Blaming DC'ers is stupid
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OK. You talk about enjoyment. There are plenty of people who enjoy the game who's experiences are being ruined because of people dc'ing. What about them?
If you are so annoyed with the game that you can't finish a match then don't play.
What is happening now is basically like children throwing a temper tantrum in the middle of a store because their parents won't buy them candy. Meanwhile their siblings are embarrassed as hell.
The selfishness of the people who DC is not understandable. Their opinions are but not the actions.
I hate New Freddy but I don't DC against him, nor do I start a match with him and then DC because he isn't the Freddy I like.
Play or don't play. Don't ruin everything for everyone because you don't like something. Grow up. This is an adult game.
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Devs should close the gap as much between SWF & SoloQ.
Kindred as basekit would be a good start and will not affect the tryhard SWF in any way (Since they are usually coordinated and probably on voice comms).
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You're not understanding me. Obviously it sucks when it suddenly becomes a 3 v 1, but how on earth can you blame the DC'er when so many changes have been made to the game which make it intolerable?
You can only blame the individuals doing it so much before it clearly becomes a problem with the game itself. That's just logic
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The attitude of you people is downright disgusting. For the fifty millionth time, I DONT CARE ABOUT PERKS. You should rely on perks to counter fundamental problems with the base game, namely, generator speed which has been extended for absolutely no good reason.
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What are you even on about? I don't care about any of that. I care that the game has been made more boring by increasing gen times. At least all of that killer stuff sounds fun. It's not staring at a progression bar for one minute and 30 seconds straight. Jesus, it's all just about winning and losing to you people. I'm talking about what makes a game fun!
It does not make a game fun to stare at a progression bar for a minute and a half! What don't you people understand about that!? You're all just obsessed with wins and losses
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Because that person made the choice to DC if they know that there is problems with the game not making it fun to play or major bugs then they shouldn't play the game till those problems are fixed, soon as they hit the ready button they know all the problems the game might have, not being fun and maybe getting a killer they don't like and they are accepting all of that by hitting ready. If they don't like that stuff don't hit that button then DC because a killer downed you first and you wanted to cry and DC, would say the same thing if a killer DC because the first 2 gens pop to fast that its ok and its a problem with the game?
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A killer DC'ing doesn't ruin the game. You just start a new one no problem
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The killer ruined the game for the other 4 players by DC they all could of lost BPS and a good item because the killer DC why are you trying so hard to defend people that DC.
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Again, you are not understanding me. I agree that all that stuff is bad. I just think its downright stupid to look at the increase of DC'ing that's happening and blame the people doing it rather than the game itself for having made dumb changes, like increase generator times.
And again, it's not all about winning and losing. It's about having fun or not having fun. It is not fun to stare at a progression bar of a generator, and there was absolutely no reason to increase the amount of time you need to do it. If people aren't having fun, of course there are going to be more DC's
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And when was the last time survivors thought about the killer and how much fun they are having each match a lot less then killers do thinking about survivors.
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Obviously not as much as when a survivor DC's. And if there was a sudden influx of killers DC'ing coincidentally at the same time as a major update dropped which made the update unfair for killers, then sure I would still blame the game
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Can you honestly tell me there is a task as mundane as repairing generators that the killers do? There simply isn't. Repairing generators is hands down the most boring part of the game, whether on the killer side or the survivor side. I really beg you to answer me whether you can give me a comparison of another more tedious task
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Survivors DC just because the game got a bit harder is no excuse to DC, do you remember the breakdown bug that happened did you see killers DC like you did after the last major update, not only did survivors abuse the bug but killers kept playing even though it was a game breaking bug they didn't just DC like survivors.
So explain that why 1 side was able to keep playing even though there was a game breaking bug but the other side DC cause the game got a bit harder.
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Which still gives no reason to DC survivors know repairing gens is the main part of the game for them if they don't then this isn't the game for them and one could say playing trapper is just as bad always having to pick up traps to use them trust me that gets old very quick but they don't let him start with them all you have to travel the map to get them.
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I don't know if your directing your question at me, but I don't DC, which you would know if you read what I wrote.
Of the people that I've asked why they DC'ed or killed themselves on hook, it was because they said the game was unfair. I agree with that. The game is now unfair.
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It obviously is an excuse for survivors to DC, because they are doing it and saying that this is the reason they are doing it. Either you can figure out how to solve those issues or just blame the survivors. I don't see how you will fix the issues by blaming the survivors.
I don't know anything about this breakdown bug, so can't respond
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Really? You think setting traps is comparable? No. At least those trap people. Gens do nothing.
And yes, I would argue it obviously does give them a reason to DC. If a game has become not fun enough for survivors, there is obviously a higher risk they will DC. Either you can work to make the game more fun (again, this doesn't necesarilly mean them winning a game) or you can just blame the symptom rather than the cause of the problem
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"This is an adult game" Not at all, a lot of children play this game especially on console
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If you feel the game is currently unfun and most of your matches are boring or unfair, don't play. Killer queue times go up, player base shrinks, and we can all lay that at BHVR's feet.
If you feel the above but keep playing and continuously DC or suicide on hook, ruining the game and making it worse for everyone who is still wanting to play, yes you deserve all the blame for that.
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It was extending for a good reason. Gens were getting done to quickly. You're the one with a disgusting attitude, it's obvious you're complaining because you can't bully killer is chase as well anymore. Instead of doing your actual objective, you want to have your little side fun doing whatever you damn well please, and still winning.
Your entitlement is off the charts. We get it, you're an angry bully player.
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I can blame them for actively ruining the game for everyone else involved.
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True but it's rated m for mature is it not?
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Also, the devs chose to make changes they thought would help the game in the long run. It's really too early to tell if they were successful.
Dc'ers are purposely ruining the game for others out of spite. See the difference?
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The breakdown bug happened last year i think if you had the perk equipped instead of breaking the hook and it coming back after 3 min i think they were gone for the rest of the match so if you doubled hook everyone then you would be down 8 hooks, survivors abused that perk but killers didn't DC over it they kept playing the match till the end and if needed they let the survivors bleed out, So not only a game breaking bug but one that made matches very boring and not any fun for the killer.
So survivors DC because the game got a bit harder but not game breaking, still able to escape and still can loop the killer sorry but there is no good reason for survivors to DC they are just not used to being the power role which is meant to be the killer the days of any one wanting to bully the killer are gone, if they can't handle this then they need to move on to a more easy game and not have people like you defending people that DC for no good reason.
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A lot of killers are still slugging at 5 gens, camping, tunneling. The game is very rigged against survivors at the moment due to so many survivor nerfs, hence the dissatisfaction.
The game should be fair and balanced, not be a power fantasy for a killer.
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I will say survivors will make a bigger impact on the game if they don't play at all. The devs have actually admitted they don't count DC'ing in their stats which is absurd because that is the greatest indicator of a problem.
As long as survivors continue to play, the game will continue to get worse and worse.
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games like this a asymmetric type i.e 1v4 or 1v8 the 1 is meant to be a bit stronger then the 4 to give them a chance as the 4 have more perks and items to help them to win plus teammates if your injured they can heal you a killer has no help they don't have someone come hook a survivor for them.
If you think this game as bad go play F13th game and see what it like when you die in the first 30sec to a 1min and thats it you don't come back your dead, this game you have 3 hook stages, perks to help you and items.
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The cause? The cause is that DC penalties aren't harsh enough and the downside of throwing is minimal.
Once BHVR fixes that, these kids will have to deal with it or stop playing.
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It doesn't make sense to blame people for not doing generators when generator time has increased. It doesn't make sense to blame solo queue teammates when survivor perks have been nerfed. It doesn't make sense to blame people for quitting when the game has become completely unplayable and not fun at all for them.It does make sense. You know that gen times have increased thus by clicking 'Find match' you're doing it knowingly and meaning that you want to play the game regardless of that. The same goes for the perks people used to use, nerfed or not. If you don't like it, don't play the game. Don't ruin it for 4 others that DO want to play the game, despite w/e issues anyone might have with w/e aspect of the game.
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We are not focused on loss and win. We are telling you that you and all the DCing children overreact a hella lot.
Also "all of that killer stuff sounds fun" tells me that you never played killer and even less on a decent level. So maybe try to see the world from all sides and accept that killer got a little room to breathe and survivor got just a little bit harder, not unplayable.
And if you "don't care about any of that" from the other side don't expect any sympathy for your pleas.
And finally again, DCing is a ######### move no matter what (except for real life problems).
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Closing this up here; as this conversation is quickly going around in circles and comments made by the OP to those responding.
Please remember the encouragement, endorsement, or admission to Unsportsmanlike Conduct (i.e. DCing) is against our Forum Rules. And while comments did not fully tread into this territory, its probably a good moment to bring it up as a note. While I understand some changed elements feel "unfun" to many, when you ready up to play, as Killer or as Survivor you are agreeing to play the match to the best of your ability, and DCing should only be reserved for worst-case scenarios (i.e. IRL emergency, game-breaking bugs or issues that you literally are unable to play the game).
As with any changes made in the PTB and live game such as perks and gen speeds, it is monitored by the Team, and community feedback is collected and noted.
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