Why does nobody want to nerf Nurse?
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do u even play nurse? or are u just saying shes op cuz u went against one. she is the hardest killer to use, if you master her, you deserve your 4k
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Yeah I agree, I am biased as I am a Nurse main but I did my hard slog of being bullied and humiliated over and over to get decent with her. Most people give up as survivors love to humiliate killers when they are learning and losing constantly can be very disheartening. Then you reach a point where you start to land a lot of your blinks and win matches and you get some hope... at which point you start to face survivors who are actually good and you start to feel like a noob again as good survivors can give you a real rough time.
I respect a good Nurse as I know they had to go through a lot of crap and humiliation to push through and get decent with her
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was in more of her Ultra rares / Very rares... they like.. More worse than blindness..
And that's STILL a thing,
Edit: to rework / addon pass those stupid addons..
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A killer than many would consider the best while having plenty of counterplay and is also fun to verse?
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"plenty of counterplay" ok bro.
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You are definitly not a DBD veteran... I agree she's still strong in the right hands, but she's been changed so much since her release, perhaps the MOST changed killer of them all, atleast the most nerfed.
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Despite being the strongest killer in the game, Nurse can be consistently beaten by survivors of a similar skill level, and considering how difficult it is to play her at said level I don’t see how it can be argued that she’s overpowered.
When she’s good it can feel unfair as there’s little counterplay other than trying to go down in a favourable position, but you can still win regardless, and if you nerf Nurse you essentially kill her at lower levels due to her initial learning curve.
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The Internet’s a world of knowledge at your fingertips. Go look up guides on playing against Nurse.
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Yes. Plenty of counterplay. Just because it eludes you does not mean it isn't there.
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Do you read every second topic title? Maybe its just me, but survivors seems to be quite active regarding the nerfs
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so let me get this right? you want to nerf the 1 killer who can go against top tier players and get a reliable 2k but only if you have a good amount of skill with that killer???? how cushy do you want survivor to be?
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No heS right. Tactically you don't have a say so. The entire chase is dependent on her skill level,not the survivors.
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You and him are objectively incorrect. Chases against Nurse are the killer's mindgames versus yours. Can you fake the better read? Can you make the better read? The better player comes out benefitting. You read it right and you evade the hit. You read it wrong and you get hit. You fake it right and you evade the hit. You fake it wrong and you get hit. If you were correct, she would not consistently 2K average against equally good survivors that know how to play versus Nurse.
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It doesn't matter if you fake right because she gets a second tele and a good nurse will always hit that one.
The gen average represents new people trying to learn her. If only vets played her she would have the highest ratio by far.
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Oh sure, nerf the killer with the lowest kill rate.
If you don't know how to handle a Nurse, that's on you. Maybe try to play her a get consistent wins and then see how you get your ass handed to you by good survivors. Then try to do the same.
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This is objectively incorrect. Good survivors that know how to play against Nurse playing against an equally good Nurse can consistently 2-man escape on average.
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Because Nurse doesn't need to be nerfed any further. Simple as that.
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There's nothing objective about that assumption and it disregards people who don't regularly play Nurse and must learn against a high skill curve.
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Nurse should be nerfed over Pig. Kill rates are irrelevant. Nerfing the worst killer while ignoring the consensus strongest killer is nonsensical. I do not believe either needs nerfed, but Nurse should have been targeted over trash like Ghostface or Deathslinger, that is for damned sure.
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You are free to give conclusive evidence that Nurse overperforms against players of an equal skill level that know how to play versus Nurse.
Also, that is not an argument. People that don't know how to play against Nurse will do bad against Nurse. That is not a problem, that's a given. If one side doesn't know how to play against the other, that is THEIR problem. They can learn.
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It was supporting evidence. In order for it not to be true, everyone playing Nurse would have to be a vet and no people new to her will be playing but that's self evidently wrong. You don't need statistics to verify that there are new people to Nurse that occasionally try her out or try her again but still at the rookie level.
In order to provide statistics on veteran Nurse's kill ratios we could only do two things: 1) hope Behaviour keeps statistics on hours of killer and their ratios in matches that do not have DCs and last longer than six minutes, which they have not done, or 2) release a poll. Polls on forums aren't scientific though, so if either of us got the answer we wanted the other could just plead "meme voting" and the results have to be thrown out. In other words, there's no way for either of us to empirically prove we're correct.
Having said all that, I think it's obvious that the numbers you're using are blatantly wrong since they don't take into account skill level of competitive environment. Simple logic dictates that a Nurse's first blink can be juked, and I personally see that in practice, but the second juke is entirely in the hands of the Nurse with no skill set (other than Dead Hard) able to flip that situation. This is counting only towards getting the survivor slugged- not towards flipping the scenario such as a Decisive Strike proc.
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idk, her recharge addons can recieve somewhat of a nerf, heck, I actually would love Nurse to have more creative playstyles like Spasmodic Breath, where survivors basically are forced to figure out what addons you run before they can counterplay.
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A really good Nurse is oppressive AF, and absolutely demoralizing to go against.
That said, she should NOT be nerfed because the amount of playtime it takes to get to that point is relatively huge. Great nurse players have earned being oppressive, and for every great Nurse, there are 10 who suck out loud. If her skill floor wasn't so high, I could see a nerf being warranted, but it is, so it isn't.
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Actually, competitive environment Nurses average 2K against equally skilled opponents. So no. What you asset without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Without fail, Nurse at high level consistently averages to 2K against equally high level opponents. Which is proven through VODs and tournament result recordings freely available on the internet.
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