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Killers are lazy nowadays
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True, and lazy Killers do use them, but they don't use those tactics properly and just lose the game. It's like Survivors shifting from looping to ShiftW, both sides are becoming more "lazy" by using tactics that are as efficient as possible
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I think there's a slight difference. Against certain Killers, holding "w" is the only tactic, because of Killers that completely counter looping, such as The Artist. You have no choice but hold "w" against her. Pyramid Head and Nemesis are 2 other Killers that it's usually better to hold "w" against. (There are lazy survivors just like their are lazy killers, of course.)
Killers have other choices luckily. There's just a lot of Killers that refuse to learn the more advanced tactics. Let's face it, mind-gaming is an extremely difficult skill to master.
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Some survivors still do it (I do when playing survivor) but others seem to do it just because they want to be rescued.
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That's not entirely true. You will have to tunnel and camp to secure kills if you're playing anything other than Nurse and maybe Blight
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You know, I used to be able to get 3-4ks playing fairly. Then they readded the MMR. I couldn't play fairly anymore. Doesn't mean I proxy camp or camp hooks. But the fact games almost always end within 5 minutes or so because I chase one survivor and by the time I down them 3 gens go by.
Should survivors only do 1 gen per hook? Do you care about getting all the gens done by the time the killer kills one person? No. So let it be. Can't cherry pick of having fun for yourself but not care about the other person having fun.
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Good question. I'm sure the reason a lot of Killers camp and tunnel are because survivors kinda deserve it.
From teabagging, baiting with the flashlight, breaking hooks and gen rushing to holding games hostage until the last second of Endgame just to be a jerk...
Bottom line: You reap what you sow.
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You don't have to at lower MMR. You do at higher MMR. You can choose how you play and MMR will adjust to it.
If you are really good at mind-gaming and managing time, you can play pretty high level games, even without Nurse and Blight. But it does take a lot of skill.
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Mindgaming doesn't work when Survivors just hold W, which is always the smart thing to do if they're playing together, which most Survivors do at higher MMR. I also can't choose where I want to be. No matter what, I'm forced to play at "high" MMR just because my Demogorgon is somewhat high, since Killers have a shared MMR stat
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Then you shouldnt be in high MMR, which honestly, I doubt a lot of you are.
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Were you by any chance the Mikaela I tunneled for 5 gens and then moried with Rancor yesterday? 🙈
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i never understood why killers care about kills in the first place, who cares if all 4 escape, i like the chases and mindgames and scares, who cares about kills
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I love reading the posts where its very obviously a butt hurt survivor main, shaming people about their MMR and strategies.
Repeat after me: You do not get to tell the other team how to play. Tunneling is a valid tactic, just like 4 man packing Dead Hard. Get over it.
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Not everyone likes to throw every game
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Wrong place to talk about this. Is site is crawling with killer mains who still give excuses to play like that. Don’t listen to them, I understand your argument and they are definitely in the wrong for that
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Maybe because they run the killer for those gens? You just dug yourself a hole my guy
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No, I was playing Leon! And it was against a Wraith, too 😛
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Because, kids & teens. Just kids & teens.
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This is why I don't get why they complain about boons, DH and stuff...killer is so easy to play, even if you don't 4k, you still might be able to pip with no problem. Solo surv on the other hand is suffering a lot by SWF's response of the dev team.
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I wonder how many people on this thread who are complaining actually play Killer.
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I've completely stopped killing survivors (barring hook miscounting accidents) because I hate gaining MMR since its such a completely miserable experience at high MMR. In all this time that I haven't been killing survivors intentionally I've learned one thing.
Survivors are the most toxic scum to exist. The only time they act humble for a second is if you completely smash them. So now I main spirit, 8 hook before a single gen is completed, and then just farm for my 29,600 points and negative MMR.
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because chasing some ######### who have 3rd person while you are limited to 1st person is not fun
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Sluzzy which perk can killers use so I can just camp and win?
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Do you really blame them? The game doesn't reward killers that play flairly aka hooking after hook.
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gee, why would I play the KILLER role and want to KILL. hmmmmm
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What do you mean? Are you avoiding killing them, more or less just farming? Or do you play to kill but don't care if you can't? Because no survivor wants to face a killer who does not want to kill anyone.
Oh and camping is not about being lazy it's just like playing defensive in football/soccer. A playstyle the viewers and the opponents might hate but you don't do it because you are lazy. You do it because you think you have a better chance of winning the game, or better chance not losing it if you feel the opponents are better than you and your offensive play (chasing) is not good enough.
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Strange to blame killers for their lazieness, when survivors recipe for the win is lazy and safe gameplay as well. Hold M1 on gens when possible, hold W prematurely if killer is switching for you, hold W more when getting a speed boost, drop pallets safely when in risk of getting downed, abuse the strongest windows and tile connections for brainless time waste if possible. If every survivor does that its a win. No need in greeding pallets and mindgaming, when you can play safe and boring way for the win.
Then why the hell it should be shameful for killers to play brainless and lazy strategies that work well?
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As a killer main there are a few times where camping is pretty valid. At end game or close to end game, sure. That particular survivor is doing an exploit, sure. That survivor is being a Chad and really pressuring you while the team is useless, also sure. But for the most part the game literally rewards killers to bounce to different targets and chase/hook them. Camping a hooked person skips the hooking part so you actually lose points.
That being said, the community needs a great deal of work. IMO everyone “could have fun” with the proper mindset and play style. If survivors are rocking all meta perks and are communicating via discord or another VC then it makes the killers really step their game up. But what’s the point in playing like an esports team if you aren’t in one? Is playing all sweaty really fun? Or is playing only to win the only way either side can have fun? I dunno I beg to differ on all that. Fun is relative and you can get enjoyment from individual moments and not the final outcome of a match.
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It's lucky we have so many people here willing to tell everyone the One True Way to play killer. Don't want people thinking they have the choice to play how they like within the game's rules or anything.
And speaking of high mmr/low mmr. Anyone else catch the thread about the newbie killer who was getting matched with 1k hour plus surv teams on her literal first day playing the game? When the survivor queue gets long enough the game still throws mmr right out the window, so good luck trying to stay low.
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So you want to dictate how others play and when they don’t conform to what you want, you feel justified (even proud about) being a toxic ass.
I’m afraid the problem here is you and all players like you.
A post like this just advertises that you lack the emotional maturity to play games with others.
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Here's the way I see the situation... in most cases the killer will have lost a gen or two by the time they get the first hook - heck, I usually lose a gen before I've even found the first survivor because they hide when I patrol and the maps are large enough that by the time I come back, the gen is done with prove
So, now there's someone on a hook, and three healthy survivors... that negates the necessity to run away and put up a boon. It forces the survivors to either let their guy die, or pool together all their second chance perks (BT, dead-hard, boons, body blocking, blah blah blah) to attempt a rescue.
If they pull it off... nice, the game goes on.
If they decide to chicken out and stay away... well, GG's I guess.
What I don't understand is why literally everything is always the killer's fault. The killer camped, the killer tunnelled, the killer did X, the killer did Y, when literally the entire progression of the game is down to the survivors (they are the ones that have to do the gens, they need to present themselves in some way to be caught - there have been games where they hide in lockers for long periods). The mindset of this community is so twisted that literally survivors can do no wrong... there is literally nothing that survivors can do that other survivors would collectively agree and say "that's bad play"... but they've somehow convinced killers that tunnelling/camping are bad and indicative of poor play.
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You need to play killer and you will understand why killers do it when I solo q as survivor and get proxied , not camped there two different things I understand why🤷🏻♂️ Often when a killer downs a survivor in one chase more likely there be 3 gens left in one chase that what I noticed from optimal survivors play 🤷🏻♂️
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Imagine just outing yourself as being terrible at the game like that
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I agree it is lazy. Camping is the first thing new killers do and is effective at killing but not in blood points. I would much rather give it my all chasing them all in turn, get brutal killer with 28-32k BP with BBQ on top and fast forward the blood web grind for my trouble.
I still 4k plenty but it is not my measure of victory.
I do understand that others do not care about BP and only consider the sound of the sacrifice the victory. It is a sweet sound.
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Imagine not having the ability to detect sarcasm and thinking somebody cares about how well I play the game.
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...OK you got me
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Tbf if I have a game where I just want to go for chases, the game ends in like 5min and survivors write then "ez gg baby killer".
So ye I switch then to a mean gameplay and 4k slug or proxy camp or tunnel and then everyones crys that the killer actually kills, its more of a double hypocriticism. Killers want to chase but you survivors dont give them the time to do it, so there is nothing else to do for us simple as that.
If you want to get chased then dont smash those gens like there is no tomorrow.
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True, thats also a weird thing, why do survivors think ppl care about how they think you played xD
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It's the only viable way to play killer nowadays, heck I'll even bring NOED every single game since there is no way I can prevent all gens from getting done if the survivors aren't just plain trolling. As long as the game remains extremely survivor sided (I'm looking at you, Circle of Healing) there's literally no point in spreading damage if survivors can heal up right away, and all it takes is a single person bringing that perk. It gets far worse once everyone has it.
Either nerf survivors or prepare for more tunneling and camping. You only have to blame yourself for ruining the game.
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You mean why do I not wanna run your 17 tile marathon full of flashlight clicking, teabagging, and pallet stuns? I have absolutely no idea. This is truly a mystery.
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This is exactly how 75% of all solo que matches end up playing out, it's demoralizing.
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I just had this happen where bubba just hook one person babysits throughout the whole game and on to the next. Don’t killers get points other ways as well like damaging gens putting out totems etc? Isn’t that boring to just never have to move and basically put your controller or mouse down and stare every time someone is on the hook I mean mind as well.
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Maybe because the game shits on you for that with both less BP and a you lose moniker at the ending. As well as since it's dbd of course survivors have to rub salt in the wounds to act like people who should be banned from online games.
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Imagine actually chasing survivors when that's the most time inefficient way to play.
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Because current DBD promotes those playstyles.
1. Right now if you do it properly, it's one of the most efficient playstyles to get kills with. That's why you see it a lot in tournaments too. Because even if they chase and apply gen pressure and do everything right that they could possibly do in a match, they could still lose with all 4 people escaping. With camping/tunneling, it takes a lot less effort and has a lot higher chance of securing 1-2 kills.
2. SBMM and the community created this false ideal that MMR matters. And since MMR is based on kills, they're doing everything they can to secure those kills. Yeah some matches it doesn't payoff, but the majority of the time it leads to survivors being too altruistic and you end up with actually 3-4 kills.
3. Some people get upset or frustrated. They load up in DBD to just chill on some killer and play fairly. Then their first 2-3 matches are nothing but them getting full swf squads that are only out to bully the killer. So after 2-3 matches of nothing but chain flashlight blinds, body blocking with boil over, and constant head on into flash bang stuns, they're frustrated. So they figure if everyone else is going to play that way, then so are they. They'll slap on their sweatiest build and start camping and tunneling to ruin someone's game like theirs was. And unfortunately the next match they happen to get the survivors who are just wanting to play the game normally and have fun. And it's just a repeating cycle of that.
So it's actually a multitude of people's faults. It's behaviors, the community's, the survivors who are out to bully simply cause they're bored with the game, the killer's fault for letting people get to them.
I actually like the campers and tunnelers and bully squads. Because if killers feel the need to do that, maybe there's an imbalance of power in the game, something Behavior needs to look at to fix.
If survivors feel the need to do everything they can to bully killers or mess with other survivors because they're bored with the same old gameplay, maybe Behavior needs to add more objectives or a new game mode.
The community as a whole is mad at the wrong people. Stop pointing fingers at the opposing side and start pointing them at the root of the problems.
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Yup and they're playing themselves by doing so, forcing higher MMR to go against better survivors. Not only that, but they're forcing lower MMR on survivors who should have high MMR. I play solos and my MMR is super low because I escape...on a good day, 1/15 games maybe...if even that, then get put against mid-low MMR killers who literally cannot touch me. MMR goes back up, get tunneled and camped again...MMR goes back down...steam roll the killer again....wash, rinse, repeat.
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Its the way the games meant to be played. Boosts MMR either way. Just ask Patrick.
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So what? As soon as you sacrifice someone, you become mr spread hooks evenly? At that point, just tunnel everyone out
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Actually yes, because that way I do get more pips.
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Great, so that's BS for that one survivor
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Sacrifice for an actually fun game, kekw
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