Knight change suggestions after 13 prestiges worth of games
i've been playing knight for quite a while already, managing to reach prestige 13 with him and i'd like to share some suggestions for his changes
quick overview of his guards and flag bonuses
carnifex
hunt movement speed = 4.1m/s
patrol movement speed = 3.4m/s
patrol vision radius = 8 meters
patrol duration = 12 seconds
hunt duration = 24 seconds
time for flag to become active = 10 seconds
assasin
hunt movement speed = 4.4m/s
patrol movement speed = 3.4m/s
patrol vision radius = 8 meters
patrol duration = 24 seconds
hunt duration = 12 seconds
time for flag to become active = 5 seconds
jailer
hunt movement speed = 4.1m/s
patrol movement speed = 4.1m/s
patrol vision radius = 14 meters
patrol duration = 24 seconds
hunt duration = 12 seconds
time for flag to become active = 10 seconds
flag
movement speed bonus = 50%
movement speed bonus duration = 3 seconds
endurance duration = 3 seconds
suggestions:
1. increase the guard patrol vision range
guards by default have an extremely tiny patrol vision range(except jailer), the default vision radius is barely enough to be able to trigger hunts when you spawn a guard on top of a survivor, with the default range the survivor can easliy outrun the radius most of the time which is why map of the realms is a must have addon on him
suggestion:
increase all guard patrol vision range by 4 meters
map of the realms - decreased to 1 meter
2. patrol visibility
guards are way too easy to dodge when they are patrolling, their visible patrol radius and sound effects are a dead giveaway of whether they are still patrolling or their patrol time has ended
suggestion:
the patrol radius is no longer visible to survivors and the sound effect can only be heard when inside the patrol radius
this change will make survivors be careful of their surroundings so they wont have to face a guard
3. patrol duration
the patrol duration is way too short by default to be used for anything "strategic" like defending generators, totems etc. with a guard
suggestion:
increase all patrol durations by 6 seconds
tattered tabard - decreased to 2 seconds
4. recall ability
with the increased patrol durations, it might be possible you might miss a guard summon on a survivor or use a guard in the wrong place and you will lose the ability to use a guard for a very long time
suggestion:
add a recall ability that allows the knight to immediately stop an ongoing guard patrol, becomes activateable when 6 seconds have elapsed after a guard had been summoned, the cooldown for the power is increased by 2 seconds when recalled that way
the ability to stop an ongoing guard patrol with a lunge attack is kept, but has no increased power cooldown and the lunge attack also no longer has a penalty for hitting a guard
5. hunt
hunt by default is way too weak by default, if a survivor gets hunted while the knight player wasn't near them, the guard wont make any impact besides to be a 12/24 second nuisance that can be made even shorter by the flag
their slow movement speed and short duration are the problem
suggestion:
insrease the hunt duration for jailer and assasin by 4 seconds
insrease the hunt duration for carnifex by 2 seconds
increase hunt movement speed for jailer and carnifex to 4.3m/s and increase assaisin's hunt movement speed to 4.5m/s
this will make guards much more threatening to survivors who are not being actively chased by the knight and make it more harder for survivors to escape guards
dried horsemeat - now increases the time for flag to become active by 2 seconds
6. guard hits ignore endurance
while this may be a bit too much, but the knight gets absolutely destroyed by dead hard(and other endurance effects that can be triggered by survivor's own demand), the guards are an easy way to trigger the endurance speed boost that basically renders them a free speed boost for the survivor (the same could be said about nemesis' zombies, but I believe they should also have the endurance bypass and the anti tunnel counter that is mentioned below)
this might encourage tunneling off hook though, especially with the guard hunt buffs, so I propose a 30 second invulnerability to guard detection and damage after getting unhooked that is cancelled if the survivor performs a conspicious action
7. order: generator break
ordering a guard to damage a generator feels useless most of the time, the only time when it has use, is when a generator is nearing completion and you can interrupt the repair with order (which prevents the survivors repairing the generator for the order duration)
ordering to damage a generator also doesn't deal the 2.5% penalty similar to how damaging a generator as the killer and it doesn't apply generator perks
suggestion
assasin and jailer's order on generators now applies an instant 5% progress regression and a 150% regression rate to the damaged generator
carnifex's order applies an instant 10% progress regression and a 150% regression rate to the damaged generator
8. flag bonuses removed
it makes no sense that a killer power should buff up a survivor(while this could be said about the clown's antidote buff too, it atleast makes some kind of sense since the clown can buff him self up too, still dumb though), the flag bonuses are a free sprint burst without exhaustion and even if you do manage to get close to the survivor before they get to the flag, you get endurance aswell, imagine if dredge has the same thing with his remnant
suggestion: remove the flag bonuses and keep the effect of the guard disappearing
9. addons
some certain addons need adjustments, the ones mentioned above are included
town watch's torch
activating this addon is pretty hard to activate, if you are a good knight, you will be getting hits a lot of with guards and doing so that the hit wont happen 3 times takes a bunch of time to pull off, additionaly, knight is very loud
suggestion:
now applies undetectable for the duration of a summoned guard's patrol, also applies a 15 second undetectable if the survivor escapes a hunt
ironworker's tongs
this addon could be made more unique if it applied the oblivious during the guard hunt and had it's duration increased
oblivious effect is now applied to the survivor for the duration of a guard's hunt, the oblivious effect persists for 30 seconds after the guard hunt ends
grim iron mask
same as ironworker's tongs change, the blindness is now applied during the hunt and the 60 second blindness applied after the hunt ends
suggestion:
applies blindness to the survivor during a guard hunt, blindness persists for 60 seconds after the guard hunt ends
chain mail fragment and broken hilt
it's weird the haemorrhage and mangled are not combined in the same addon, wraith's blind warrior - mud has both effects and is extremely easy to activate while getting a hit with a guard should be split up in two addons? broken hilt also can have a more unique effect
chain mail fragment
suggestion:
now applies both haemorrhage and mangled on a guard hit
broken hilt
suggestion:
now reveals any survivor's aura within 16 meters of an object that order was used on for 4 seconds
flint and steel
ever since the ptb nerf(which was deserved) it became a pretty useless addon, not getting rid of pallets just to have survivors revealed to you sometimes is just not worth it and reverting it will give you free constant wall hacks
suggestion:
while the carnifex is summmoned, knight gets a 30% speed boost to pallet breaking and damaging generators
blacksmith's hammer
the effect only gets activated if the guard escapes the guard hunt(this means it cant get activated if the survivor gets hit during the guard hunt by any means), most of the time the hunt will end up with you hitting the survivor, unless the survivor was far away and by the time you get there the effects will most likely have expired
suggestion:
both effects are now applied for the duration of a hunt, if the hunt ends with the survivor escaping without getting hit, the effects persist for 15 seconds
knight's contract
the addon is pretty powerful in my opinion, but it's pretty tough for me to keep track of which guard is the forth one, i'd suggest a change that would give it a ui effect similar to bfs addon for legion
suggestion:
the addon ui icon now displays which guard is first, second, third and fourth in rotation for the addon similar to how bfs addon for legion tracks it's tokens with the ui icon
and that's it, while i think some of these changes may be a bit too much(i especially think that way about the "guards bypass endurance" changes), the rest should be healthy changes that make him less reliant on addons, have less dumb unfair stuff like the flag bonuses, better addons etc. but again, that's my opinion
post your knight change suggestions and discuss and the ones i've suggested in this thread
Comments
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the idea of the buffed up hunt if the survivor gets detected outside a certain range of the knight is good, but i believe it should only buff up the movement speed and flag activation time and have the hunt duration be increased at all times
the endurance change i suggested is quite dumb now that im thinking about it, i wrote this suggestion list quite a while ago and kept forgeting to post it
for the hunt start process change, i suppose you want to change it from the "fly to the spot where the survivor was detected in" to "fly after the survivor's position for 2 seconds then start chasing' after a 0,5 second delay"
if so, i like this change, but the delay is way too short in my opinion, with that change in mind, the guard will be really close to the survivor
the delay would be more fair if it was 0,5 seconds if the knight was 24 meters away and 1 second or 1,5 seconds if the knight was within 24 meters
the send guards for order is interesting, but if there are problems with the ai pathing, it'll be rendered useless or extremely risky, so i think it's best to not do that for now
good suggestions overall
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Some of these ideas are terrible. Pocket COB+Pop at range that can be used with very little cooldown on gens that are very far away is an atrocious idea. Knight is already very powerful at holding 3 gens.
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