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Killers balance: perks
Hello everyone,
First of all, thank you to the developers for making a great game. I have had a lot of fun playing it as many do as well.
I have played DBD for quite some time now and looked both at survivors and killers. I have read about the past patch notes, where DBD came from and where it's going, which is the only reason why I'm writing now.
I think we can all agree on the fact that it's really hard to find a balance between Killers and survivors. Both whant and need a challenging game, which is where my concern goes.
DBD is supposed to be a hide and seek game but lately I found it to be "let's try not to be killed in the first minute and try to make much bloodpoints before the killers catches me". Why is that?
Most killers, on PS4, are known to be campers and to focus. It kills the game and the fun. For real, it's insane: just look at the different twitch streamers. So I decided to play to offer for a few people a too rare nice game and actually have fun. I'm a very average player, and yet with only three perks I'm unstoppable. There is absolutely no skill involved. There is no more hide & seek dimension, because I can see them all the time.
I'm referring to the barbecue and chilli, nurse calling, bitter murmur, thrill of the hunt and Hex Ruins. Whatever they do I see them and they can't do anything.
So here is how I play it: I do not focus nor camp. I have played too many games against such killers who disgusted me. All the people I have played against enjoyed my way of playing and were thankful for having someone that tried not to kill the fun and yet, I killed all of them.
What I'm trying to say is that the balance is broken. I, an average player, shouldn't find it so easy to play killer because I have no skills at all.
So maybe there is something we, as a community, could do. Either we stop playing with all these perks at the same time or the developers could set something that would unable players to play with all them. It could be something like: if you use that perk then you can't choose this one.
Little by little survivors have been taken away their possibilities to survive. I fear the most with the upcoming killer, who looks very exciting from the Killers' point of view, but as a survivor it's dreadful. This killer can avoid pallets which are the last thing survivors could use against killers.
I also don't think it's a problem of survival's skill, not using the lamp enough or whatever. We do have a real issue of camping and focussing. Plus, survivors can't do 360 anymore on consoles. They just can't escape.
I sincerely thank you for reading me.
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DBD is not a hide and seek game.
A nascar racing sim with some cyber-bullying aspects would have been a better description.
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@Nedril23 said:
Hello everyone,
First of all, thank you to the developers for making a great game. I have had a lot of fun playing it as many do as well.
I have played DBD for quite some time now and looked both at survivors and killers. I have read about the past patch notes, where DBD came from and where it's going, which is the only reason why I'm writing now.I think we can all agree on the fact that it's really hard to find a balance between Killers and survivors. Both whant and need a challenging game, which is where my concern goes.
DBD is supposed to be a hide and seek game but lately I found it to be "let's try not to be killed in the first minute and try to make much bloodpoints before the killers catches me". Why is that?
Most killers, on PS4, are known to be campers and to focus. It kills the game and the fun. For real, it's insane: just look at the different twitch streamers. So I decided to play to offer for a few people a too rare nice game and actually have fun. I'm a very average player, and yet with only three perks I'm unstoppable. There is absolutely no skill involved. There is no more hide & seek dimension, because I can see them all the time.
I'm referring to the barbecue and chilli, nurse calling, bitter murmur, thrill of the hunt and Hex Ruins. Whatever they do I see them and they can't do anything.
So here is how I play it: I do not focus nor camp. I have played too many games against such killers who disgusted me. All the people I have played against enjoyed my way of playing and were thankful for having someone that tried not to kill the fun and yet, I killed all of them.
What I'm trying to say is that the balance is broken. I, an average player, shouldn't find it so easy to play killer because I have no skills at all.
So maybe there is something we, as a community, could do. Either we stop playing with all these perks at the same time or the developers could set something that would unable players to play with all them. It could be something like: if you use that perk then you can't choose this one.
Little by little survivors have been taken away their possibilities to survive. I fear the most with the upcoming killer, who looks very exciting from the Killers' point of view, but as a survivor it's dreadful. This killer can avoid pallets which are the last thing survivors could use against killers.I also don't think it's a problem of survival's skill, not using the lamp enough or whatever. We do have a real issue of camping and focussing. Plus, survivors can't do 360 anymore on consoles. They just can't escape.
I sincerely thank you for reading me.
What ranks are we talking about here?
And are you playing PS4 only?
It surely sounds like a rank 20 gameexperience.4 -
I am playing PS4 only. As for the ranks, I am rank 2 as survivor and rank 10 as a killer (but i have only played killer for a week or two).
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@Nedril23 said:
I am playing PS4 only. As for the ranks, I am rank 2 as survivor and rank 10 as a killer (but i have only played killer for a week or two).I do not know how the PS4 playerbase is, but if they still suck at rank 2, they must be terrible.^^
But you can't balance a game around bad player.
Good player will totally wreck killer.
While killer on low rank is a walk in the park. You basically play noobstomper ranks with your killer.
After you pass the R10 mark things start getting harder for killer (at least thats the usual benchmark on PC).
Also your ranks clearly show that you can only see one side of the gamebalance, since you are a survivor main.1 -
PS4 survivors are better than PC survivors, but pc killers are better than ps4 killersWolf74 said:@Nedril23 said:
I am playing PS4 only. As for the ranks, I am rank 2 as survivor and rank 10 as a killer (but i have only played killer for a week or two).I do not know how the PS4 playerbase is, but if they still suck at rank 2, they must be terrible.^^
But you can't balance a game around bad player.
Good player will totally wreck killer.
While killer on low rank is a walk in the park. You basically play noobstomper ranks with your killer.
After you pass the R10 mark things start getting harder for killer (at least thats the usual benchmark on PC).
Also your ranks clearly show that you can only see one side of the gamebalance, since you are a survivor main.0 -
I play exactly like you, no camping no tunneling. Not just because I hate that but because its easier for me to get those 3-4k. The thing is you are kinda wrong about survivors being weak. I've had matches from which I've come out shaking because of SWF. Survivors are not really weak, its just that solo players dont have the comunication a good SWF team has.Nedril23 said:Hello everyone,
First of all, thank you to the developers for making a great game. I have had a lot of fun playing it as many do as well.
I have played DBD for quite some time now and looked both at survivors and killers. I have read about the past patch notes, where DBD came from and where it's going, which is the only reason why I'm writing now.I think we can all agree on the fact that it's really hard to find a balance between Killers and survivors. Both whant and need a challenging game, which is where my concern goes.
DBD is supposed to be a hide and seek game but lately I found it to be "let's try not to be killed in the first minute and try to make much bloodpoints before the killers catches me". Why is that?
Most killers, on PS4, are known to be campers and to focus. It kills the game and the fun. For real, it's insane: just look at the different twitch streamers. So I decided to play to offer for a few people a too rare nice game and actually have fun. I'm a very average player, and yet with only three perks I'm unstoppable. There is absolutely no skill involved. There is no more hide & seek dimension, because I can see them all the time.
I'm referring to the barbecue and chilli, nurse calling, bitter murmur, thrill of the hunt and Hex Ruins. Whatever they do I see them and they can't do anything.
So here is how I play it: I do not focus nor camp. I have played too many games against such killers who disgusted me. All the people I have played against enjoyed my way of playing and were thankful for having someone that tried not to kill the fun and yet, I killed all of them.
What I'm trying to say is that the balance is broken. I, an average player, shouldn't find it so easy to play killer because I have no skills at all.
So maybe there is something we, as a community, could do. Either we stop playing with all these perks at the same time or the developers could set something that would unable players to play with all them. It could be something like: if you use that perk then you can't choose this one.
Little by little survivors have been taken away their possibilities to survive. I fear the most with the upcoming killer, who looks very exciting from the Killers' point of view, but as a survivor it's dreadful. This killer can avoid pallets which are the last thing survivors could use against killers.I also don't think it's a problem of survival's skill, not using the lamp enough or whatever. We do have a real issue of camping and focussing. Plus, survivors can't do 360 anymore on consoles. They just can't escape.
I sincerely thank you for reading me.
What Im trying to say here is that maybe you've been lucky by not getting a full lobby of SWF. I dont really have a problem with those anymore cuz I have most of my killers with broken builds and add-ons prepared for those kind of situations, but playing against them without being prepared can be pretty hard. Randoms can be boring sometimes tbh.0 -
as a former but skilled rank1/rank2 killer i say this to u; 360 is the cancer meta on the PS4! each time i played a rank1/rank2 match i had either 2 using 360's or everyone did. so far as i see PC streams it's mostly one or two survivors utilizing 360's out of few games and that's simply due the controller handling wich makes 360's easier as well the lower framerate on consoles wich add to the 360 BS meta i'm constantly facing. i said i was a former rank1/rank2 killer cuz i deranked cuz of that; not due genrush or SWFs, these are things devs need to balance out but 360's are a exploit of hitting mechanics wich is equal to a cheat in my perspective and i not play with cheaters.
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