Feedback on the New Legacy P3 Reward
The legacy P3 reward update is a huge improvement and a nice start.
I think I speak for everyone when I say that this new scratch effect is 100x better than the old one. I know you're likely sick of hearing me by now since I've discussed this a lot on the forums, but it's something some of us very much care about.
Despite this update being a huge improvement, the change has completely avoided the main issue. That being that the reward is personal, and thus not visible to anyone else. This means the current reward essentially defeats its own purpose. We cannot brag to ourselves.
Legacy rewards exist for the sole purpose of bragging rights and exclusivity. This was even confirmed in a recent dev stream where they promised the reward would provide us "bragging rights". This got people excited (including myself) and led us to grind a lot recently to make a final push for some more P3 in the hopes of getting this valuable reward.
In order to obtain this reward, we had to give up millions of bloodpoints, thousands of addons, many perks and even potentially old event items. The sacrifice people went through for this reward was enormous. This then is why the reward being personal is so disappointing. We worked so much for a reward nobody else can see, which equates to a pat on the back from ourselves. This is meaningless and self-defeating.
I think the community has often not helped on this issue in regards to feedback. While I and many others think a new legacy cosmetic would have been the most appropriate reward, we are very much aware that (for whatever reason) this is not possible. I, for one, have made peace with that and have no issue with it at all.
The way the community has not helped is that people are still continually asking for a new legacy skin when it has been stated it isn't happening. Those people are positing a frustrating distraction from the issue at hand - that is, what should be done instead.
What should be done instead has been discussed at length. You have already made a fantastic start by making the portraits look so much better. However, this issue of "bragging rights" should also be addressed. Many people (including myself) have made suggestions for what could be done about this.
It only needs to be something very small, but anything at all would be greatly appreciated. This could be a small addition to the prestige medals to signify the legacy P3 status, or some other small change that can be seen in the post-game lobby. That is it. That is all it would take to satisfy this unfulfilled promise.
Of course, things like this take time to implement, so we absolutely would not expect this to come with next week's 6.1.0 update. However, simply knowing this is being implemented further down the line would work wonders with satisfying those who care about this deeply. I know I for one care very much for this sort of thing. Think whatever you like of us, but the fact we care about it is just how things are.
It would be greatly appreciated by many of us if you were to listen to this feedback. If you look through my previous posts, you could even see my own suggestions for this post-game legacy indicator if you're looking for inspiration.
Thanks for an otherwise excellent update - addressing this issue would put a cherry on top for sure!
Kind regards,
Nito
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"However, this issue of "bragging rights" should also be addressed. "
That's the point !
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Spent years p3ing characters, all my killers are p3 and nearly half of my survivors are as well and I agree with you, I did it in hopes that if there was ever again something similiar to legacy arriving I would be able to obtain it. Because legacy skins have always been my favorite as a console player dbd wasn't even released to console until much too late so I was hoping for when the devs looked at the grind again. Guess its bragging rights if you were a streamer or a youtuber, but its a cool effect. :c
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Well, if posts like this get enough attention, perhaps the devs would consider listening to us. I very much hope they do, because for me it matters more than anything else in the update.
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very well put together, this is exactly my issue with them
anything that someone else can see, even a small checkmark next to my name would be better than personal portraits
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Yeah, something as small as that is all it would take.
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Yeah, they haven't addressed it at all, despite promising it to us before they showed us the reward...
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I agree entirely. Thank you for voicing the disappointment a lot of players are feeling right now.
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You're welcome. I just wish more people would bring attention to it. The more people voice their dissatisfaction, the more likely a response is. Especially if a content creator makes a point of it.
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Same here
I don't understand why many people suddenly settled for the better looking underwhelming reward.
Yes, it looks better, no, it's not the proper "reward" that was promised
(BTW I think PauleEsther mentioned this in one of his videos, and he's a Fog Whisperer)
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I never saw Paulie comment on it, and definitely don't remember him ever making a point of it being a problem. Do you know which video this was?
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https://youtu.be/EU6ELOJSJII?t=1549
He mentioned it first when the PTB dropped (you can see in the comments that he actually expresses a couple of thoughts about it as well)
https://youtu.be/APhw3E49Vz4?t=974
Then a couple of days ago he read the July update and asked again whether other people could see it or not, and still in the comments makes more remarks
Of course, he doesn't really makes a point of it being a problem, but the fact that even he looks disappointed by it tells a lot about the "reward"
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Yes, I do wish he had made more of a point of it. Most seem to just be brushing it under the rug as another under-delivery.
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Yeah, that's what more frustrating about this
The fact that they find acceptable to "ignore" all the effort you could have made in addition to get to P3 doesn't sit right with me either.
If people are gaining prestige levels based on the number of perk tiers they have unlocked, why people who got to P3 before getting all the perks aren't getting the same treatment? It seems like the more you were dedicated to DBD, the less your efforts are valued.
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I agree with you.
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I pushed hard to get all my survivors to P3 with all perks - all I got was starting at Prestige 9 to show for it. Kinda bummed TBH - was expecting something more (cosmetic??). Balancing has been pretty good otherwise - killers still camp and tunnel (those with no skill) but they won't introduce any real point penalty to stop it.
Good comment OP
Slaymore
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All we need is something that can be seen by other players in the post-game. We don't need a cosmetic.
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Well a legendary cosmetic was the original reward for those that prestiged before the first major change - so it has some precedence to it. I don't care either way - just disappointed.
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With every new update on this patch, like the one an hour ago, my heart continues to drop. They are still not addressing this at all and continually talk about this character portrait thing like it's enough. I'm very saddened...
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To sum it up, are bloody portraits ultimately visible? How?
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No, the portraits are not visible to anyone else. They're a pointless reward, which is what we're upset about.
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@mod @dev @projectmanager @communitymanager @BHVR
Some news about our "bragging rights" ? é_è
Ok it won't we a skin, it won't a cosmetic. But there still no bragging ...
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Nah, they won't even aknowledge the whole situation, why would they care about the people who invested more time in the game?
Shameful
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