that hatch with animation bug.

    "killers because they cry and wine"

    Said surivor that is crying on forum...

    "ruining the game and fun for friends to play together"

    If you could have fun only with key as SWF, you really must suck as a survivor, no wonder you are upset about this change, but I am sure you didn't mind Mori nerf. Killers wanted to have fun too...


    "Killers have multiple options to prevent them from leaving with that hatch and key"

    Oh that will be fun, what options?

    Camp the hatch? They could open it instantly.

    Use Frenklyn's? They could drop the key till hatch spawns.

    Tunnel someone? Yeah, hatch just spawned sooner.

  • Nayru
    Nayru Member Posts: 567

    no, in my system as i stated if you key out and there's only one survivor left in the trial, not only does it not open but it triggers egc as if it was closed

    i get that keys can be very irritating with screwing people over randomly but this game's always had an element of that and sometimes you might actually have better chances playing exit gate vs the killer than anything else depending on the map and how they spawn

  • Dino7281
    Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,294
    edited October 2021

    I don't know about you, but I would be really pissed as that second surivor and last second switch keys would be done, because of your teammates leaving lobby, not the killer.

    Even with two players left, it is possible to finish gens when one of the survivors is good at looping, because killers are usually forced to over-commit at that point, survivor with key would just give up and started looking for hatch, so he could ditch me.

    So I am really happy about this change from both sides.

    Killer: don't have to deal with free Key escapes.

    Survivor: I still have good chance to get hatch randomly, because killer can't find it (unless really lucky with animation bug) in advance and camp it before last survivor die.

  • Nayru
    Nayru Member Posts: 567

    as i noted i didn't support moris getting punted to what they are now and thus i don't support key-hatch interaction being turned into mori either

    i understand why people would want both and like both, but it is what it is and i feel there was better solutions with more options (in key's case of just relegating it to guaranteeing escape if follow the killer around with third person view out of sight until they find hatch and eventually leave)

  • baseballfan4877
    baseballfan4877 Member Posts: 364

    you are upset that you and your 4 friends cant just use a key to get out for free? hilarious. Stay in hell keys.

  • DaddyFatSacks420
    DaddyFatSacks420 Member Posts: 183

    Should let the hatch continue to spawn once all 5 gens are repaired seems plenty reasonably. It would still need a key (except when 1 survivor left)

  • LapisInfernalis
    LapisInfernalis Member Posts: 4,218

    I had similar ideas but we all know the Devs usually don't chose the wisest options.

  • Nayru
    Nayru Member Posts: 567

    it's not the killer or the survivor side - no it's not

    it's not the pubbo or the swf side - no it's NOT

    it's the dev side - you are correct

  • ThatOneDemoPlayer
    ThatOneDemoPlayer Member Posts: 5,623

    So, let me get this straight. You are crying about Killer's not liking games getting ended prematurely. Have you ever played Killer against a key or did you think it was easy because you suck at Survivor and got tunneled because you brought keys? Just asking