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SWF groups hurt Dead by Daylight more than they help
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Obviously SWF is the C Word of this Game.
DBD wasnt ready for It when they decided to release It and is not ready atm.
Every multiplayer Game that I know that gives the posibility to play with Friends as a team is balanced around that option, except DBD.
Comms are super strong, even with chilling intentions stills strong.
Bully squads are omega toxic and makes Killers feel miserable.
After this new patch, the Killers drop Will be massive if they don't do something with SWF, Mark my words.
Separate queues, I do not care if that hurts the game, survivors are not the only persons playing this Game and shouldnt be the only ones with the power to choose with Who they want to play, Killers deserve that right too.
Without Killers DBD is also Dead, and this Game is condemned after Next update if they do not fix SWF abuse.
Let US know if we are facing SWF, we deserve the right to choose our games, if they It eternal queues, is not our problem, they decide to play as team, we decide to not play against them, easy and balanced.
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This is because BHVR designed this game for solo queue. All design and balance is designed for this. When the swf starts playing all 4 players know who the killer is, even if the killer is stealth, all 4 players know where they broke the pallet, all 4 players know where the totem was cleared, if the survivor runs from the killer he is told where to run this list can be continued endlessly. At the same time, the BHVR does not understand that the non survivors are too strong, and the swf is too strong. Giving a penalty for playing with friends is normal practice and applies in other games.
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"Unfortunately, in my 7500 hours, I have never come across a SWF group that plays normally. Either the killers get annoyed or when you beat them it gets toxic in chat."
Atleast to me that statement sounds like you think that all swfs are bully squads in one way or another.
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the killer should know when some players are in a swf, problem solved, they dont because swf squads to like to mock the killer are most of the playerbase, salty and entitled to 3 man escape every game while being carried by perks and braindead loops. If killers were let known the players are in a swf, they would not play against swfs, which would make swfs stop and be mad, AKA no buying, snce swfs are the majority, but they deserve it.
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There is a difference between saying and thinking
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No, because then most of the killers would avoid the lobby.
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as they should
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Far too much of the surv playerbase are in some kind of SWF. Separating the queues would mean killers would be waiting for ages for a match, and the SWFs would never even get one at all.
No way the devs do this and badly hurt both roles like that. They've consistently resisted changes that hurt queue times over the years.
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At that point, they should ask themselves why is this happening and work to fix It, both sides Will win.
Survivors Will play as SWF if they want and killers Will face that SWF if they want, seems fair to me.
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So you say that all survs are bully squads but you think otherwise?
Or how am I supposed to interpret this vague statement?
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To make it clear once again. I never said anything about bullysquads on this tread. For such questions you should contact @Mister_xD
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Yeah, but you said there are no swfs that play normally, they either annoy or insult the killer, so you did not use the word "bully squad" but you implied it.
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I also did not write that there is no SWF that plays normally....jeeez
This is what i wrote: Unfortunately, in my 7500 hours, I have never come across a SWF group that plays normally
and that is far from the same
But back to the topic: What could be done better? Both sides are struggling with problems.
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Do people still actually think SWF should be removed 💀
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I certainly don't. I just think they should have it a little harder. Also no more
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I know you don’t but many others are implying they do
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is that why you do it so often?
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It means there is a problem and a serious problem. killers don't want to play against swf. so it is necessary to strengthen the solo queue and weaken the swf. everyone should be on an equal footing.
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If we're truly after equal footing, this game would be much better optimized for my dang Xbox.! ;)
Here's the problem as I see it: they will not separate the queues; they will not impose strange tourney rules on SWF, nor debuff them with penalties to repair etc: they won't show SWF in the lobby to prevent further dodging than already occurs; and no in-game chat either.
If we accept all that won't happen, what's left to be done? The devs seem to be aiming to raise the lot of solo survs closer to SWF level of possible coordination and info.
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