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Ghostface should be a 120% killer
I feel like Ghostface needs a little more oomph in a chase because he pretty much only has his undetecable, with his stalking being unreliable at best. His biggest competitor, Wraith, has 150% movement when he is cloaked which allows for good map control, and also has an extended windstorm lunge. I feel like ghostface being a little faster would greatly help his 1v1 which is isn't so great at. What would you guys think about giving ghostface a little speed boost to make him feel more like a ninja.
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He NEEEDS something that's for sure. Stanky.
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Maybe he can move slightly faster when chasing survivors he exposes with his power? Or charges bloodlust faster in that scenario
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I would honestly argue that most M1 killers should be 120%.
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I agree. That's why I run Play With Your Food on him.
I wouldn't mind something else for him that isn't a conditional perk though.
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All the time, no?
Chasing exposed survivor? That might be interesting.
It's weird compare him to Wraith, Wraith has quite massive drawback for that. I doubt you want that on Ghostface.
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Chasing an exposed survivor is enough of an advantage since they go down immediately and can't hold w to the other side of the map. I think he should just have 120% movement speed
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Well he needs something. Multiple times even after exposing a survivor he or she will just loop me until the effect goes away. You can't always do it sneakily. I love my ghostyboy but damn he has issues and lately i havent been playing him at all.
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Honestly I'd be down to try it. He definitely needs something.
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I guess it depends on where you are when you proc your power...
I think most of the time getting too close to a survivor they will at least hear you and be cautious. Not a good idea in my experience to be too close to survivors when stalking.
Also if all the M1 killers were good enough to run around and M1 without fear then there would be no need for their powers. They would all have very similar gameplay. That gets repetitive and old very fast at least for me
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He needs something "out of the box" like a basekit buff. Just balancing his add-on won't do any good.
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I don't think every m1 killer needs to be 120%, just ghostface. Legion already gets a free hit with his power, clown gets slowdown and a 10% haste.
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Uh, how about no. So he has a built in one-tap, and now he gets to go faster to gurantee to hit you with it, unlike Wraith who has to position himself to still reach you after coming out of cloak and has to hit you twice. I agree he needs a pass over to buff him, especially against skilled swfs but this ain't it.
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He doesn't have a built in one-tap, it is almost impossible to fully stalk survivors unless they just aren't paying attention. Also being 120% isn't even close to guaranteeing a hit. I also like how you think that Wraith takes more skill to play than Ghostface ??
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He does have a 'built-in' one-tap, as that is his power where other killers such as Huntress and Blight need add ons. I don't know who you have played against or how hard it is for you to play gf but the ones I go against get stalks off left and right, even multiple survivors at the same time. Now, securing the down against a good looper is a different story. At 120% movement speed after a stalk, he would be all but certain to get a down every time. Also, I never said Wraith was harder to play than GF. I was pointing out his movement speed was balanced. He can't expose you, then zoom across the map to down you with ONE hit.
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The only way for ghostface to stalk a good player is to constantly crouch spam and get .5 seconds of stalk around a corner each time they run around a loop, which takes forever and isn't worth it. So yeah he does "technically" have a built in lethality, but nowhere near the level of bubba, billy, and myers. Also, a 5% haste effect doesn't turn you into a nurse and get you 100 free hits like your making it out to be, it really only lets a survivor get 1 less loop around a pallet.
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120% movement speed? NOED speed plus bloodlust 1.
So, no safe loops even at shack. All easily mindgameable.
You guys are out of your minds with the nicest words possible.
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He can use temporary speed boost after being revealed. So survivors will think twice instead just trying to reveal him every time they got a chance.
But 120% is too much.
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the 5% increase doesn't make every loop unsafe.
either way, i think loops being safe is the issue, lol. if there's literally no risk versus a killer, and a tile is completely safe against a killer, then that's kinda stupid. giving him a 5% increase would make very safe loops require a little bit more brainpower to use properly as survivor.
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120% speed is not gonna happen ever because it's ridiculously strong. So there is no point to discuss further.
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Why not make it so when hes discovered from his stalking he gets a +5% bonus speed for 10 seconds, the bonus being active ONLY while he chases the survivor that found him. That way discovering him makes him "angry" and gives him a slightly stronger 1V1 while keeping it on check with the small duration
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It is not even close to that strong. Are you out of your mind?
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He is in line for a rework yes? Would not surprise me if they gave him the Clown rework. Change him but refuse to give him the buff he needs.
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yes there is, because you're making an argument that 120% is ridiculously strong, which is literally untrue lol.
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