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this game has become way too hard for new survivors

Toaster427
Toaster427 Member Posts: 120
in Feedback and Suggestions

I can't get any of my friends to play longer than 2 days before they just uninstall.

you've nerfed the escape rates to the point that it doesn't even require skill at all to play as a killer. escapes are incredibly rare.

And with as many killers in the game, playing as survivor now takes a month of research to learn what each killer does and how to counter each individual scenario based on their unique power. this was manageable back in the day, but now there are so many and each one is incredibly complex to learn. I remember what the last great dev this game had (McLean) said a during one of his streams shortly before he retired. he talked about how he was always against overcomplicating killers, if the killer power required more than a paragraph to explain then all that does is confused both sides, survivors already have to learn so much about the game, it's just bad practice to make it even worse....looks like after he left the company you guys just completely lost sight of that.

the majority of your players play survivor, and it just baffles me that BHVR craps on them the hardest. This game will die with only it's most hardcore players left playing, the learning curve is insane and it doesn't cater or attract new players at all. playing with friends is a major reason I even play this game, and a big majority of your playerbase also only plays because of this. If I can't get my friends to even stick around on the game for more than 2 days then this game has lost it's purpose all together.

Comments

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,566

    How many friends did play???

    If there were 4-5 then you can go into KYF and practice both Killer and Survivor against the Killer

    But alas... sorry that the game doesn't do much to teach players how to play the game... other then holding a button

  • JustAnotherNewbie
    JustAnotherNewbie Member Posts: 1,941

    I do agree that it requires a lot more knowledge on the side of survivors when you begin playing and even then it requires communication to advance (which does not exist outside of SWF), but I would argue making killers more complicated and more mechanically demanding perhaps is good for the game and for players who like a challenge. It's good both survivors and killer. For survivor it's good because if a killer is hard to understand and play, it means the killer can make more mistakes and for killer it's good because he will feel more rewarded and usually with a steep learning curve comes the ability to affect more stuff in the game. So higher risk higher reward.

  • Cemmy
    Cemmy Member Posts: 5

    I'm a new player myself (just over a month playing now). I don't understand everything and do have some struggles and questions, my friends have taken me into customs to teach me stuff and explain things in watered down terms to help me understand. They played customs with me as killer and talked me through it.

    I think part of the onus of old players bringing friends into this game is giving them a bit of hand holding and not just hauling them into an mmr with sweaty killers.

    That being said, I'm not sure I would have ever looked into playing this if he hadn't been bought for me as a gift and I definitely didnt want to play alone for a couple of weeks without my emotional support teams. The idea of learning this on my own was way too intimidating. I'm not even sure how to fix this sort of issue so new players will come since if they grouped low level accounts together, it's like penning the sheep for someone to come smurf and destroy the poor baby survivors and killers.

  • Aceislife
    Aceislife Member Posts: 450

    Every update for a long time they've done, the changes to the game. They wanted to make the game more casual-friendly, not the opposite.

    (Not the right call imo)

  • solarjin1
    solarjin1 Member Posts: 2,223

    The games been around forever and they still haven't made a practice mode for survivors. Survivors must go into regular matches and get stomp into they learn. You must learn the different between scratch mirror myers, a tombstone Myers and a regular tier 3 (that just one character)

    A brand new killer can just stick with one character and master it.

    A brand new survivor must learn every killer power and the counterplay to it.